November 2012 - Starting weaning, what does your baby eat?

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Calpol did not help last night. Still up at 11.30, 3, 4.30, 5.15 (to play, wtf?). Also didn't help that the cat was feeling quite lively overnight, and alternated between humping/attacking my leg. Surely that can't be good for his stitches? Little sod is now resolutely refusing to eat his food because I've crunched his tablets up into it . So between a baby feeding like a newborn, and a cat who needs feeding hourly, I'm a bit sleepy today.

clarella when F was up hourly, it was due to reflux - now that's sorted, she's up 2 or 3 hourly. Am yet to find the explanation for that. THIS TOO WILL PASS soon please

dicks glad to hear LO back to her usual self so quickly, they're tough little cookies.

It will pass. J was an hourly boy, and slept through last night from 8-6.30. He does this 2 or 3 nights a week, and wakes once on the other nights, usually around 4.30. It will pass x

clarella best get things checked.

detective I fell off that Fred after a week, and am not ready to rejoin, so no idea, sorry

yes I will - he's got kidney scan on 10th may anyway and they won't mind another check incase. in between sleeps he's a happy chappy though so prob just normal fucking regression

the number of people who say 'ooh he's very alert'.... I guess he's processing it all at night. alert = handful in my mind

Arghh I?m going to be naughty and write a ?help me? post without catching up on the rest of the thread.

It seems that after giving birth, as well as losing a few brain cells and forgetting things, it has also rendered me incapable of making a decision and planning holiday packing without stressing out.
I?ve got a few questions/worries if anyone would care to help me and stop me stressing out. I?m trying to pack for our holiday next Saturday but keep thinking I?ll pack too much or not have enough, or completely forget things.

We?re going to Majorca, temperatures at the moment are 20?C during the day, mid teens in the evening and early teens later at night. We get 20kg luggage each and 10kg for M, it can be pooled but no bag more than 23kg. So??
? What bags should I take? I was thinking of taking two suitcases up to 23kg rather than three bags, either that or two suitcases and then a holdall with just nappies in which can be folded and packed on the way home.
? A fried has recommended stashing the nappies in the buggy bag that we give them at the gate, then they won?t be counted in our weight. Has anyone done this? It sounds a good idea but I don?t want to get caught out and lose a pack of nappies.
? What the hell do I pack for M to wear? During the day we?ve got a UV suit, a couple of romper things, a couple of sundresses (?) or just short sleeve or sleeveless vests? What about evenings? I?d thought about taking dresses that could be worn with tights/leggings if it was a bit cold. All her t-shirts are long sleeved at the moment but I could buy a couple of short sleeve incase it?s warm.
? What should I pack for M to sleep in? At the moment she?s wearing long sleeve vest, babygrow and 2.5tog sleeping bag. I presume this will be too warm although we?ll have aircon. I?ve got a couple of one tog sleeping bags? A long sleeve vest on its own? A babygrow on its own? A shortsleeve vest?
? What the hell should I pack to wear myself in the evenings? I?m used to hotter holidays where I wear a dress/leggings but dresses are out for breastfeeding. Would I be ok with a couple of pairs of skinny jeans and a couple of tops do you reckon?

Sorry for the ridiculous questions. I make a list but then keep thinking but what if it?s hotter I?ll need?., but then what if it?s cold and rainy I?ll need?., what if M throws up all over her clothes whill I have enough outfits

fuck it I'm going to accept invite to see Eddie izzard next sat night

does everyone else generally have 3 full ikea bags of washing at any one time?

woah fatima! haven't a clue am afraid, the thought of travelling further than middlesborough gives me the sweats at mo!

Ok fatima will try and help a bit...

Nappies you can buy out there...most of Europe have pampers! Just take what you need for the flight.

In terms of clothes for M. You will need 1tog bags and then I put LO in vest and romper...meant I could strip if too hot but was more than just vest.

Do you wave ability to wash? I found the best advice was take six outfits and 6 vests...gives you enough to rinse through and means you don't pack too much. Always take 3 hats was the other piece, your bound to lose one and then having no spare is not good.

I'll try and answer some of it!

We went to Turkey 2 years ago at the start of May. You will need warm clothes for the evening, I promise you! A coat (light weight would be okay) on top of skinnies and a tshirt definitely! I was freezing in summer dresses and cardigans .

