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November 2012 - In denial about the six-month sleep regression

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StuntNun · 02/05/2013 11:38

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1740697-November-2012-Starting-weaning-what-does-your-baby-eat

OP posts:

Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

TheDetective · 05/05/2013 18:41

O is pretty calm this evening. I am not holding out hope. But please let him just continue!

ChasingDaisy · 05/05/2013 18:54

Agh no time to catch up on thread today! Will post my news now and then catch up.

Had a nice day today. Went out for Sunday lunch with my Dad, Stepmum, Brother and Aunt & Uncle who were visiting from Yorkshire. O was his usual screaming self when held by anyone else but my family were awesome about it. My Aunt said that he's at the age where he has come out of his baby bubble and realises that every person is not mummy or daddy. She said she is sure it is just a faze. No judgey-ness to be seen. He did charm everyone by smiling and chatting from mine and P's laps. He had a taste of some parsnip too which he seemed to like.

They also bought a highchair and booster seat for O, donated by my cousin. O loves it! He looks so grown up He loves being able to see everything but ended up slumping to his right as usual as he got tired trying not to worry about this

He had dinner of a couple of mouthfuls of parsnip puree and a spoon of apple and blueberry puree for dinner.

He has been bloody awesome today. He was overtired at lunch but there were no meltdowns, other than clingy screaming and he smiled at the waitress and babbled and squealed away to himself.

My Aunt also gave me a bread maker so am excited to find out how to use it and start making my own bread again

I hope the quiche are well and I will catch up now.

Original poster

StuntNun · 05/05/2013 19:26

The beef was lovely by the way: tender and flavoursome with a truly awesome gravy. It was in the slow cooker for ten hours in total. It's nice to spend the day knowing your dinner is cooking away, I must use the slow cooker more often. J had a couple of green beans and a few bits of carrot to gum but I don't think he's quite got the hang of those food idea yet.

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PurplePidjin · 05/05/2013 19:27

Evening all i have nothing useful to say

ValiumQueen · 05/05/2013 19:33

I am drooling at the thought of that stunt!

Chasing glad you had a good day. About time you had a nice meal out x

BigPigLittlePig · 05/05/2013 19:36

Gaviscon duly dispensed, let's hope it gives F a bit of respite.

MILs little nugget today, to dp luckily for her - ""pig must start sharing F, she's made her into a really clingy baby". This alongside telling me that breast milk production cannot keep up with the demands of a baby greater than 12lbs, and that's why she doesn't sleep. Smile and nod

Clarella · 05/05/2013 19:37

woo hoo detective! that's fab !

really worried about a mate who had baby on Friday. they discharged before .he was properly latching and she really really wants to breast feed she knows it was silly. I've said - skin to skin, biological nursing, call helplines and call hospital for advice. .bf support is shit here (newcastle) but in sunderland amazing it seems. (our lll leader there and runs a tight ship) not sure what else to advise. her fil was there, farmer, and said yep just like t'sheep. which I agreed! Dh says don't go over top with advice but I know it's crucial to get them latching now? might it be too late?

left her with my 'food of love book' too. hope that doesn't make her upset as it does go on about how great bf is but also has amazing advice. wwyd?

Clarella · 05/05/2013 19:39

so gald you had a good day and decent opinions and advice chasing!

oooh stunt yuuuumy! might try that next wknd! we don't use our slow cooker enough for meat.

Clarella · 05/05/2013 19:41

quick q before I stop spamming the threaddetective and others battling reflex hell - are they more agitated and fussy when reflux playing up?

BigPigLittlePig · 05/05/2013 19:41

Clarella exactly what you have done. Will the mw be going to see her as well - could she ask for some help there? My community mw was amazing, and more useful than anyone I've seen before or after. Babies can always relearn their latch too, even if things do get off to a shaky start.

BigPigLittlePig · 05/05/2013 19:42

Clarella yes. In a word.

YellowWellies · 05/05/2013 19:57

Clarella fussy is one word for it. 'Total fucking screamy nightmares' is four

Had a wonderful day - started off with 1.5 hours of yoga - baby free! Then we went for a guided tour of the botanic gardens in Edinburgh in the sun. Jonas got to wear sunscreen for the first time ever it was that sunny. He charmed the old dear who was our guide and the others in the party with his grinning, giggling and babbling. Then DH has topped it all off by making roast belly pork. I nommed it listening to him bath the boy to gales of laughter. Am so lucky to have such gorgeous boys in my life. A really fucking good day

ChasingDaisy · 05/05/2013 19:58

Pig your MIL and mine should meet. I think they would get on well.

I think O and F are kindred spirits.

