November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

I suppose having had a shitty sleeper for no. 1, things can only get better for no. 2???

And crisps

Hope all had a good day, sorry I haven't caught up today.

A weeny bit peed off so thought I'd vent. I have the boys all day every day. And all night, 3 feeds a night at mo. DH is going in to work tomorrow afternoon, and not home till late, then has work do's on mon and tues evenings. So I don't even get any adult company in the evening for next 3 nights. And tonight, he has 3 beers which makes him sleepy so he can't even stay awake through Mad Men which i've been looking forward to and we have to switch it off so he can go to bed. I'm the one who's bloody up all night!! Now I'm doing DF, and he's fast asleep next to me. I know he's had a busy work week but it feels a bit relentless for me, at least he gets time to himself if only on train to work, I don't even get a break during the night. Sod it, I'm going to watch the rest of Mad Men without him.

Right, off to bed.
Luffs you all but hope to god not to see you again in a few hours

dixie that sounds rough
definitely watch Madmen, and maybe find a good moment to chat with DH about how knackered you are? Maybe he doesn't realise how knackered you are? Mine wouldn't if I didn't tell him so several times a day sometimes.

Pennie He's been in his own room since 13 weeks, due to waking issues! It didn't make any difference, but since he seemed fine sleeping in the cot otherwise, I just kept it that way.

When we stayed at my dads at the beginning of April, he was in with us in a moses basket with a cheap thin mattress as opposed to the ridiculous amounts I've spent on mattresses and blankets to make him comfy and started sleeping through again. That lasted maybe 3 weeks. I think we've had a week of waking a gazillion times a night now.

l has been asleep for 20 minutes somewhere other than on me for the first time in 2 days. det you are describing her, too. I don't think it's you, or me, I think it's developmental

Oh, also, brockle, J puts his hand down my tshirt for comfort, too. No one elses. Go figure.

Detective and Luis I certainly think it is developmental. When you look at quiche sleep as a whole you can usually see trends.

I knew O's 6 hours last night would be a one off. 3 hours tonight . He drank more milk than he ever has today and just woke up starving. Growth spurt I reckon.

Yeah, she's back on me.

Luis . You must be incredibly comfy.

To sleep on that is. I understand that it isn't comfy for you...

It's interesting, in a boring way no one but me will be interested in.

Since day 1 we've split baby duties with L that MrsG is in charge of food, I'm in charge of sleep. It's why I don't join in the weaning conversations et al... I just do what I'm told. But for sleep, I'm yesyes that I can be in a different room and suddenly feel she needs to sleep, and go in to get her, and people say "oh she's fine" and I snarl and they hand her over and she's asleep on me in seconds.

I just find it interesting as we've never fed her to sleep, the dream feed thing seems odd, and I am and always have been her favourite bed.

I dunno. Go easy on your partners. They may actually be unable to settle the bubs if you are the bed of choice. Having said that, they should be better at training the bubs to sleep in new places like cots for the same reasons.

So in conclusion, you're not me, your bub isn't mine, your partner isn't MrsG but be excellent to each other unless one of you is abusive or an arsehole or a manchild. See, no one but me is interested, but at least if you read this far you will now learn that, thanks to L, I have a bogey in my armpit.

LO been sleeping rubbish today. DB stayed in bed with him till he fell asleep. N he will be co sleeping with my sis tonight so making it easier.
Think he also may be unsettled due to different ppl putting him to bed, as days DH puts him to bed he is fine. N he has generally been a good sleeper for me before. I mean difficult when he had colic, he was sick, n adjusting to coming back from holiday. But generally good. He tends to sleep more during growth spurt and developmental stages.

Yesterday SIL just couldn't settle him so brought him down to me. Was pacing around trying to calm him. But he just looked at me n kept crying. Just broke my heart so I took him n rocked him best I could. Had to hold him for over half hour before I could put him down next to me on sofa. N this is from a normally very independent baby who usually cries at being picked up to long.

Just making me feel shit. I know my problems are nothing compared to some. N LO is so easy compared to other babies. Just frustrating that my health is having a direct impact on him and his sleep. And actually his growing up experience! We haven't been out at all for two weeks! We are at my mums this week end. But that's not out. He had been out for one walk with DH. N I can't blame DH. As he is working plus looking after both of us

Ok time to stop. As I'm working myself up.

Anyone ever been on crutches. Need practical advice. How do you carry food? I need to become independent.

Up again. Yawn.

GT that sounds horrid Could you give him something that smells of you, clothes, muslin etc when he is being settled to sleep? I'm sorry, have never used crutches so no advice on that front.

Luis bogey in the armpit huh?

Oh and 140 points Luis? Too good. Just far too good.

yeah sorry about that

Not a good image to go back to slleep with.

GT put food in a Tupperware container in a carrier bag, with cutlery, put bag on wrist and hobble to where you want to eat - or eat in the kitchen?

Hello all. Yawn.

Det I'm with VQ if sleep is shit now anyway use the time to get rid of the swaddle. We used the sleep regression at 4 months to initially get him out of the swaddle, and later from bed nest to cot. We've used the back end of the 6 month regression to get him in his own room. You'll never have the heart during a period of good unbroken sleep to make such a dramatic change - if you're anything like me - if sleep is good I'm obsessed with not changing anything!!!

Hi Dixie

Right the bear has drunkenly unlatched and is snoring on my lap - arms above his head. 9 til 3 on his first night in new room, half an hour feed...... when will he wake?

Passes the 'rambling night feed musings' conch to Dixie if she wants it xxx

Finally caught up. Hysterical baby doesn't like transition from wake to sleep but sleeps so much better this way