November 2012 - In denial about the six-month sleep regression

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1740697-November-2012-Starting-weaning-what-does-your-baby-eat

Not that giving purée is forcing them to eat but that it seems that way with e, not that I do force it into him but he acts like I have!!!

I reckon that might be so det I just don't feel confident that I won't kill him. I'll do it all wrong :( sticks will be wrong and i'll cook stuff too much/not enough and allsorts. May look for a book.

Kyz most veg can be steamed. I've got one of those tiered pans like this.

So far everything has been steamed (as it keeps the good bits in and it is super fast at cooking veg!) apart from peppers which can be grilled or roasted!

Have you seen these things? If you are worried you could try those. I am in two minds, but then O chokes and swallows, so I give him a chance to choke if you know what I mean. I let him do 3 gags/chokes and if he doesn't resolve it himself, I step in hysterically. It has only happened once and that was the very first food I tried him with.

pidj I'd complain to the manufacturer! False advertisement! :( for wakey babies... go to sleep all quiche babies PLEEEEEEEEASE!

I even steamed the pears in it!

For those wondering about more bubs, I'd run into a burning building through a brick wall for J, so I never thought I'd love a second as much. But I do. She's very different, but she's a giggler, and she loves textures. I can watch her just touching things for ages. But the best thing of all is watching them together. When L is upset and J runs over to give her a hug. Or L is surrounded by toys but the most interesting thing she can see is J.

Sleep deprivation and my knees are bringing me to my kne... wait, let me try that again. Sleep deprivation and knees are making me a sad and grumpy and emotional daddy.

Have a wonderful holiday Izzy

Also, Mac and Cheese for dinner. MrsG made me promise never to make it for another woman. so many sins. so... many... sins

Kyz maybe steam veg and offer it in slices if he prefers feeding himself.
I have a lazy eater and anything he is given is chucked across the bastard room. So I'm just on purees unless I'm having a banana n he plays with it with his tongue.

FH I have are both Fucking worried that LO is a little big so FH has decided to cut out night feed. I'm a lil annoyed. As he already pushed his 6am feed to 8am. Because he can quite happily ignore his mumbles n I've been on sofa downstairs calling him saying get up. N by the time I hear him get his lazy fucking arse up LO has gone to sleep. Annoyed. So all week of this n now lo stays asleep till twatting 8! And yesterday FH went lets try getting rid of 11pm feed. I said yes on condition that whenever LO woke he would be fed and not ignored ( I'm back to sleeping in bed so was more confident at my ability to hit him till he got up n be listened to) but LO didn't wake till 7.38! He did 12 hours
So what's his say to me. I'm a crap mum? Ok no. I don't believe that! I'm to soft ??? It's really fucking annoying me that LO has been good for FH this week. N ill be more annoyed if he doesn't stick to his new routine for me

Either way it's not worked today. LO screamed and cried at 11pm n it seems he has moved n maybe banged his head FH said. I keep telling FH to put him in his grow bag. But he tells me it's to hot! It's a 1 fucking tog bag! He puts a bastard blanket on him which is the bloody same. N it means he will not move as much! Stupid fucking man.

Just remembered its wed. Off to rewrite my post... Swearyness not as great when added after post writen ... I'm too tiered to try harder.

Yep kyz I boil or steam the broccoli until it is cooked but still has a bite to it. I think he likes broccoli so much because it is fun to play with. The eating bit is just a bonus. Think I may try cauliflower next as it is a similar shape. O really hates being spoon fed. He has even started holding his own bottle. He loves being independent. Maybe E is the same and a more BLW approach is the way to go?

Luis what a lovely description of having two children. I feel like me and O are such a good team that it cannot possibly get any better with the addition of a new member. But then, every day I think it isn't possible to love him anymore than I do and every day I am proved wrong. I am not someone who loves easily and I have really been taken by surprise.

Well were all up and waiting on taxi to airport!!

I feel sick :( I hate all the stress of packing and worrying about thinga I may have forgotten!

Have a lovely time Izzy x you deserve it x safe journey and hope the kiddie winks behave for you x

Bon voyage, Izzy!

R likes to put his own spoon in, i just load then put it in his hand and guide it a bit. He's not quite there with the blw thing, judging from his attempt to fit a rusk in his mouth flat side first

4 hours. Please go back down till 6 now, dude?!

All babies are awesome. If I were younger I would have more. The first one will always be special as they made you a mummy, but subsequent babies are just as special, but in a different way. And Luis is right, seeing them together is just lovely. When they are not fighting. But that comes later.

J is clearly going through a growth spurt. Woke at 3 and downed a 9 oz bottle in one! He looked very contented and did a proper man belch.

Both my girls gagged on mash. Still did until around a year.

I was chatting at the school gate this morning. I have left it far too long to introduce solids apparently. 4 months is when to do it, and I should take him down to Pizza Hut.

I was also about to say what luis said. I was so worried about not being able to love a second as much that I got quite stressed and worried in early pg. Dd and I have been through a lot together, I'm so proud of her and she feels so perfect to me that I just couldn't see how I could possibly feel the same for another. Since she rocked up she has turned my world on it's head and sometimes it feels like my heart is in her hands.

