November 2012 - Lots of mummies going back to work

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1761048-November-2012-Weaning-is-messy-fun-what-does-your-baby-eat

Yay. In one week I'll be waking up at my mum's house. I so hope the weather is ok - everything on ly list of things to do involves the great outdoors.

GT I agree with PR drinking that much isn't good - its going to be a nightmare if he doesn't change his ways when DS2 shows up, and he doesn't seem to have changed for DS1.....

MM A WHOLE LAMB'S LEG!!!!! That is literally taking food off of you and Tilly's plates for himself. Basically he couldn't be much clearer that he thinks he is most important and his needs come first (duvets, food, sleep, toys) I'd have made him make tea given he 'stole' everybody's tea and ate it himself. He'll be apologetic in a few days but repeat within weeks....

fucksticks I just lost my reply. fuck cunt and wank.

Izzy think &YW* gave some good advice. If, like me, being assertive with authority doesnt come easily, then channel YW and be quiet and firm.

GT it does sound like your DH drinks quite a lot.

MM How the hell would he eat a whole chuffing lamb's leg for lunch at work?

pidj love the family gown, what a lovely family heirloom that your LO will get to use.

pass Am also amazed at how little milk some are having. DS is the same as P about milk consumption, although different with food.

He used to have 6 x 8oz bottles in a 24 hour period, so has always been a hungry baby - bf constantly when I was feeding him myself, and when I moved to formula, always eating more than the packet suggests. He follows the 50th centile, so I think he just needs more.

He is now offered 5 x 8oz bottles, approx 3 hours apart, plus 3 meals. He probably leaves 8oz cumulatively over the day, so I reckon I could probably drop one of the milk feeds, or significantly reduce what is offered. But I dont know which to do.

This is his feeding schedule:
6am - 8oz bottle (always drains)
7am - weetabix or porridge, toast
9am - 8oz bottle (may leave a couple of ounces)
11.45am - meat/veg/fruit. Always desperate for lunch so makes me think he does need milk between breakfast and lunch.
12.30pm - 8oz bottle. Usually leaves a couple of ounces and falls asleep on bottle.
3pm - 8oz bottle. This is probably the one he is most likely to not finish.
5.15pm - meat/veg/yoghurt
6.15pm - last 8oz bottle. Usually drains.

Maybe I'll half the 9am and 3pm feeds. But then yesterday, he only left 3oz all day. So drank 37oz plus three decent sized meals. This does seem a lot.

That's interesting madam. P's volume has changed wildly over the last three weeks so it is really hard to know where her normal is. Before she went on omeprazole she was offered 5 bottles between 6:30 - 6:30 and would take between 21-25oz per day. Within 24 hours of being on omeprazole she went up to 31oz in a day. The last few days she has been struggling again and yesterday took 24oz. She had a few baby spoonfuls of cereal at breakfast (maybe 4), sooked on some melon at lunch (courtesy of mm) and maybe the equivalent of 1.5 cubes of butternut squash at tea time.

I suspect her reduced amounts are reflux related rather than solids. She is still so reluctant to eat anything other than things she can hold herself that I cannot believe it would have more than a cursory impact on her volume.

I bought some xanthar gum yesterday to use as a binding agent so I can bread fish and chicken for her.

QQ does anyone else's baby shudder a fair amount? The house is 23oC so I can't think it is cold.

Re the lamb: "It wasn't a waste, I have some. left for today" Grr

I also caught him reading our fred in the middle of the night. MrMummy buy your own fricking tablet and get your own quiche.

Today I will mostly be putting stuff on eBay after splashing out on a third possible dress for our grad ball in July. I thunk this one is my favourite. Bloody better be flab friendly as I am not spending a penny more on dresses!!

One of the things I wrote alot about was milk consumption and solids lol.

e currently is offered 5 x 8oz but one of those is a df. Since having decent amounts of solids he takes 32-36 rather than 36-40. I am going to drop the dream feed either completely or gradually and offer 32oz which should be plenty alongside the amount he eats. I am assuming if he is offered 32oz he will up his solids which I think is what he should be doing. I do feel a bit mean for stopping the df but if he is hungry he will wake ne surely? If he wants more I think I will try to squidge the bottles into his 7-7 day rather than keep up the effing df.

pass I think as long as p is taking over 20oz and offered food she will work stuff out. 1.5 cubes is good going, and she had a go all three times which is fab :) I too am going to do some breaded chicken and fish soon as I am aware he doesn't have alot in terms of meat/protein.

