November 2012 - When are they going to sleep through again?

[StuntNun]

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Lily I can only assume Socila Services want to meet with you because you are a lone parent of a small baby from another country. I know nothing of Hungarian Social Services but I guess it could look potentially worrying to anyone not knowing your circumstances, especially relating to the birth certificate. There are not many new mums brave enough to do what you are doing, and thankfully very few who have suffered a loss like you. I think of you each day as I know your anniversary is approaching. Please feel you can share anything on here or FB x

Wow thanks for all the advice!

Would prefer to keep her rear facing as long as poss. I personally wouldnt ever compromise on safety so would be buying brand new and dont mind spending a bit more if necessary. DP hates halfords but there is a great little pram shop type place near us that are happy for us to try out carseats in the car so will try there. They also pricematch .

Social! Fucking phone

XP is £99 in black from Halfords, for the non-isofix. The Axiss is available on the web from £170 but is £225 in Halfords.

Afternoon all. Ugh.

I tried to write a post last night but for the first time in months ds would not go to bed. He didnt go to sleep until after 10:30. I worried he wouldn't settle but he did. Tonight better not be a repeat the little toad.

hope you all have a good day today :)

Well, it went from bad to worse last night. DP fed him just before 2, and he refused to go back to sleep. DP said he was taking O downstairs, and I was to sleep.

I had my reservations, given DP doesn't wake. But figured I'd hear him anyway, I usually do.

So this morning, DP tells me he never went to sleep :( O kept waking every 10-15 minutes all night long til 6 when DP gave up and got him up.

O was in the pram - so the place where he sleeps the best.

He then slept solidly this morning from 8.45-11.40 after screaming the house down prior to falling asleep.

What the fuck is going on?

I have to admit, in desperation, we tried pick up put down again the other night. Yeah. That child is strong willed. He does not give up. He cried for 3 hours and I cried for about 2 of them too. If we ever tried 'controlled crying' it would be anything but controlled, because he just doesn't stop. Ever. The 3 hours only ended because I stopped it, not because he stopped.

DP is now in bed, he finally came to bed when O went to sleep this morning. :(

We can't go on like this. :(

Detective so sorry to hear that. Do take him to the doctor, if only to rule out a medical problem. Get a prescription for Nutrimigen and see if that helps. Is he eating ok? Is he in pain? Re-read symptoms of reflux and see how he scores. Perhaps it is the regression only and you have a mighty strong willed boy.

J has been asleep since 10. He has only kept down 3 oz so far today. Hopefully the sleep is healing. His breathing sounds better today, but he is vomiting on a hair trigger. He had 5 oz at 8 and brought them back at 9 when I was slowly giving PCM. He would have got a lot of goodness in that hour but I was amazed so much was still in his tum. I thought it was absorbed very quickly.

I think J has bronchiolitis again. It is following exactly the same pattern. Hoping he improves today. If not he will be at dr sooner rather than later this week.

His reflux seems no worse without the ranitidine so it was clearly doing fuck all for him.

Detective like you I feel so alone dealing with this. I feel the only support I get is here, which is great, but I need someone in RL to be giving a toss. I am going to see the dietician and GP this week and push for urgent paediatrician appointment. I am due back at work in 7 weeks and if things do not improve soon, I will be off sick with stress and anxiety. I am so fucked off with the lack of care.

Plan is GP on monday, demand Nutrimigen AA. Still keeping to no solids.

I'm also going to ring work and speak to cons. secretary and see if I can at least speak to cons. over the phone if I can't get an appt for this week.

He's feeding fine. Back up to 6 feeds of 5-7oz. Taking probably 35oz a day. Symptom wise, he seems okay? I mean right now he's rolling around on the carpet, not playing with toys, but just rolling about touching things and the dog. He's not doing large vomits, just small possets. He's not unhappy for no reason when put down on the floor. He's not refusing feeds.

I'm at a loss really.

If I ditched the swaddle, he wouldn't actually go to sleep in the first place. So I wouldn't even try and get rid right now. I've got one with poppers on the arms, so when he is I am ready we can transition one arm out easily.

Yes yes yes to everything you said.

I feel so alone. I just keep crying. Not leaving the house.

If I didn't know myself, I'd say I was depressed. But I am not! I am angry that my baby is suffering and I can not help him. And no one else is helping other than the quiche!.

I might start a thread asking for help. I'm guessing a lot of people have/are going through this, and it might get me some more ideas??