TheDetective · 05/05/2013 20:04

What YW said .

O didn't cry through dinner.

Clarella · 05/05/2013 20:38

bplp - I told them the mw can come and visit every day if you ask and to keep asking for help. I worry they won't get enough help to help lo learn to latch now (its really important to her she bfs) I know so much about bf I'd know what to do who to ask but it's hard to impose too much on newbies!

yes I think I meant screamy too certainly had my share of that, always with feeding. so many times he's been happy and quiet and I've seen cues for a feed or offered and 2 mins later I wished I'd never bothered. tt snip helped greatly as less air swallowing but issues still there. he's seemed calmer all round today (fed twice in car - calmly ) so wondering if the little we're getting into him has had a bit of an effect?

fx o is better detective and you have a better night. you too izzy and anyone else potentially having a tough one tonight.

ChasingDaisy · 05/05/2013 20:39

Finally caught up...

Sounds like some lovely days were had today. This makes me happy

VQ those were very wise words you spoke earlier about sleep. I try very hard to see things from O's point of view and I know it won't last forever. He has developed an awful lot over this last month, which I think accounts for a lot of his clinginess and I'm sure his brain must be working overtime. So I'm not surprised he can't switch off long enough to sleep for more than 4 hours at a time or wants cuddles at 5am.

Mrpig consider yourself duly slapped. Nobody had yet dared to boast of a good nights sleep in front of me. I will not be held responsible for my actions if they do.

Lily how are you getting on?

Luis how is your knee? Come out to play!

Clarella · 05/05/2013 20:43

wow what a lovely day yw! love the botanical gardens

we went and stood on a giant naked lady with limestone nipples and had an ice cream (northlandia)

dhs and partners first building under their new practice (2 and half years old) came second to it in a recent architecture awards thingy it's his partner who's had the little baby boy

Clarella · 05/05/2013 20:47

chasing I think they develop separation anxiety soon so maybe part of that? I know some don't like ww but the current phase is supposed to be to do with 'relationships' or distances ie where something is in relation to something else. so where mummy is (or isn't!)

ChasingDaisy · 05/05/2013 20:51

Clarella I quite like WW. It makes a lot of sense to me and sounds exactly like what O is going through at the moment. I'm not worried by it, other people's reactions just piss me off.

He is teeny tiny human being and the in-laws expect far too much of him.

I'm his mummy and it would be wrong if I wasn't the most important person in his life. I want him to have a strong bond with me and a secure base. That will make him more secure in the long run. Are you listening MILpig ?

PurplePidjin · 05/05/2013 20:54

Clarella slightly different scenario but I've had pretty much fuck all support other than lovely CC lady making calls. I would have massively appreciated someone turning up in the first few days after dp got out of hospital including my own mother and doing something practical to help. If your friend is truly a friend she will be pleased you care and tell you to butt out if necessary :)

BigPigLittlePig · 05/05/2013 20:56

Haha chasing I was just explaining the WW thing to dh with mil in mind Great minds, eh? I want to have an amazing relationship with my wonderful little daughter, I don't want to palm her off on to other people so why should I worry if she gets upset when she's not with me? I don't give a monkeys if people mil don't get cuddles with her. Tough!

YW I'm so glad you had a lovely day. And others too, it's amazing what the sunshine can do to lift the mood too.

LuisGarcia · 05/05/2013 20:59

Chasing "Come out to play!"

My knees are hurty. Really hurty.

However, we're changing the way L sleeps and prioritising my knees, so they aren't getting worse. I'm lurking again to try to catch up but have missed too much to post much. Sorry, everyone.

And your IL's are cretins, and you are a saint for letting them have so much contact with O.

BigPigLittlePig · 05/05/2013 21:07

Gah Fs up again. Within an hour, every evening, she wakes screaming as though she's in agony. Somethings not right bless her. I've given her some calpol to see if that helps.

Luis have some lovely manly - hope the knees pick up soon.

TheDetective · 05/05/2013 21:10

BP O does too. He's already woke up once. Some nights it is all fucking night. I don't know why. Calpol tried a few times here, and made no difference. :(

Some nights it is just one or two wake ups (for what??!) but others it can be 20.

Clarella · 05/05/2013 21:11

and pidj. yes you needed a lot more help than you got.

in all honesty I wanted un-swaddle over swaddled baby and rugby tackle her into bed with instructions that her Dh just fed and watered her while she fed and watered lo. think farmer fil had more sense thinking along the lambing scenario. but her Dh is my Dhs long term mate and now business partner, she's a good friend but not close although there's so much bonding us together. am going to offer to swing by on way to bbq tomorrow. I've sent far too many texts now

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