November 2012 - Starting weaning, what does your baby eat?

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YW I'm working on weaning myself down off them. I don't think I would stick to it cold turkey! I'd just cave completely.

When I last lost weight, it was reducing the amount I ate that worked. So I could still eat the things I liked. I am eating double the amount I was back then, easily double. Both in meal servings, and snacking.

I need to start off slowly and work up to it!

I feel better already, but I am still eating a massive amount . Work still to be done there...! Least it is relatively good stuff going in.

JJ I'd of gone nuts if they did that!! And said well if you want to have a screaming baby the whole flight, go ahead! Otherwise, I'll be taking my bag on!

detective when I do Slimming World, I use the syns to jazz up the free foods, like in a sauce, or for extra cheese or bread. It is easy to want to spend all syns on chocolate, but I find I do better if I cut it out completely. One small bit is never enough.

AIBU? The Vegan is still a Vegan and I am really upset about it. I feel like a single mother with a lodger. No more family meals, no more eating together, shopping is really hard, I have no enthusiasm to cook anything just for me, so am eating bland kids meals. The kids do not live on fish fingers or chicken nuggets, but they do not eat curry or chilli, and I enjoy cooking for my husband and eating with him. He was telling me last night why he is doing this, and I felt sick with some of the things he was telling me, but I need food to be an easy thing in this house. Life is fucking complicated enough as it is. He cannot even use the fucking soap or washing liquid apparently. I told him he has no choice! He says he will not throw away his shoes and buy plastic. His feet stink as it is, and he would be going barefoot as we do not have the money. I feel I do not know him any more. I have said I could cope with him going veggie, in fact I would willingly join him. I would also happily raise the kids veggie, but they would have the choice once they are old enough. I would also have the odd bacon sarnie if I wanted to.

VQ Just tell him he's having a midlife crisis? Expensive, but cheaper than a fucking sports car?!! I feel your pain. I stopped being veggie for the good of my family, because I was costing us more money, and ex and DS1 wanted meat. I still eat a very limited amount, but enough that we can cook meals together. I'm happy with chicken, and they are happy using veggie mince.

With the syns, I feel I'd rather eat free foods for meals and save them for little treats. I ate my milky car before, and ate it slowly, savouring the taste. I found I was satisfied when it finished. I don't think I've savoured the taste of anything for years! It made me appreciate it .

Now I am looking forward to my garlic mushroom tagliatelle for dinner.

If O lets me. Fucking hell, this afternoon he has been whingy and clingy. I plonked him in the jumperoo and went in the kitchen to do something. While I was out the room he was fine. Soon as I am back in it? WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGE.

Siiiiiiiiiiigh.

Fucking knobber. Worked out what was wrong with him.

He's got an ikea bib on after his last bottle. It has rubbed his neck and it is bright red, looks very sore.

Stupid me, and stupid bib. He's okay now it is off.

Det - yeah it all happened fast, delayed flight, thought we were going to be called to board first but ended up in a scrum (not even Ryanair!), if I'd thought for a sec I'd have said no, take someone else's bag & make room for my baby! We did have changing bag so few nappies & wipes. L screamed all the way anyway so it was a stressful journey and I just knew when we arrived that the bag hadn't. Ah well. Lesson learned: return journey we spread our packing, sat like hawks by the gate, Calpoled L, and of course everything went perfectly smoothly!

VQ you are not being unreasonable AT ALL. Veggie is a good compromise but it's kind of beside the point, he is part of a family, not operating alone. You talk about these things reasonably, work out how to make it work without disruption. What sort of message does it give to your kids if he shows no respect for you?

yanbu VQ!!!!! I'd be going potty! it's a self centered teenage effort imo when he could be doing so much more if he wanted to be radical. veggi I get but vegan - for a start we need bees to pollinate crops. the whole of society would crumble if it weren't for the honey industry. if I was going to make a change I'd try and get local food etc (pricey but possible) probably eat a lot less meat BUT make a point of eating local veal as the millions of wasted male calves could generate struggling farmers with extra income. the dairy industry is there to stay so may as well make it a little more ethical.
I bet he doesn't last. I do feel though on a serious note he's not seeing the impact on you struggling with the children and your lo's reflux etc. I can see that lack of support could really drag you down .

went swimming. took nipple cream. left nipple cream. phoned up to describe to spotty teen about left nipple cream. spotted nipple cream spinning in washing machine with towels

reflux people - does incessant dribble make it worse? just tried to put lo down after big feed, he'd burped but is very sleepy. he's been quite fussy if lying down today and very hiccupy. after a couple of mins down he started crying, completely rigid etc. wouldn't settle in my arms, or in our bed but is sparko on my pillow. not sure what to do.

there's been a bit of being sick with clear liquid today too.

