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November 2012 - In denial about the six-month sleep regression

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StuntNun · 02/05/2013 11:38

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1740697-November-2012-Starting-weaning-what-does-your-baby-eat

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horseylady · 08/05/2013 08:22

gt also wanted to say, I think dropping an entire feed could be a bad idea. If you're worried he's eating too much or you want him to eat more solids, try reducing the amount in each bottle and offering more solids. I think they drop feeds themselves when they're ready.

Passmethecrisps · 08/05/2013 08:24

Pizza Hut! Of course . . . Veg, fruit, proteins, deep pan.

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 08/05/2013 08:27

Yo quiche peeps!

Shite night here. DS has a horrid cold, rivers of snot and a heartbreaking cough. But between coughing fits he slept well. So am hopeful that by the time Monday comes, he will be sleeping better

I felt exactly the same as PR did during pregnancy and bryzoan about the fact that DS was a boy, even though up til that moment, I had wanted a boy. I posted a few threads back about feeling concerned that I may not love DS as much as I love DD. I still know DD better and we have all the history that DS and I don't yet have, but I couldn't be without DS, and I have enjoyed his babyhood so much more than DD's, because it isn't the first time and I am not worrying so much. Like chasing I don't love easily, and had no instant rush of love with either baby. But little by little, DS has come to be as important and as special as DD. And far from ruining her life, watching her with DS swells my heart.

Weaning going v well here. DS loves veg and fruit purée, has sampled all of the ones I needed him to have tried for nursery, and eats in any combo. He loves fruit purées nice and cold. Am going to get some yoghurt to try this week, and add some homemade chicken stock to the veg purée before introducing meat. DD used to fucking love veg purée and "chicken juice", so am looking forward to DS's reaction.

Off to visit the inlaws today, DH and I are going to sneak off to Chinese buffet for lunch to celebrate/commiserate my last week of maternity leave. Sorry to the dieters. But take comfort in the fact I am guaranteed to be uncomfortably full for the rest of the day.

Over and out until this evening!

PetiteRaleuse · 08/05/2013 08:30

DD1 is 2 and still insists on about 18-24oz of formula milk in a bottle every day. She won't touch cows' milk. What can I do with her? She only drinks it at home and in the car thank fuck otherwise those English judgey pants will be hoiked up high in June Am hoping she will try English cow's milk, it is better than French for some reason. Even the full fat fresh stuff here isn't as good as proper English milk apparently. I personally don't know as I hate the white stuff. We get through about a pint a month when I make thinngs like pancakes and yorkshires. I don't use milk otherwise.

I was convinced LO had slept through last night from 8pm til 6 this morning but DH said she was up for a feed at about 2. Which means that for the first time ever she drank over 30oz yesterday.

Rather than dropping feeds try spacing them out a little more and feeding more at each feed. Obviously not leaving them to scream with hunger but try to distract for an extra half hour here and there?

Passmethecrisps · 08/05/2013 08:31

Yep GT I would follow baby's lead rather than impose it. He will simply wake because he is hungry if he isn't ready. We have dropped the last bottle of the day because p was drinking less and less. We finally stopped when it got to 30ml repeatedly night after night.

Also with regard to the blanket vs growbag issue could you remind your DH that growbags are much safer?

ChasingDaisy · 08/05/2013 08:57

Every two cunting hours last night Sad

He is developing at an alarming rate though so wonder if the two are connected. When I wave at him now, he beams at me and waves his arm back at me Smile

Off to the supermarket later, inspired by tales of melon and papaya.

MissMummy1 · 08/05/2013 09:05

Matilda haa a cold and was also waking herself up every 40 mins. Do we have the same baby kirrin ??

I have her cold and a monster period (but thank fuck I'm not upduffed!!)

DP wants to take her swimming. Is this silly?

PetiteRaleuse · 08/05/2013 09:26

I wouldn't take her swimming with a cold in case her ears are already getting infected. Plus her immune system will be down while it is fighting the cold so if any kid in there also has something she might catch it. And of course she might be feeling ill and not up to the excitement. I'd take a toddler with a cold to the pool if she felt well enough, but not a baby.

Damn bastard dog just managed to get under or over the fucking fence into the neighbours' garden the stupid fecking twat. Had to get me dressed quickly, drag DD1 round there (LOwas asleep fortunately) and of course by the time we hot permission from the neighbour to go into their garden the cunt had managed to get back home. He is now super stressed and barking in the fucking house and no doubt LO will be up and screaming.

