November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

It's not CIO if you stay with them, right?

for Chasing

Luis let me know when J fancies another adventure on a big boat

Thanks YW, I was too tired for musing. But Ted managed through till 6, so only one nighttime wake up. Happy with that. Although bedtime was an hour later than usual. Hmm...

Sorry to read of shit sleep.

Chasing v jealous of your trip to the hairdressers!

Dixie I am so knackered I sent dp to deal with M in the middle of the night. He is working a 12hr shift offshore today but I ended up in tears in the middle of the night at the thought of having to get up

We are surviving our visit. SIL has been lovely actually and (mostly) keeping her opinions to herself. I have been biting my lip with the brat a lot but she is manageable.

I am feeling so run down though. I am never ill but I am on the verge of making a docs appointment. I am tired all the time - properly knackered much worse than when M was sleepdodging. (hence the tears during her one and only waking at 3am) Everything aches and I feel really sicky all of the time. I am also covered in bruises that I have no idea how I got except the one on my leg where I walked into his bastard dive cylinder

*visitors

How long have you been feeling like that mm? Does sound like a docs appt might be in order.

On the nestle/hip/Ella theme we have an ongoing battle in our house!

As you probably know my DH likes to be stocked up for extreme weather conditions. So he has bought a load of hip jars. And I mean a load.

I am not against them and am happy for them to be used when out and about or if I've really struggled to cook. But in the main all of my children have been weaned on home cooking.

I have also noticed if there has been a day when he has had three meals of pre prepared variety he wakes up in the night as they have a high water content and not as much bulk as home cooking would have.

So he's out buying jars while I am frantically cooking and filling the freezer.

You can imagine the scene!

(Granted when we move to NI we really are rural so I will have to stock up a bit as being stuck is a reality)

MM best get to a GP. There is a clotting disorder that would resent like that. My DD had that. It could also be other things, but could be nothing also. Best get an appointment ASAP. Not OOH but earliest available at GP. They may want to take bloods. DD is fine btw and just needed monitoring with blood tests. Hope you feel better soon.

J slept until 6

mm sounds like it's all caught up with you physically. Pjama day and off to the docs for you in the morning. Have you ever tried taking a tonic, like Minadex? ( think is called that) Am glad the visit was better than expected.

dixie sounds like you are have a trying time. I hope today goes ok.could you think of a little effort long activity? Friday I took the boys one stop on the train to Ascot, walked up to the doctors to deliver Ds1s poo pot ( another story) popped into nursery to bid farewell to one of the staff, train home, costa for babycino and home. It took all afternoon but I felt like I hadn't really done anything but had some gentle exercise with the walking. And DS1 loved the train, they are his latest obsession.

Congrats vq on your sleep!

Aren't you impressed with my keeping upping this weekend.

Right. Little O's first trip to church today, I normally leave him with DH. Best get him ready.

Morning all. I hope everyone is well, I haven't read back very far. We're on bottle training here because DH and I are going to glastonbury in June and my parents are coming to look after the girls. It's going ok, sometimes she takes a bottle with no complaint, like this morning, other times she arches her back and screams, it's as if we're poisoning her. We're only giving one bottle a day at the moment and we're giving formula so that she's used to it.

Last night I decided to not give a dream feed and guess what? She slept through until 7am! I'm going to knock the dream feed on the head now. We still haven't really started weaning here, she was five months on 4th May. I've given her a bit of baby rice and puréed apple and pear but she doesn't seem very interested. Have any of the other late babies started yet? (mm1, clarella)

Since having the lip and tongue tie revision B is much more settled, goes longer between feeds and has piled on the weight. I may have a three stone baby by next month.

Hi-5 sophia for your keepingupness!

toomany we started yesterday and P is 6 month today. So not a later baby but a later start than some.

The pre-made chat is interesting. My sister started weaning while staying at my mum and dad's and chose jars. I have no issue with this but I wonder how the baby will respond when she tries to introduce her own cooking. Mind you, that boy just loves to nom so I can't see that there will be too big a problem.

det I was also wondering if it might be worth taking the opportunity to wean O off the swaddle. I found myself in a panic as P suddenly became much more physically able and I was frantic that she would turn herself over in it. We used the summer swaddle me which allows for one arm out then two arms. I was astonished at how quickly she adapted. All in I reckon she took one week to go from fully swaddled to sleeping bag. The only difference is that P was never swaddled for day naps. This might be a softer place to start if the thought of a full night is too much.