If I hadn't known him sleep far better than this, I'd be assuming he was just a terrible sleeper. But at 8 weeks he was at least doing 9-4 generally, definitely skipping a night feed most nights. Then reflux arrived and things went shit again. Sleep improved when he was refusing feeds funnily enough. Anyway, then it went shit again when the 4 month sleep shittyregression hit. He slept through once from 8-7.30 at 16 weeks, and that was it til around 19 weeks when he started sleeping longer again, and was doing 7.30 til between 5-7am. Then at 23 weeks it all goes tits up again.

I've never known this level of waking up though - the being awake in the night. He's never ever done that before. He would wake, and feed or be settled with in 10-15 minutes. It's taking hours. And 20 wake ups plus just isn't normal either! Until about 16 weeks once he was asleep for the night, he did not wake at all until he was ready for a feed. Ever. Even if that feed was 1am, he woke just for feeds.

Now he just wakes repeatedly from going to bed, all night long.

And some nights he doesn't even want a feed. So WTF is it all about?!

So sorry you're having such a shit time detective I wish I had something useful to say but I don't except hugs and things :(

Really hope it isn't bronchiolitis again vq :( poor little lad

Avocado is my favourite weaning food. Not too strong, full of yumminess and goodness, and zero prep.

stunt I'm surprised the paed didn't notice in her 6 monthly check up on Thursday. MIL does munch by prox so never sure whether to worry or not. She always has something to say about things being wrong with the children. Next appointment in a couple of months...

Detective try and concentrate on the positives. He is well and happy, not in pain or discomfort, he is developing really splendidly, indeed he is quite advanced. But he was overdue which may make him so.

Might be an idea to ask for a pee test to rule out UTI as they can manifest strangely.

I know I keep harping on about the swaddle, but could it be that the swaddle is preventing him from self settling? How about trying one night without? Or try one arm out?

Swapping formula would not hurt. May help. May help initially only for a while. Can upset tum though as you know.

I can see the GP not wanting to change things prior to Paeds assessment.

detective

vq you know how I feel about bronchiofuckinglitis. Fingers crossed, but he is much stronger this time. Much better to get him checked for peace of mind.

I've popped the photo which provoked the squint comments on fb.

We've had nights with out swaddle due to voms. They were the worst nights ever. He also has been self settling since we got a new swaddle. The first few cries last night he self settled. But not many times. But better than he was managing before.

Sorry, was quick post as was eating finally.

I know I should be grateful, but sleep deprivation is pure torture. It is impossible to enjoy anything at the moment. Literally, all the joy has gone out of everything. DP feeling the same too :(

Everytime I post on here I end up crying. Need to get a bloody grip!

In this new swaddle he can get his hands to his mouth with the swaddle still in place, so I think he is more able to self settle.

Will do the pee sample.

GP can fuck off. I'll take him to A&E again if they piss me around. I'm not having it that this is normal. It can't be! I'm getting it sorted tomorrow, no matter what! DS1 is at his dads tomorrow night, so there is nothing to worry about other than O. We will get somewhere.

Just spoke to DS1 about him sleeping in with me tonight, and DP on sofa, and O in DS1's room. It's got to be worth a shot. I think once he wakes in the night his sleep is buggered from then on. That is how it appears anyway. DS1 decided he is going to sleep on O's floor. There is about a 70cm gap between cot and wardrobe. It will be interesting!

DS1 could have stayed in his room, but when he turns over, his bed make a noise!

Hello. I am here. Thanks for noticing kirrin.

Still ridiculous nights here. I can't see them improving at all.

On the weaning front j is tolerating a small amount of baby rice. Today I tried a little banana, baby rice and BM and he did not too badly. Wondering when I can introduce a second 'meal'? I have my hopes pinned on him sleeping a million times better when he is eating solids reliably.

I NEED more sleep!!!

Sounds like a good plan detective and an awesome positive attitude :)

Detective massive massive hugs. Post here as often as you need. Tears are better out than in.

Quiet today clearly people have a life unlike me.

J threw up again. He has kept 8 oz down now but seems happy enough. He has had another long nap.

DH took the girls out for the morning which has helped as I am on a very short fuse.

VQ ducking bronchfuckinglis can fuck right off. Big hugs to both of you.

Det I have no words of wisdom just lots of love.

Wondering how catbag is as thought of her when planning ikea tomorrow.

Huge hugs to all, I survived the weekend and very glad I don't have to do weekends without my boy again for a long time.

He and I just had a nap in bed together and he's now chilling in his swing that daddy built him in garden while vvvdp cleans the BBQ. I love my little team.

No life here VQ just too stressed to post.

We have a first tooth. Wasn't there on Thursday. Explains grouchiness. I was only saying on here last week that I thought we had a few more weeks before that all started. Oh well.