I am finding it odd to not worry when he drinks less but he can't drink milk forever and upping solids and reducing milk is what happens, I guess!

mm feed him leg of lamb for weeks :p that'll put him off nicking it in future I bet!

you do not have flab to hide, you have a few more (and all in the right places!) womanly curves from your baby making. I remember as well feeling like that at your age (without having a baby) it is when you lose any last vestiges of girlish skinniness and start carrying weight in different places - in my case the tops of my arms, my chin/s, and saddlebags (naice!).... I look like a misshapen sausage

As for reading the quiche - its like reading a diary - DHs shouldn't be upset if, when acting like prime arseholes, they are described as such. Do you hear MrMM stop consistently treating MM badly, you reckon if you treat her badly for so long, eventually she won't believe she's worth any better and she'll quietly put up with your nonsense with the result that you don't have to try to be a decent partner as its too much hard work.... but we're onto you! It's hard to isolate someone thanks to social media - thank goodness. You don't know a good thing when you have it Mr

Pass, they shudder when they wee.

GT I am amazed you have your own home. I thought you were living with MIL because you had no other option. You clearly have. I encourage you to take it, and if DH refuses, then let him stay at his Mummy's house.

Lily I am so glad little O seems better, and is sleeping. If you want a little package of English food sent, just PM me

The Aldi baby event is on if anyone is interested.

J had a better night with his cot tipped so he is almost standing up. I had a shit night again due to every other fucker loved one waking me up at regular intervals.

Izzy I understand where you are coming from, especially with your history (((hug))) When I was talking to the doctor I half expected the men on white coats to come in and drag me away as J was sitting on my lap smiling in all his glorious fatness. Also your J is not in obvious pain. I do I courage you to ask for Gaviscon and ranitadine if only to 'humour you'. And as to the minister, surely he should be the person who is going to be least annoyed at being postponed.

MrMM I am resisting the urge to say what I think. I will settle for a 'hear hear' for what YW just said.

I should stress - having reread my recent posts that I am not the quiche's resident misandryist doctor beater.... I do admit to having the tact / patience of a rottweiler when pressed.

Thirding that YW. We will kick ass if required. .

O slept through. Not got CMPI my fucking ASS.

He's so happy and smiley this morning. He's a funny little thing. He also managed a small forwards crawl for my phone!.

He's nommed his porridge (fresh this time - he preferred it non frozen fussy monkey!) and is now going for a nap. :)

Loving the sun - hope we all are!

VQ thanks for the Aldi tip. Might have a look later.

My slimming world breakfast this morning is consisting of bacon, fried eggs, mushrooms and tomatoes. Plus toast. I like this! .

DP is going to get more than sharpened lego bricks shoved up his ass today. O woke up at 8.20, just as I was getting DS1 ready to leave the house. Woke DP up and made him get up as I was walking out the door he finally made it down the stairs. It is as if he is on another planet today. When I got home O was still in his nappy from the night, not given his ranitidine, or his breakfast - all of which he had time to do while I was out. He also lied about the nappy - I caught him out and asked why he lied - he doesn't know . Then everything I have told him today he has asked me again 5 minutes later, as if we haven't even had the conversation.

I asked him to get O's ranitidine while I was making porridge. 5 minutes later he hadn't come in to the kitchen. I walked in to the living room and he's sat playing games on his laptop. I wanted to throw the fucking thing out the window there and then FFS. If you have forgotten to do something important, you do it as soon as reminded, yeah? Or AIBU??

PR I have the same problem. If you fix it, let me know. :(

Ok I popped to drs surgery after taking DD to nursery. Receptionist was lovely. I explained that the dr had tried to call me but as I felt he was getting worse that I really needed an appointment. She offere me one about half an hour after minister is due to arrive but when I explained she has given me one at 5.10pm which is prefect. MIL is going to collect DD from nursery and keep her so I can go along with just J. Im hoping we get on ok.

meals I PMd you re Gaviscon.