Ow my poor ears.

Twat.

PetiteRaleuse · 08/05/2013 09:28

Melons aren't in season yet. We ate one yesterday that tasted of soil. Ugh. I suppose you might be able to buy ripe ones from furth afield over there though.

Fucking dog.

Passmethecrisps · 08/05/2013 09:47

PR horrid here as well. I bought one recently which was reduced as slightly over ripe. Tasted of nothing. Absolutely nothing. Horrible texture as well.

ChasingDaisy · 08/05/2013 09:49
ChasingDaisy · 08/05/2013 09:55

O is outgrowing his grobags so need to get the next size up. I'm a sucker for the official gro store ones, but are there any places online I can buy cheaper but still nice, alternatives?

Elizadoesdolittle · 08/05/2013 10:09

chasing do you have a TK Maxx nr you? They often have grobags really well priced. Or amazon quite often have deals on them if you aren't too fussy about what pattern you have. I am a sucker for the proper grobags too. Just haven't found any other make that I like as much. Or try eBay?

MsJupiterJones · 08/05/2013 10:16

Chasing Asda have some in their baby event, I bought the Milkshake one for £15. Or they have non-branded ones cheaper.

link here

Kyzordz · 08/05/2013 10:20

Hmm, I don't like melon so I dont know what it's supposed to be like :/

I am not worrying today. Nope. He will eat what he wants and there are plenty of meals that don't involve mashed potato. I think I got stressed because mum harps on about mash being an ideal first food, no taste, easy texture and you can add veg, so yesterday I felt almost desperate for him to eat it because I felt like If he did I could add veg to it and then he would like veg. But I am trying to keep positive, I will offer him pear today. He liked that before so maybe he'll eat it again

pr your dog sounds daft! My old dog has a tendency to run off for hours, not so much now thank god, but only cos I've made the garden rediculously escape proof!

What else did I want to say?

With feeds I was advised to put a scoop less of formula in, so for df he has 8oz water, 7 scoops. Thing is I don't know what comes next, is it 6 scoops to 8oz or 6 to 7oz :/

Raining here today. Plastering a smile on anyway trying to

Passmethecrisps · 08/05/2013 10:22

Is there any actual advantage to proper grobags? I ask because p has sainsbury's ones which are fine but she got a completely rubbed raw cheek one night from the shoulder fastening.

Passmethecrisps · 08/05/2013 10:31

Why were you advised that kyz?

What about fruit and veg combinations? Carrot and apple? Or mixing sweet veg with less so like maybe sweet potato and broccoli?

No idea as we haven't started yet but I am trying to prepare myself with various combinations. You are absolutely right just to chill though. Keep offering but relax if he refuses. He'll get there eventually.

Dairy free peeps - nutramigen have a helpful leaflet on their website which gives recipes for for CMP free weaning.

MsJupiterJones · 08/05/2013 10:37

Kyz I don't like melon either, must remember to buy some for DS as I just wouldn't think of it normally. Btw did you try sweet potato? You can roast/boil them or give em 5 mins in microwave and cut into sticks, it's a slightly different texture to normal potato. DS went crazy for it, he held the sticks and chomped on it and then just mashed the whole lot into his face with delight. Sorry I know you've done a lot of cooking veg already! The same thing happened to me with peppers btw.

I have a 'proper' gro bag and one from Gap (which I bought when I met Eliza), the proper one seems better in terms of temp, they are both 2.5 tog but he sweats a bit in the Gap one.

StuntNun · 08/05/2013 11:21

I think official Grobags are better than lots of others, especially the covered zip at the top but wouldn't pay full price for one - TKMaxx is definitely the best place to get them although you don't get much choice of patterns. The non-Grobag sleeping bags we have had seem to break easily or be less comfortable for the baby. Another advantage of sleeping bags is that is can delay the point at which your baby first climbs out of the cot because they have to work out how to get out of the sleeping bag first.

Kyz it sounds to me like you are doing everything right with weaning. I have posted before about my other boys being very resistant to food, not all children happily gobble down everything that's given to them. My DS1 was 9 before he could eat mashed potato without gagging, something about the texture. J ha had the odd spoonful of food here and there but most of the time he just has a taste then clamps his mouth shut. I think we'll have more luck once his coordination improves and he can get the spoon in by himself.

