December 2012: Sunshine, saliva & sleeping more...we hope!

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New thread ladies

Post a pic to Facebook sporty?

T is currently resisting sleep. Seems 100% awake and wants to eat my arms/fingers etc. :(

Good work sitting babies!

Glad you had a nice time spotty
I had to go to dhs cousins house warming with my 3 without DH as he'd already planned to go out! It was quite a long drive for a couple of hours of not very much but dcs all did well. At least part of dhs aft/eve was selling some old bits and he made £150 so that's good.

Any use a ring sling? I am loving it for ease of popping her on and Tabs seems to really like it but I do find it pulls a bit on the shoulder so don't know how long I could carry her for. I've got the fabric spread as much as possible and fabric pulled in tight, rings in good place etc I think. Any tips?

Photos up

No ring sling here I've even sold the caboo as ds didn't like it

He went four hours between two feeds today do you think he will make up for it over night?!

I'm wondering the same as T hasn't seemed to feed much today. Love the pics, your hair looks lovely and ds looks super cute!

I use a ring sling, although we are still getting used to it. I try to spread as much of the width of the sling over my shoulder and keep it away from my neck.

The Little Mister is just getting used to the RS, but he also seems to like the Connecta and even went to sleep in it the other day.

Spotty, you know what you were saying about walkers and toe walking? Is there the same concerns with jolly jumpers etc?

How do I get on the Facebook group? I want to see the pretty hair!

Glad the wedding went well Spotty.

It was DH's birthday today, so we went out for lunch and saw the new Star Trek. MIL had the children, for about 6 hours in the end. A drank..... just under 1 ounce of milk in that time, which contains 2 of his usual feeds. Oh dear.

Oh beasty! Is that because he's normally bf and didn't like the bottle?

ski pm honey with your fb details and she'll send you an invite.

Still trying to get DS to bed I think he's got wind, the farts are pretty eyebrow raising!

Well DS didn't poo at all yesterday (completely unheard of) but he did today, he had one that I changed halfway theough a feed as he was tired and I didn't want him falling asleep with it. Them he slept for half hour, then he woke up and did a massive fart and filled the nappy instantly. So I changed him, then as I did the poppers up on his vest he started grunting and filled a third! They were all huge no idea how he'd stored that little lot inside him!

Right finally breathing deeply on my shoulder I shall go for the transfer. Wish me luck!

That's impressive IsThat!

Oh no Barbeasty he will get used to it, plus he will be weaning soon so he won't starve and can make up for it when you're at home.

Ski I think so, we still have a door bouncer but I think it's easier to only use that for twenty minutes (I sometimes use it when I'm cooking dinner) whereas a walker you can easily leave them to it and forget. Like others have said its just about being sensible and I'm only wary because dd toe walked-she does have other issues though.

Yes, it's only the 2nd time he's tried a bottle anyway. Apparently MIL tried the bottle warm, cold, put some in a sippy cup, tried a spoon... nothing. She'd given up, and just waived the bottle in front of him again, and he grabbed it and was licking & chewing it. So she tipped it up a bit and he had a bit of a go, but obviously an ounce was all he needed to take the edge off.

Hopefully nursery will sort him out!!

It was easier with DD. I was off for a year, so I didn't have to worry about it.

Honestly, if he could just have water in his 10hr day, and then make up for it at home for 6 months it would be easier! No expressing needed...

Of course, it might work nicely. Express enough before & after work for 2 feeds and not have to do anything at work.

I just really want to know roughly how much milk he's going to have each day, so I can plan the expressing.

It's the small things I worry about!

Hope everyone had a good night, and enjoy the sun today.

beasty you could always have some cartons of formula on standby while you both settle in to the new routine.

Thank you for all your well wishes i'm over the worst now just a headache to get rid of

Barbeasty hope you and DP had a lovely time out for his birthday yesterday FX that A takes a bottle/sippy cup. He might of just been too busy having a nose round his nans yesterday.

I have just seen the worst bit of advice given in regards to a newborn baby, i want to really rant at the girl whose done it, DP is telling me to keep out of it . But my friend had a baby 2 weeks ago and is BF on demand. She put a status on facebook quite late last night about how her son has her wrapped around his little finger.

In reply to that another friend who has a 2 month old has asked these 2 questions how does he sleep? And have you got him in a routine?

Other friend has replied baby sleeps well sometimes not so well at others but had been on the breast all day yesterday.

And here it comes bad advice time this has made me so irrationally angry i want to pull my hair out Other friend with 2 month old therefore knows everything about babies and shall now be known as superfuckingmum suggests that she use a pump to express to see how much she gets out because it might not be enough. As when she used a pump at 2 weeks she used a double pump for 40 minutes she 'only' got 3oz out. And it was no wonder her baby was breastfeeding all day because 'the poor little thing wasn't getting enough' so she had to swop to bottles

Grrr i'm sorry for this post but i hate stuff like this, if someone had done that to me 2 weeks after having H i would have give up i'm remember it taking an hour to express an oz once well when H actually stopped feeding. I hate people giving advice when they havn't got a clue

Hales I would say something!!