Gosh, puree making is a faff isnt it?! Has kept me occupied all day. Time to settle down with a cuppa and catch up with Fred...

Clarella not sure but if dribble is teething related then yes, as teething makes reflux worse as it makes the stomach more acidic. Marvellous . I think its possibly a factor with shit nights here of late.

Anyone else feel like Russian roulette when putting their wee one down for the night after a run of shit nights? I've had a glass of granache with my name on it for nearly a week but daren't touch it as I can't be sure I won't be feeding him soon after

VQ YANBU DH has just cooked kedgeree for tea (made with Arbroath smokies nom nom) and it made me think that if he'd gone vegan (hell will freeze over before he gives up seafood) it would suck that he couldn't cook a family meal of my favourite dishes. I think it creates a division in the family when you can't cook and eat together - sorry if that sounds overly dramatic! You know what I mean....

Det good call on the portion sizes, that and too much bread and crisps, choc, cakes and puddings generally have always been my downfall.

VQ YANBU and this sounds like a mid life crisis. You should bollock him or get one of his friends to talk some sense into him. There are great vegan diets but I'd be unsure about imposing them on kids. Besides, now is not the time, life is stressful enough.

clarella the dribble can be acid actually. Dribbles can indicate excess acid.

I used to be a champion weight watcher. I loved it actually. I need to rechannel that because I am sick of looking at myself. I made WW a way of life and did it without actually counting points for years and years. My portions were smaller, I would leave the bun of burgers, I simply wouldn't have dreamt of eating a chocolate bar. I feel furious at myself that I have actually got into the habit of buying chocolate bars as I neither want or need them.

VQ honestly? Honestly? I would be shitting angry with him. He is not a 15 year old with no responsibility to anyone else but a grown man with children and a wife! I understand that the meat production industry can be vile but he worked in an abattoir some years ago so why the sudden crisis of conscience now? There are other, much more valuable thing he could do which would not impact on his family quite so much. At the absolute least my compromise for him would be that he must cook 50% of the family meals every week. This includes providing lunches for the girls if necessary. He cannot simply act with impunity - he is 50% of a team so he must act it.

Won't J take a bottle of EBM YW? I had half a bottle a little wine on Wednesday and my J woke unexpectedly for a feed so DH had to give him a bottle while I went to bed. So worth it!

Other bf-ers does your LO wriggle while you're feeding? I usually feed J lying down and right now he's kicking his legs, pushing himself up the bed and flailing around with his free arm.

Think I have managed to catch up, but have of course now forgotten everything I wanted to say.

Ok, Erm...

VQ everyone has already said what I was thinking much more eloquently than I ever could. But yes, sounds like a midlife crisis.

Pig I don't think I ever successfully managed to give my cats tablets. They just know that you have put something in their food, even if they don't see you do it. My cat used to lick around the crushed up tablets

Detective I love the descriptions of your O. He sounds like such a character.

fruit I feel the same way you do, I am not career minded in the slightest. I have realised since having O that my vocation is actually to be a mummy. Cheesy but true. I would be a SAHM if I could but financially I will need to work a few days a week.

Not a terrible last night, worse than some of yours but better than others so I won't complain.

O has been completely wonderful lately. He has changed so much in the past few weeks. It is like he is suddenly seeing the world differently and interacts with it more. This has also led to more clinginess and whinging at times but most of the time he is an absolute joy. You can really see his personality coming through. He finds the most random things funny and gets very demanding about food. I think he is going to be an absolute livewire. Can see myself having my hands full with him.

Totally russian roulette YW! Every nap time feels like it too!

DP is struggling haha! He's come home and looks like a small gust of wind would knock him over.