When I saw g on the scan for the first time I started to understand though I had another wobble when I found out he was a boy. I used to feel quite upset when people said 'how nice, one of each' (which they all seem to) because i wanted another identical to R! That seems so far away and implausible now. G is totally different to R but by some crazy biological magic I love him just as much, and I still feel the same about R as I always have done. And as luis says, seeing them together is wonderful. R has never been bothered about friends' babies but is crazy about G and looks out for him intently - even signing to tell me off if she thinks I am not being sufficiently attentive! They seem genuinely potty about eachother and I know will help each other learn and grow. The two of them and mr bry are my world and now I know there is enough love it feels like a drug, and a bit of me wants 7 or 8 of the critters. Mr bry is quite relieved I am getting too old and even stoops to reminding me of my stitches when he really panics!

yw if you are copying the leaflet for det is there any way I could also have a copy? Sorry to be a pain. I feel so lucky having you here as the quiche dairy free guru. Would have been lost without your advice.

Happy fucking Wednesday everyone. Luis, so sorry to hear your fucking cunting knees are so bad - you must be in a desperate state. Sending you sleep dust and analgesia.

lily hope you are getting on ok with your nappy plus. I keep meaning to pop on to fb and have a look but it is broken on my phone. R is at granny's in the morning so will try and take 5 to look on dh's iPad.

Enjoy the rest of the night all.

Izzy - have fun!

And vq - thank goodness for school gate advice! There was me thinking we'd be lost without yw as the quiche dietician. Turns out your school gate mums could fill the gap - phew!

And again

R has been sitting for a few minutes for about 10 days (tiny head) but needs close supervision because he loses concentration and face plants

Have a good holiday izzy

Shit night here. N is waking every 40 minutes or so cos she's all bunged up. DD1, not content with winding me up all day, decided to do it at night as well so woke both me and N up because she wanted 'Pig' and only shouting and screaming would get him, apparently. Pig was right next to her! I have caught their cold and my whole face hurts. When I get back home I'm handing the pair of them over to DP and going to bed for hours and hours.

Throughout my pregnancy with LO I felt terrible guilt towards DD1, convinced I was ruining her life by giving her a sibling. And I felt guilt towards unborn LO because I KNEW I could never love her as much as DD1, so it was unfair even bringing her into the world.

Well, I love them both, and DD1 has survived to tell the tale. Can't force them to be nice siblings who love each other, but for the moment they get on very well. Spending time with each of them individually is very special, wheas I feel that when they are both there we kind of muddle along. They're fab, wouldn't have it any other way now.

That said I wouldn't have any more.

kyz I wouldn't worry too much about LO not liking fruit as much as veg. It's not the end of the world if he does have a sweet tooth. It is possible that the new tastes and textures PLUS learning to eat is too much, so if he is OK with fruit then add veg more gradually. You could start by adding some carrot to pear etc. He doesn't know it's a weird conmbination, and if it tastes OK to you there's no reason not to give it.

Also he might be like LO: didn.t think much of veg until meat came into the picture, and now, though it is early days, that has happened veg must just be a nasty means to an end of getting the yummy meat.

I know I am going against all good advice about sweet stuff, and of course I wouldn't advise shoving lolliies and chocolate down him, but we're talking about fresh fruit. I have a sweet tooth and wouldn't eat any veg other than peas for years but I got there in the end kind of

Morning fuckers

On VQ's gate mums advice I'm off to Pizza Hut for breakfast. It might cheer grumpy up.

kyz honestly don't worry too much. It's all about learning. I think some babies, like people, are fussy eaters.

It horrifies me avocado is offered as a first veg lol I think it's vile!!

My mum's book from when i was a baby says both don't give sweet stuff, and banana/pear/apple are good first foods. I think "sweet stuff" means processed sugar rather than naturally occurring tastes that are sweet. Breast milk is incredibly sweet, after all! (don't know about formula?)

Morning.

What lovely reflections on having more than one child.

Sorry about defective sleepy dust pp. I will check for the receipt.

Poor p was a poo monster yesterday. She woke twice within half an hour last night having pooed. That took her daily total to 5! She did one in Aldi when I had already used my last nappy - thank goodness Aldi sell nappies! She seems fine in herself though so hopefully this passes.

yw I have the milk free weaning book as well. I was looking specifically for some recipe inspiration really - I have a wee book which is good but lots of the recipes seem to contain cheese.

Weirdly I have grown to love avocado. I used to hate it. When I was in Tanzania with school kids all the kids were eating avocado. An old man came up, gave them a telling off and gave me his to eat. I think he thought they had refused me some or wouldn't share. I tried to refuse but he wouldn't hear of it. I had to eat the whole slimy fucker with a big smile on my face.

P has been doing crunches constantly for months - I have no idea why she can't sit yet. It seems to be balance more than strength for her. Weirdly she now seems fairly contented just to roll around on the floor.