J had yet another not great night. Although he has cut out one wakening where he wants fed so He fed at 9.25pm then 12.15am then 3.15 and then not til 8am. I was however required for two hand holdings as well. One at 2.10am and the other around 5/6. Better than we've had before though.

I wish you could come to GP with me yw. I'm so going to leave empty handed :(

Agree with YW. MrMm1 the quiche is not amused.

Damn cat/cleaning lady didn't turn up as promised this morning. Does no-one want easy cash in hand work? Wtf is wrong with people? Why put ads up in local shops advertising your cleaning/ animal sitting services if you are't going to turn up when you say you will? I just don't understand.

She was going to get a LOT of work from me as of September when I rtw.

I'm nice and completely undemanding. This is so unfair.

Izzy you CAN DO IT! Awesome Mummy for getting the appt - you only have to be assertive for five mins. Just keep repeating politely - I'm sorry, but as silly as it may sound it feels as though I'm being fobbed off. We've been fobbed off for seven months of pain and poor sleep and now its affecting his weaning - humour me let him try gaviscon / ranitidine'. Write down his symptoms and what you want to say and read it out loud if it helps. Also if you're not v confident and hate feeling like a paranoid Mum just go in there and pretend you're an awkward gobshite (pretend you're me!). It's just five minutes. You have to be assertive for only a teeny amount of time but equally don't lose your chance. Be direct and calm - YOU CAN DO IT xxxx

Izzy feel the power of the quiche behind you

GT did you once say that it was a cultural thing - that it is expected you live with your inlaws? Apologies if I have phrased that badly. Is there no way you can all move as VQ says? Might be better, especially if it is still reasonably local to parents/inlaws?

Izzy feel the power of the quiche. I must admit to being all fired up the last time I took DS to the doctor with his awful chest infection, I was totally ready to do battle, but the nice GP agreed with me and gave me antibiotics immediately. was so fired up that had he said no, I may have been the lunctic demanding antibiotics regardless of viral/bacterial distinctions but I wanted some drugs for the boy!

PR I dont understand people either. And it is fucking rude not to keep an appointment (valid reasons and emergencies excepted).

MrMummy the quiche has been very restrained in comments so far. I suggest you buck your ideas up.

detective my DH tells white lies like that. Does my fucking head in. Actual rage. He's also far less clever than he thinks he. Drives me fucking demented. I trust him with the big stuff, but anything where he gets caught out doing something he is not supposed to / not having done something he was supposed to, his natural instinct is to lie his way out of trouble. It is such instinctive, ingrained behaviour. Twat.

pass that is all without any refluxy/intolerance complications, so to be seen in that light, if that makes sense. Again, those of you dealing with extra issues are amazing.

kyz seems sensible about the dream feed. If he is really hungry and needs it, he will wake. I guess you could reduce the amount offered until he's only getting around 3-4 oz before stopping if you dont want to go completely cold turkey?

Thanks everyone. I will update after we come back. I'm now waiting in house panicking about this bloody minister's visit!

Been to slimming world this morning and stayed the dame. Have bought twelve week pass which I'll get a free book with next week, bought a book with 100 breakfast, lunch and dinner ideas. Bought the new magazine and am committed. If I can lose two lbs a week I'll have almost two stone off by my holiday!

Bit late on the matter, but izzy christenings and occasions have some lovely outfits, I ordered Sinead's baptism dress from there the other day, they are very reasonably priced as well.

Although saying that, I obviously only looked at the girls stuff!

GT apologies if my earlier post caused offence. I was forgetting that you had mentioned that it was traditional for young couples to live with inlaws. I still feel that it is worth giving serious consideration, as a lot of your posts imply you are not happy living there. It would also force your DH to grow up a bit.

Fucking sports day. Great. Wish I had known earlier. Fuck. Must remember to limp so I can avoid the parent races, although having a small baby with me should mean I am exempt. Doesn't work at nursery though, neither did being pregnant!