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November 2012 - Babies' first holidays: India, Australia, the world is their oyster

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StuntNun · 09/05/2013 07:25

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1746351-November-2012-In-denial-about-the-six-month-sleep-regression

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TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 21:53
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Evilwater · 11/05/2013 21:59

chasing- I can second is a escape route. Please, please have one ready. Make sure you can grab the essentials at a moments notice, and gather as much money as you can. The women of my family always have a secert bank account, espally for this.

detective- is the swaddling essential that he goes to sleep?

If baby evil has all his food out of packets (Ella's kitchen and hipp ones), does that make him a nestle baby?

There was so much more I was going to write, but I'm shattered.
Evil

PetiteRaleuse · 11/05/2013 22:00

He's not pissed me off, but I'm not going to wake him. Too full from all the steak :o

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:02

Yes Evil. The only other way for him to sleep is in the pushchair or car seat, so he is strapped in, and cocooned. He needs a frickin' womb to sleep in. Hmm

PetiteRaleuse · 11/05/2013 22:04

evil ella's kitchen and hipp are ok. They're not nestle :o

My baby only likes nestle. We don't get ella here and hipp we can get but in Germany so havn't tried them yet. Nestle is a problem for me as I have always boycotted them for baby stuff due to the formula milk scandals. But hey, happy baby, happy mummy right?

Evilwater · 11/05/2013 22:05

Det- I'm sorry to read that. Im very useless tonight, as I have no fecking idea what to do.

Nite all. Off for a meal tomorrow, hitch can only end in disaster. Will write about it later.

Nite

Evilwater · 11/05/2013 22:07

Just a quick one for PR baby evil loves hipp and Ella's. might be worth getting them?

Evil
( now truly gone)

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:10

PR I think you should boycott Nestle on account of my dad working for them.... grrrr. And his wife too.

ValiumQueen · 11/05/2013 22:18

pr I would not let any of my babies eat anything Nestle-ish. I feel very strongly about the quality of first foods and feel the ready made ones are full of gloop. I enjoy cooking for baby, but that is just me. Thankfully DH agrees. DD1 puked up her one and only jar of baby food (we were moving house) and DD2 never had any. Some of the pouches, Ella's Kitchen etc look ok, but cost is another thing that puts me off.

pass great news on the first taste.

bp has LO started feeding a bit better then?

ValiumQueen · 11/05/2013 22:20

dictective he needs to come out of swaddle some time - would now be a good time as he is not sleeping anyway?

BigPigLittlePig · 11/05/2013 22:22

VQ she has had a couple of v quick feeds. She is still WIDE AWAKE. And grizzly. I am on my knees. So is dh. Out of bright ideas, soooo if anyone has any!?

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:25

It's the swaddle that means he isn't sleeping VQ. He is breaking out of it then going mental and waking up.

Once I've got him down, he will generally stay asleep unless he breaks out the damn thing. Which he does. Because the velcro is fucked.

I've tried him without. He is up all night. Literally, will not sleep unless in car seat or pram and properly cocooned in so he feels held.

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:27

The swaddle I had ordered on Amazon has the option to release one arm at a time. So when he is ready, I'll try it. But he most definitely isn't ready yet :(

PetiteRaleuse · 11/05/2013 22:29

I agree vq

even the smell makes me gag. DD1 has only ever refused ready made stuff, much to my smugness delight.

And I never touch ready made food. My theory is I would never give anything to my kids that I wouldn't eat myself. But she really seems to prefer it, for now. Don't worry though, I will wean her off it if I have to add the gunk to my own stuff, then reduce, gently.

This, for me, is something I feel more strongly about than bf/ff, and cs vs vb, and actually pretty much everything. Because actual food is what we live on, forever.

But I am compromising, because as parents we just have to do that.

PetiteRaleuse · 11/05/2013 22:31

In France making one's own puree is the exception. Not the norm.

ValiumQueen · 11/05/2013 22:32

Apologies detective I thought he was regressing even with the swaddle.

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:33

He is, I think, but I can't be 100% sure til the swaddle business is sorted! He's had 1 wake up this evening, vs fuck knows how many by this time yesterday.

I think he would still be regressing, but the swaddle issue is making it a hell of a lot worse!

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:35

The regression appears to be manifesting in the form of not wanting to be put down when asleep, cot dodging, and waking instantly on transfer! That and taking a long time to settle when he didn't before.

The breaking out just compounds the above.

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:35

And is the reason for the wakings.

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StuntNun · 11/05/2013 22:39

My first experience of weaning with DS1 was extremely difficult and at the time my mum suggested using ready-made baby food to make it a bit less personal. Her theory was that if I spent time making food and he refused it then I would be upset at wasting time and effort whereas if I just opened a jar then I wasn't as invested in him eating the food. Pouches and jars are also handy when out and about. Plus sometimes babies love them: DS1 wouldn't eat pureed apple but he would eat a jar of apple puree IYSWIM. So don't necessarily rule them out entirely.

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ValiumQueen · 11/05/2013 22:40

J has also been nap dodging, waking more often, and wanting to sleep in his pushchair.

BigPigLittlePig · 11/05/2013 22:40

Det that sounds like what's happening here. She's finally flaked out, but it's taken 3hrs 40minutes. Not even going to bother trying to get her in her own bed tonight.

ValiumQueen · 11/05/2013 22:41

Oops. Not finished!

Then you have the concern it may be reflux or teeth...

I do not remember this with the girls.

PetiteRaleuse · 11/05/2013 22:43

I'll just correct myself. I never eat ready made meals except chocolate bars and McDonalds :o

TheDicktective · 11/05/2013 22:46

Yes VQ. You never know exactly what the fuck it is!!

No, never had this with DS1 either. I used to say DS1 was hard work. I've eaten my words.

O has been very hard work. Not that I'd change a thing well, except the fucking reflux but given how easy he was for the first 10 weeks, the last 14 have been a shock to the system! They are supposed to get easier! Not harder!!

Anyway, I am glad it isn't just me. Not that I am glad anyone is having sleeping issues. Just that I feel less like it is something I've done wrong, and more something that just 'is'.

Sick of carrying the fucking pram up the stairs in the middle of the night! Grin

Last night I was up for 2 hours because I refuse to let him sleep in the pram, it isn't good for him. No matter how asleep he was when I picked him up, as soon as he was put in the fucking cot he woke up screaming.

When he woke 15 minutes later I threw DP out the bed and told him to deal with him as I had 1 hour sleep the whole night and it was 5.15! DP left him to sleep in the fucking pram. Lazy cunt. GRRRR!