I suspect that a bed nest might help you move him on.

I survived the night and day without my boy.

Now just the 3 hour drive to smell that milky scrummy cuddle smell

He slept til now. Woke at 9.30 and was settled quickly. Woke at 1 and self settled I had a party in my head for one!. He woke at 3 and we had a massive battle of 90 mins and a gazillion failed transfers. But then he slept til 7, fed, and quietly fell back to sleep til 8.40.

I think the regression is the failed transfers. The million wakings was the swaddle.

I'm 100% sure he isn't ready to be unswaddled. Especially when I heard him self settling for the first time in forever he was able to soothe without accidentally breaking out of it in the process.

He's too long for the bednest sadly. He's 74cm

Sainsbury's had Ella's kitchen 1/3 off so i bought a couple to keep at my mum's (bit like I've got half a dozen pampers stashed somewhere ) but so far he's had mushed up veg and baby rice. We eat a lot of veg anyway so to me it's no biggie to cook a bit for him too. Might be different when we get to meals though

MM get checked asap. O needs you on top form and it's probably something simply like a vitamin deficiency

Despite the hysterics r had one of his best nights. 7:30-1, 1:15-3:15 and 4-8:15! He's woken up smily and I've leaked through my pad :o

Sounds like we had the same fight, Det R will be 6 months next week...

Why the nc?

We're having the same swaddle issues here too det. B breaks her arms out from it every night but won't sleep without being swaddled to begin with. She sleeps with two cellular pram blankets rolled up next to her face, if she wakes up with her arms out I unroll the blankets and put them on her arms so she cuddles them and doesn't smack her face. I did the same with dd1 and she still sleeps with her cellular blankets now (she's 5!). I don't think B's ready to be unswaddled yet either.

Gah DH just suggested he invites his dad round for lunch and in the same breath said "and you're not going to make me tidy up for him are you?" He was round last Sunday for dinner and Wednesday for lunch, now I have to suffer him again? So he can turn up late and then say he's not that hungry because he just had a big breakfast. Then spend the whole time expecting the boys to be seen and not heard and make sure I'm told that everything I say is complete crap. And what's wrong with wanting to tidy up before your ILs come round? I only mean pick up the toys from the floor, vacuum and give the WC a quick once-over, I'm not talking about dusting or washing windows or anything. Sorry I know I should have put this in AIBU but I wanted to get it off my chest.

Stunt how about "You skip the tidying and I'll skip the cooking and courtesy"?

Or just "Fab, you two can look after the kids and I'll see you after my massage/swim/shopping trip"

Stunt my dh has done similar soooo many times. I would be throwing the vacuum cleaner and toilet brush at him, and telling him that as he invited him, he can clean up. And then tell the boys to be as noisy as possible

Pidj we had a leaky pad here - woke up in a veritable milk bath this morning, as she only woke for a feed at 3 . She obviously wore herself out.

Both girls slept in til 8.30 - thank god. The total lack of feeding meant I've expressed 5oz every morning in about 10 minutes (loads for me), plus more throughout the day.

Pidj I like your style. In actual fact I will bite my lip and get on with it, after all I do expect DH to put up with my mum who is of course a bossy, interfering, stubborn busybody lovely person.

Dp went to the pub to watch the football at 12pm yesterday afternoon, he still hasn't come back, getting kinda worried now!

Gosh fruit! I would be furious and worried. Can you call him or his pals or the pub?

Any communication fruit? I would be past myself.

P thinks sweet potato is a bit boring this morning. The bowl was a lot more interesting. I think getting the timing right will be hard. She accepted about 4 spoons with tiny amounts on but most gets pushed out.

She'll get the hang of it. Someone invited me to a local Facebook group and there was a woman this morning saying her six month old is on 3 meals a day and when can she introduce x, y and z. Amazing how different they all are!

In other news poo seems to have gone back to relative normal.