December 2012 Babies Half a year already and still kind of sane.

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If you work out why Stacks let me know. Last month J self settled every night. Tonight I fed/rocked him to sleep 6 times and he just kept waking up and wailing as soon as I put him down.

DP has worked 12 hour shifts all week, plus 8.5 today. We had to go to his DMs for tea as it's the delightful GMiL's birthday. So he's got drunk and gone to bed at 9:30. Awesome, guess I'm making the bottles. I'll be taking the lie in tomorrow though!

GMiL was on top form, how she doesn't get the message is beyond me. I bit her head off every time she made yet another comment about feeding. Apparently I need to get him on solids immediately and should switch him to toddler milk now he's 5.5 months. In other news she drank a full bottle of white wine and fell off her chair Jamie was not handed over to her.

WillYou! GMIL strikes again. What exactly is toddler milk? Is that like follow on milk?

Sorry WillYou I know it's tiring for you but I love your stories!

Dp just keeps repeating 'but you know I'm rubbish at these things what can I do?' Blah blah blah then runs through all the things we can't do because we can't afford it!

Yeah ski she said I should move him onto stage 2 milk she's a dick I told DP that I would introduce her to jack Johnson and Tom o'leary

Spotty I agree with whoever said give him a a list of suggestions and tell him to surprise you on the day. I know it's not quite the same but it seems like the beat you're going to get. I'm not a fan of surprises control freak though so it may be different for me.

willyou all I can say is wow!!

spotty my birthday is coming up and I've asked dh that I want my present to be an afternoon away from the kids just us out for a meal in London. Icing on the cake would be if it's sunny and we could sit out in a terrace. Feel guilty saying that what I want is time away from the kids but it's been so long since we had just us time to do something that we would have done on an ordinary weekend before having kids and moving out of the m25!

Anyone see the Sma advert whilst watching bgt? All so true from the oh no you've done a poo just as we're all ready and about to go out the door to the last bit of her on the sofa feeding whilst looking shattered!

10:30,2,6 not too bad. He might go back down now....

I've got a friend who lives in another country. She's just come back to have her baby, due in three weeks but is flying back in six weeks. Is this a bit mad? What if she's two weeks over and has a CS? Obviously I won't say anything to her and hope she has a lovely sneeze birth on her due date! How long goes a new baby passport take? I wouldn't have wanted a 12 hour flight with a 1/2/3 week old...

We had 11, 2, 5.30 and he's asleep again, I'm eating porridge ready for my run at 7

spotty I think you can get a passport in a day but it costs ££££ and you have to go to London. Obv you have to have a birth certificate. Tbh at that small I'd have been fine, I'd find it harder now DS is more of a pita alert!

I think the baby will be easy I'm more thinking about her, I couldn't sit down for two weeks after having dd

Ds has gone back to sleep but I obviously can't good for you going running!

Hmm I remember being uncomfy after dd but not too bad. Fx that everything goes smoothly for your friend and she can get back home

That's Sod's law spotty, and the running yes, I got harassed into a running club but tbh it's great. And as I can't diet (reduces my supply) I can exercise at least to try and get rid of some of this baby weight!

We have a swimming party later. Ds2s first time in a pool! I can't wait, he's going to love it!

Isthattrue in awe of you going running after a sleepless night! We've only had a couple of wake ups and all I fancy is a cup of tea & sofa/bed. Not sure i could summon the energy for a run at the moment! Dd up for the day but amazingly ds still in bed so sofa it is for a snuggle.

spotty I think that's a bit mad! But is it her first? She may just not now quite what a bombshell having a baby can be. I had a traumatic birth with ds and couldn't sit for well over a month. Physically & mentally was a totally mess- def couldn't have handled a long flight. But with dd which was an elective section think could have maybe 2 weeks later. Had bad baby blues again but was more prepared for it and physically stronger. That's the problem with birth it's so unpredictable!! but is there a reason she's so keen to get back quickly? Ie is all her support network over there & she's just come back as safer to have baby here? Maybe if someone was going to fly with her to help her it would make a difference.

IsThat a pool party sounds like fun!

Ddas same here, forceps/episiotomy etc we were shell shocked for weeks! Also a friend of mine just went 17 days overdue

Her family are all here but her partners are in the Caribbean (jealous? Me? Never!) she said we can stay whenever we like but the flights are so expensive!