Oh dear! DP's eating habits are waaaaaaaaaaay worse than mine, so it is going to hit him hard. He thought nothing of making a bacon butty once with a whole pack of streaky bacon on. Plus sauce etc. Urghhhhh.

I'm so glad O is in bed now. This afternoon has been hard going.

Confession time! In order to do any housework only the urgent shit mind! I put the hoover on. O loves to sit in the highchair and listen to it. I can get half an hours jobs done on a good day .

What other things do you resort to just to eat/shit/clean/shower/whatever?!

Clarella was the watery vomit before or after swimming?

clarella J drools excessively when his reflux is playing up, and when he is settled, he drools much less. No sign of teeth yet here.

I did tell DH he was having a midlife crisis, and he said it was cheaper than a motorbike. I get the ethical thing, but I do not have the time or the finances to be ethical about everything that is wrong in this world. I have enough on my plate as it is with caring for my three. You are not being over-dramatic YW It is a very emotional thing. Usually we sit down, with Jacob too, and say grace before eating as a family. Now it is me and the kids eating in the lounge (at their play table) as I cannot bear to sit at the table with just us. My birthday cake - nobody sang happy birthday as it was just me and the kids. I know I am 44 but that fucking hurt. I said to him that it is like him saying he is changing religion. He has a separate cupboard, separate shelf in the fridge, twice as many fucking pots to wash. It is bound to be more expensive. I do not have a right to tell him what he can and cannot eat, but it has come out of nowhere. Sorry, but I am really upset about this, and writing it down here helps

J has had two doses of Ranitadine now, and seems fine on it. Possibly a bit more windy, but he is the king of wind anyway. The cream is doing wonders for his skin too. We all went to the park today and there was glass everywhere. I picked up loads, but was really worried about letting the girls run around. Thankfully no injuries, and no punctures.

stunt when feeding J boob or regular formula he would make like an epileptic octopus. Now he is on the right formula, and appropriately medicated for the reflux, he is as calm as a very calm thing. If he has a bit of wind he hits the bottle with his fist and I burp him, then he resumes as calm as before. So, is it wind or tummy pains perhaps?

Thank you for the feedback about DH. I was wondering if I had a bit of PND going on, and over-reacting.

I'd never put 2+2 together about the drool. But now it is mentioned - duuuuh! Yes, O drools more when his reflux is worse!

Damn. Have found a tick embedded in my cat's neck. I did the sodding treatment just last week. Sodding pets. Never again once this lot have gone to the happy farm for cats and dogs.

Not surprised you are upset VQ I'd be fucking furious. But it has only been a couple of weeks. Maybe he'll snap out of it.

In the meantime his behaviour is not helping you. I don't know what to advise but have some and I will sing happy birthday to you with DD1 in June. Loudly and out of tune. In public. And Detective will do too. Won't you Detective?

Thank you pr

NEWS FLASH normal carnivorous piggery has returned to Valium Palace. We have had a good talk, and he popped out for a bit of air. He is frightened for his health, and is panicking. We have agreed to look at our family diet and see how we can introduce healthier things gradually. He is very sorry for his behaviour. Thank fuck!

Always. You can count on me to make a tit of myself in public .

THANK FUCK VQ!!!

We are doing the family diet thing too. DS1 hates me.

Can you do something like what we do?

We use quorn well asdas cheaper own brand instead of mince, and chicken for our meals. Vege mince is healthier, and chicken is fine depending how you cook it obviously!

Works well for us!

VQ I would be beyond raging. In fact, that is just the sort of stupid stunt my idiotic manchild would pull. Can you compromise at all? After the horsemeat scandal and months of being pissed off with overpriced crap supermarket meat we now buy 99% of our meat from the local farmshop. The farm the animals are raised on is a stone's throw away and the farmer himself sells us the meat. DP dives or fishes for most of our seafood too. By buying all of our domestic items from asda/aldi and our meat this way, our weekly food shop is actually marginally cheaper. Or it would be if I wasn't drawn to the delish cheese counter and homemade fudge stalls every time we go . Would he change his outlook if he knew where his meat was coming from?

If you were to listen to my MIL, I am DP's midlife crisis...