November 2012 - In denial about the six-month sleep regression

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1740697-November-2012-Starting-weaning-what-does-your-baby-eat

Sometimes going up a nappy size at night time can help Katie, I find J needs to move up a size at night earlier than in the day IYSWIM.

I made petits pois puree yesterday BP. It's not orange but is giving me Exorcist flashbacks. If you can't have caffeine how about going for the sugar rush instead?

I'm just back from the hospital and we've been told we can stop patching DS2's eye! He's been wearing a patch for four and a half years so this is a big thing in the Nun household.

J is currently having a big feed and is then going to sleep for two hours so I can have a nap too. Right? Right? Please? I was seriously worried driving to the hospital this morning that I might be having those micro sleeps where you don't know you're falling asleep for a few seconds at a time. I had a big cup of coffee to get me home safely. Unfortunately it was from a machine so not that nice.

It's a bit early yet but there's a new thread here: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1751304-November-2012-Babies-first-holidays-India-Australia-the-world-is-their-oyster.

Stunt awesome news! May you get some zzzzzs to celebrate.

MM crumbs sounds a bit

I'm bored we're waiting in all day for TNT to pick up parcels - apparently they'll be here sometime before 6pm. Ho him

Cranial osteopath appointment booked for Jonas for tomorrow. Will report back on woo / bunkum factor but hell if it means I can eat chocolate again more quickly its worth a shot!

Morning all. Wish sweary weds was still here! Poor e was coughing all night :( seemed fine this morning though so tried giving him some banana cereal, he had a few spoons of it, then some mango fingers. He loved them until he gagged and threw up. This scared the fuck out of me and understandably meant he was done with the mango. :( the terrified part of me wishes he'd just take from a spoon. Actually bottles seem easier. I remember when I used to think I couldn't wait to wean him to get shot of all the fucking bottles!

I for one won't be on a 2014 quiche pr! Nope!

hugs gt that doesn't sound fun at all!

I bet that will be the case stunt, I've yet to try but I'll probably give in and try at some point. Awesome news re ds2's eye, totally brilliant!

Oh bplp and there was me thinking my night sucked, yours sounds far worse!

Fc all is well with your neighbours mm

I am thankful people put up with me. If I were them, I probably wouldnt. It's another one of those days

I say seems fine, he drank this morning but just refused most of his 11ish bottle and is asleep after crying. Sounds like he has a sore throat to me, he doesn't usually sound like that, very high pitched and rough sounding :( bollocks

Kyz I have that issue with mango, I think it's because it's quite fibrous so it doesn't break up easily if that makes sense? He likes the taste though so if he is gagging too much either I help him hold it, or squish a bit onto some toast fingers. The riper it is the easier for him to manage although v messy!

Yes jj I think that was the issue, it's quite fibrous and he swallowed a few bits but then gagged on the one and it was quite stringy looking. I got a couple of those mesh feeders so thought some very ripe flesh could go in one?

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to clean them? Guessing they need sterilising but can't find anything on the packaging

O just had babycorn for lunch . Absolutely loved it. I think he swallowed a few kernels, but whenever he bit a big bit off he pushed it back out of his mouth again. So that's broccoli and babycorn on the success list so far.

DS was properly eyeing up mine and DD's cheese omelette at lunchtime so I let him nom a bit, he was full of smiles. Guess I am doing dairy this week then!

Do we let them drop feeds of their own accord? Only I don't think DS will drop anything, he's keen to have 6 x 8oz bottles plus porridge at breakfast (massive bowl) and up to 12 cubes of purée per day plus anything from finger foods he actually swallows. Hmmm.

F has only fed today at 2, 4 and 10. She's asleep again poor little sausage.

Kyz let us know how you get on with those mesh things, I'd been looking at them, but still in two minds about getting them.

Will do bplp, poor f, hope she feels better soon!

That's fab chasing!

Also fab madame! I don't know about dropping feeds, I wouldn't mind e dropping the 10pm df, I'll either try the less formula for water thing or stop offering it, see how long he sleeps and feed him in the small hours, hoping he'll go longer.

Was eating lunch, e seemed to be watching me so I took a chance on a bit of pear purée and he ate a whole cube!!! An entire cube! And I think he wanted more but I didn't have any defrosted and didn't want to push my luck.

I think you're meant to let them drop in their own time. Till 12 months milk (either variety) is still their first food really

Now. I want to know where the idea of milk being the only thing they need till one comes from. It's not an nhs guideline. By 9 months it seems to suggest they should be on three meals a day. I'm easy, as long as he's half eating etc and drinking I'm happy. I'm just interested as it seems to be a mumsnet phenonmenoa.