We had a much better night last night, J had two feeds and woke twice requiring his dummy but DS2 wasn't up at all. It's weird that the one with ADHD that's on stimulant medication is the only one that doesn't get up in the night! DS1 also has a cast iron bladder - he can drink a pint of milk at bedtime and still not need to get up in the night for a pee.

It's DH's birthday today so we went out for a fry at the local chippy . Unfortunately my present for him hasn't arrived yet due to a mixup at the delivery company (it got sent to Scotland by mistake!) It will hopefully arrive today as I feel very guilty about only having a card for him this morning. It wasn't even a very good card lol!

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TheDetective · 08/05/2013 11:29

O is in a fabulous mood this morning. Good job, because I am not!

Although he is doing a good job of cheering me up! O tried pear this morning! His first reaction was very funny, a mixture of shock and wonder! Then he went mental for it, and scoffed the lot. I assume he liked it! Grin He's also suddenly discovered bouncing in the jumperoo. However, it is usually when he is pissed off and wants to be lifted out. He bounces away furiously like a little angry old man full of rage. Grin

Kyz I will try and get a picture of O eating something with chunks. He always chokes, but he is fine. I gave him my banana this morning and tried to film him, but I couldn't manage it! Will need DP to help me! I'll put it on FB when I get one so you can see it is normal and okay!!

Has anyone got the Ikea bibs? O has got 2 packs of them, and I'm currently using them for when he is having solids. However they are rubbing his neck red raw Confused. Anyone else with this problem? I'm sure they shouldn't be doing that.

wannabedomesticgoddess · 08/05/2013 11:34

S has learned to roll properly from back to front. Problem is that when she gets there she is stuck and screams to be fixed.

Really really tired even though I am getting ok sleep.

Kyzordz · 08/05/2013 11:37

Sorry pass I meant the dream feed not every feed

I'll try sweet potato again jj, didn't do sticks of it before just purée, I'll do some sticks though

pass I'm gonna try mixing fruit and veg, and try sweet veg again too. Pear today and we'll see how he goes and then maybe if it goes ok he might take it with a little carrot :)

E doesn't have proper gro bags and has been ok. Wish the proper ones weren't so expensive!

Great stuff, he's being funny with milk today too. Fucksticks. Still, onwards and upwards.

Passmethecrisps · 08/05/2013 12:09

Poor penny is a poo machine today. Bright yellow mucus. Poor sausage. She still seems fine in herself though so I have no idea.

DH says he doesn't feel terribly well today so maybe there is a wee big going about. We will stay home today though.

Ah! That makes sense kyz! Yeah, I think to wean off a dream feed you offer more water to less formula. I think the idea is that you make it more dilute. I am not sure though and have never really done DFing anyway as p was always fully awake. Like I mentioned before she was having amounts and sometimes refused completely. I had hoped I would up her day time amounts but nope.

If we make bolognese with red wine in can P have any?

MaMaPo · 08/05/2013 12:18

Hello sweary Wednesday fuckers!

Haven't been on this thread for an age but have been keeping abreast, ESP with weaning news. Kyz, sounds like things are going fine. We have started C on some baby rice - she is pretty uncoordinated and interet is variable depending on how tired she is, but she seems to be finding it perplexing and interesting if nothing else. Bought a copy of the River Cottage baby and toddler cookbook, partly because there are recipes in there that I'd love to eat! Good emphasis on seasonal food too.

So wish me luck, everyone, for today I take my 5 month old on a plane to Australia, on my own. Off to meet family. I am completely fucking bricking it certain everything will go smoothly. I am with Izzy, the worst bit is waiting for the cab and wondering what the hell I've forgotten. I've packed 15 nappies. It's 21-22 hours of flight time, plus about another 7-8 of transit - have I underestimated? Shall I shove a few more in somewhere? I have 4 changes of clothes for her and 2 for me.

Also, it's a dry fucking airline. I am going to have to buy some wine to take onboard - once C is asleep I am going to need that drink.

StuntNun · 08/05/2013 12:53

Fuck buggery tit wank forgot to swear in my earlier post. Arsebiscuits.

The diluting feeds thing is a GF suggestion for night weaning by adding a scoop less formula to the night bottle (but same amount of water). The theory is that by the time your baby is just getting water or very watery milk they will lose interest and stop waking.

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