& like you said what if she has a section she would be able to lift much & seats if she's in economy may get quite uncomfortable! Also increased risk of blood clots post partum esp with sections so she'll have to do lots of moving around. Think some airlines may have limits on earliest a baby can travel for safety of them & mother. Plus has she thought although fingers crossed all is well with baby that sometimes it's not & she could end up having to be in hospital longer. Even common things like weight loss, jaundice etc wil delay her. 10 days post delivery we were back in hospital with dd for jaundice & weight loss. Also some things with babies don't become apparent for a couple of weeks so that would also make me cautious about flying.
Wow sorry for the length of that!!

Yep! I know some people breeze through those first few weeks I just keep remembering how awful I felt. Ds is still asleep, typical!

Admiringly jealous of the run isthat. I'd love to do some proper exercise but just too knackered.
willyou gmil keeps us entertained even if she's a nightmare for you!
spotty that's exactly the way I would have behaved pre dd1 - also nightmare birth etc. I would gently try to get her to think about contingencies for if she can't fly for any of the reasons above but fx it all goes to plan for her.

We had another terrible night with a dream feed at 10.30 then wakes at 11,12.45,2,3.30 and up at 6 something.
I'm afraid she's got tonight to redeem herself or its back to tough love plan. I really don't want to but this just can't go on.

WL was she in her own room still last night or back in with you and DH? Could it be she prefers the quiet in her own room? Because she was better in there wasn't she?!

Run went well, only doing 30 mins atm 5min warm up 4min run,1min walk x 4 then 5 min cool down. But that up from 2 run and 1 walk last tues. so by next weekend I'm hoping to be up to 6 and 1 and be going for 45 mins. It's actually giving me more energy tbh, it helps running with others though as you have the extra motivation of somebody waiting for you.

Sorry I'm not keep

Sorry bad mumsnetter - I'm not keeping up at the min. But need to ask some advice. I'm probably overreacting and should just be enjoying this but D has been sleeping A LOT the past week - a 2 hour nap in the afternoon plus at least 2 other half-1 and a half hour naps. He's also been sleeping more at night- last night he went from 7-10.30 then 10.45-5.30 which is totally unheard of for him. I should prob just enjoy the sleep but it is very unlike him. Probably totally unrelated he's also stated shuddering a lot -he's normally happy when it happens but I'm worrying.

Dash is a bit older than the rest of the babies so probably more established on solids so may be why his sleep is improving. With ds found the initial weaning made his sleep go all over the place but once established for a while on 3 meals his sleep got a lot better. With the shuddering if you're worried about it I'd take a video of it next time he does it to show to your gp- especially with the fact that he was prem I'm sure they'd be more than happy to see you even if it is just to reassure.

I'd definitely go and get it checked out Honey. Ddas' idea of videoing it is really good.

Just a thought honey - a friend of mine recently mentioned that her daughter started shuddering when weeing. Could it be that? I second the video thing; you could also have some nappy off time and see whether it is to do with passing urine.

Also - enjoy the sleep!

Thanks all. Gonna call gp tomorrow and get it checked out.

My little brother always used to shudder when he weed it was more like a shiver though? Not sure. I wouldn't be worried about the sleep though

I've got so much to do but ds has been asleep on me for two hours

Have fun at the pool IsThat!

Honey my DS shudders sometimes. I freaked out when he did it in hospital when he was first born. The nurse said not to worry about it but if it happens a lot it can be a sign of low blood sugar.

Is anyone doing BLW? I've tried DS on some finger food and some purées. He seems v unimpressed by the purées but I can't stop myself from panicking every time a chunk of food breaks off in his mouth, even if it is fairly soft. Maybe my nerves just aren't cut out for it and I should try again once he's got a bit more to grips with eating.

We have been mainly doing purees and giving The Little Mister some finger food when we are eating. I am just about getting over my fear that he is going to choke himself!

I have found the Organix biscuits or rice cakes quite good to distract him with. He seems to suck on them until they fall apart but he doesn't gag on them at all.

Shuddering/shivering when/after weeing is really common in los, I was told its due to drop in temp when the nice warm wee is gone!
Interesting isthat she was a bit better in her own room (with me on the floor!) but still not great. I think she was up tons when she was poorly she's got a bit mixed up and doesn't seem to drink much in the day so makes up for it at night. I think I need to give her a nudge in the right direction so think ill go with a dream feed then refuse to feed for 3 hours etc. starts tomorrow night back in room with me on the floor.