Anyway, stunt ill disagree with you on the slept quality 7-12 pm, ds has never gone down before 10, and sleeps ok. I think the first stretch of sleep seems to be the longest. As a child we never went to bed at 7. It seems a very British thing that kids should be in bed for 7. I don't really understand it.

There was much more I was going to say but the dog has just emptied the cat litter and the bloody cat has gone from the litter onto the worktop. I want to get rid of both cats. They are really really annoying me.

Oh that was it!!!! Yes we use size 4 overnight!!! Like stunt, seems to help. I find pampers fine. His skin in dry in the morning. Nappy wet!!

Fly by visit!

Had an appointment with one of the Consultants at work today for a second opinion on my broken fanjo.

Very surreal having one of your colleagues poking around ones vagina. And then getting a mirror and pointing bits in your own vagina out with a swab stick.

Anyway, up shot is, we are trying steroid injections to break the scar tissue down. It isn't yet fully healed inside still, but nothing can really be done about that without making things worse. There is a lot of scarring - more than I was advised . She pointed it out to show me, there were tears on top of the epis. Generally, shot to bits would describe it. I also have an extra piece of skin at the fourchette now. Explains the slight discomfort on penetration. Can live with that. I guess.

Definitely advised not to go back to work because the risk of things breaking down will be really high. Told to do very low level exercise only, gentle walking and swimming. Build it up - which is what I have been doing really.

She said at least 3 more months off work, have steroid injections as required, and expect 2 years before everything settles down.

And not to have another vaginal birth. :( :( :(

And minimum 2 years between pregnancies.

There's a pity party with my name on it today!

And I managed to resist chocolate after the appointment. My will power is far better than I realised.

O has naturally changed his own bedtimes from 11-11, to 7-7ish. This happened around 4 months I think. He was doing 8-7, or 9-7, but I've discovered it doesn't matter what time he goes to bed, he still wakes at the same time. So if he wants to go at 7, that's fine for me.

Awww det. That all sucks. Major hugs your way x

Bugger det - but at least work understand why you are off now? Hugs

Still no sign of either neighbour. I know everything is probably fine but I am a bit worried about them.

My mum has had M all afternoon and I've managed to get a shit lot done. Note to self though, when DP says he has taken over cleaning bathroom, ignore ignore ignore! I dont know what part of it he has been cleaning!! (

det ouch poor you. I hope you start to notice some sort of improvement.

I think ds will start going down earlier when he's ready as well. He's just always got up between 6&7!!

I need some advice too.

My mum and stepdad are at their wit's ends with my 18 year old sister. In the last year she has turned into the brat from hell and my mum is really upset that she is pushing her away in favour of living with our dad (a prize one arsehole who I have as little to do with as possible). Today she blew her uni fund buying a 15 year old car to piss my mum off. My mum had promised her use of her car should she stay with them but this is DSis' way of sticking 2 fingers up to them.

When I was 18 I was a twat. I wouldnt have listened to anyone giving me advice, but i cant help but want to throttle her sit down with her and stop her doing something catastrophic and/or permanently destroy the relationship she has with my mum. It is breaking my heart to see how upset my mum is by her behaviour (probably because I can see glimours of how badly I treated them when I was a teenager ).

WWYD?

huge hugs detective at least you have some clarity on how bad it is and you get extra time with O xx

Sorry Horsey the 7-12 thing was just an example, it's that the first few hours of sleep is the deepest for babies, obviously that depends on their bedtime.

The 'food is fun till one' mantra is from blw and is just plain wrong. After six months (earlier for preterm babies) the baby needs solid food for iron, zinc, vitamins etc. This is one area where formula gives a big advantage as it is fortified.

(((Hugs))) Detective sounds awful.

I'm no expert on teenagers MM but I suspect there's little you can say to her to influence her behaviour, I'm sure she thinks she knows it all. You can offer support to your mum, someone to complain at?

It's not the only wrong thing from the whole blw book and practice.

stunt thank you. It just really annoys me with people keep saying that. Babies need to get better nutrition. It just concerns me people listen to the web opposed to official guidelines.

mm you could speak to her. She's unlikely to listen but I think if you do say something, at least you've said it. Does that make sense? You can't be accused of not saying anything then if it does go wrong. I can remember being an absolute tit at 18. My mother remembers it worse than I actually think it was, but teenagers HAVE to hit back and do stupid things. It's how they learn. However, it's trying to limit the damage as much as you can during that time. As such etienne has a small amount of money in his account but his uni/house/whatever fund is in my name and will stay that way. Present money is in his name. So yes, say something but don't fall out with her. We're going through a similar thing with my cousin but she's now pregnant to a very unsuitable chap. But what can you do?!