'It's completely normal for newborns to feed constantly and they will continue to do so during growth spurts (expect another at six weeks). Expressing only gets out the stored milk whereas a baby stimulates milk production as she sucks therefore this is a completely inefficient way of telling how much milk they're getting. You are doing a great job '

We had a shit night last night-12:15,2:30,4,6:15 up for the day

Thanks Spotty i've sent a private message. As if bf isn't hard enough without people giving shit advice

Hales, good on you for giving accurate advice! The best way someone explained to me is that babies are hugely efficient at getting milk but pumps not at all

Long hiatus between posts for me. Still in Aus another 3 days, just as jet lag and night wakings seem to be sorted. Napping has gone to crap though. Loads of stuff to try to sort out once we're back. Weaning has made little progress as I've been so busy. We'll start on earnest back in the UK.

I hope everyone's enjoying the sun. Bad night last night but as I went to bed around 10 I got a bit more sleep. DS had a major meltdown earlier. Really cried and I couldn't work out why. In the end I just put him in the car and went for a drive as I couldn't calm him. He seems alright now but he's fighting sleep badly.

T keeps really crying lots today. Even when he's feeding he's sort of grumbling away. I'm wondering if its teeth as he's chewing everything, and seems briefly better when he starts chewing at something, then screams again :( I hope they show up soon.

The medicines we're giving T don't seem to have had any miraculous effect on his sleeping. Still waking very hour or so. I think he's more comfortable through the day though - at least I've not noticed any reflux. He could still have it though, and it's just not reaching his mouth. Or his throat could be sore from being irritated so much, and taking time to heal. Fingers crossed something helps soon.

Mama, glad the jet lag is getting better now. Hope you enjoy the last few days of your trip.

Sorry for others with bad sleep. Fingers crossed for a better night all round tonight.

Hales, well done for taking the time to give more accurate advice. 2-3 weeks was the hardest point for me for breastfeeding. The last thing you need at that point is someone like that telling you you're starving your baby (just like my HV did!).

stacks you're right it's likely that his oesophagus is still very sore from the reflux and needs a bit of time to heal. Fx he feels better soon.

hales well done for stepping in. Bfing can be very hard and your friend needs good advice and support.

I spent another day at ikea today with Tabitha in the ring sling, it was marvellous! She loved it, not one whinge, lots of lovely cuddles and a couple of naps. Monkey screamed in the car on the way home - actually screaming and crying like she has never before - ive got a dreadful sore throat and assumed she must be feeling dreadful so in tears I pulled over at the first services - as soon as I lifted her out of the car seat she stopped and smiled at me! Gave her a little bf and cuddle in the car until I was satisfied that she wasn't in terrible pain and put her back. Repeat. I'm thinking that she doesn't like being in her own - she almost always has dd1/2 in the back and dd1 almost always talks to her or holds her hand.

First wake up. Seems like the good sleep was all just a misunderstanding and now ds is back to 2-3 hourly

Ds is six months today

WL ds cries when he can't see me a proper ear pearling 'quick something's wrong' cry it makes me sad!

Stacks hopefully ds will feel lots better soon

Oh dear spotty I was hoping his/your sleep was improving.
I guess it's a developmental thing then as she was sounding so awful it made me panic and cry.
Happy half birthday baby spotty. I was just thinking how fast Ts life is going while I was getting ready for bed.
Met a lady yesterday who was a full on gina fordist. I just sat quietly!

Happy 6 month day to Baby spotty

H cries in the car if there isn't music on.

Mama i hope your getting some sleep, and that you enjoy your last few days in Australia.

Stacks i think you maybe right, it might take a little bit for his windpipe to feel better. FX it doesn't take to long and you see an improvement in your sleep.

WL i can never understand why people love Gina Ford i suppose its the idea of routine. I remember being pregnant and saying from 2weeks of age i'd be putting H into a routine. When she got here though it was a totally different story. I couldn't care less about routines now just as long as H is happy i'm happy to follow her lead. I may regret it when shes older but for now i'll try to enjoy it.

Happy half birthday baby spotty! Oz is 5 months tomorrow, it barely seems credible..

Lovely weekend here in the sun at in laws. They are a bit soppy over ds, but I suppose so are we, and dh has managed a day of a. Properly relaxing without running about house hunting, and b. Enjoying some full on daddy time wearing ds and playing with him on the lawn, including some major swinging which produced some quite fantastic giggling!

Good on you for the advice, Hales, it's amazing what nonsense people talk.

Also we found out yesterday that some friends are expecting in December, whoop whoop! They've been told apparently that 'there might be a chance there are more than one foetus in there', eek! (But quite exciting)

Oh and I feel your pain wl re car seat. O can play happily or fall asleep but 50% of the time on journeys over 20 minutes just goes into an angry shouting fit so intense that you have to stop and take him out as it sounds like he'll hurt his throat, and it's entirely car seat based anger. It makes taking long journeys highly tactical/stressful but I've not found a silver bullet solution yet..