For M I would go with the rompers and UV suits for the day, with some cardigans if the sun goes behind clouds. At night I'd put her in just a short sleeve vest, with a 1 tog sleeping bag. If it is cooler than that, put her in just a baby grow with a 1 tog sleeping bag. O often just sleeps in a vest, or just a babygrow now can't keep up with the fucking washing!!. For the evenings when you are out, I'd put her in a babygrow or dress with tights and a cardi. Basically, what you would put her in in the UK during the day at this time of year, as that is what the evenings will feel like over there.

What are you planning on doing? Days out? Just staying around the pool?

I'd go with the 2 suitcases and a hold all. Have you got luggage scales? If not, i'll bring you mine next week at TC if you want?

I wouldn't put the nappies in the buggy bag. The way we were searched it wouldn't have worked. Shame really. But we got a million and one questions about the sodding bag! You could buy them after you've been through security and put them in that way. But to be honest, I'd just put them in your case. Less hassle.

Remember you have allowance in your hand luggage too.

Is that any help?!

See I'd take a hell of a lot more clothes for O, but he is a vommer! If he wasn't, I'd take 2 changes per day.

Managed to catch up

Wanna Good luck with the interview
BPLP Sympathies with the randy cat and hourly waking, M seems to be coming out the other side of it and is starting to sleep a bit longer than 2-3 hours so there is hope.
Detective I hope you're saving some syns for friday
Dicks Glad the laser op went well
(((Hugs))) for the rest of the non-sleeping, poorly and ratty babies

DH has gone off to cricket but the weather doesn't look the best so don't know what to do with ourselves

Clarella Tell me about it, i'm normally good at being organised and minimal packing. Not anymore it seems

Thanks for the advice pikz I think I will put her in babygrows, she sleeps better when warmer and like you say I can always take them off. I was going to take a bit of washing liquid and some pegs so I can wash and hang out if I need to.

Sun hats, that's one thing we haven't got yet. They're on my list to buy this week

Thanks Detective Knew I could count on you
That's what I was thinking for the evenings, what we're currently wearing during the day here, so babygrows or dress and leggings for M, Jeans/top/cardi combo for me
If I could borrow you luggage scales that would be fab, I was just thinking about where I could buy some from.

I've got the pampers baby dry to test for mumsnet so we were going to take them with us. I'll just pop them in the luggage rather than risk it.

Hand luggage allowance? Do we?

Yes I am Fatima!! I will need to find out how to find out how many syns are in the shit stuff I want to eat when out!

I'll bring them! Remind me! And I'll tell you how to use them so you can practice how strong you are on them childishly!!.

Don't let me forget!!!!

Definitely take light weight coats for all of you! You will regret it if you don't I did!.

Who are you flying with? They should tell you what the allowance is? For us when it was a package holiday it was 5kg each. When we went by EJ it was one bag but no weight restriction. That helps!

Fatima, my advice:

Buy nappies there, plenty of shops, will be the same price as here. Buy sun cream at the airport too. Watch for hand luggage as some airline checks the size.
Sleeping bag: 1 tog with a vest. It will be enough, 2.5 togs is too warm.

We never checked in luggages but do now with O as I can't handle the suitcase with her. Plan what you are going to wear and mix and match. Vests will dry overnight. Take a cardie and tights/ trousers for evening with long sleeve shirts. Don't bother with coat. And take a scarf, will keep you warm. As for baby, a cardie and blanket is a must preferably with hood. Also don't forget sunglasses, o already wears hers. Don't forget that 20 degrees with su n will feel warm during the day but cool in the evening.

Thanks Lily I was just going to buy nappies there but MIL bought loads of nappies on offer so we've got a cupboard full
Saw some baby sunglasses in boots so I might get them this week.

I've just sorted my clothes out for going, my bikinis don't fit Bloody humongous baby boobs! I used to have to buy bigger sized tops and tie the back to fit my boobs in but even the collection of size 14 tops I have upstairs are too small. I might squash in to two of them if I feed beforehand.
Had myself fitted for a new nursing bra at Bravissimo on Thurs and i'm 30GG so i've gone down a back size since having M and gone up a fair few cup sizes. Just looked how much a bikini from there costs and it's over £50!!

I think i'll just have to wear vest tops and then my tankini for swimming

Re. baby sunglasses, we got some Baby Banz as a free gift and I dug them out last week as L was squinting in the sun. Turns out they send him right off to sleep after a bit of initial squawking so maybe something to try for the non-nappers too.

Impressed with the dieting efforts, I need to get my massive arse in gear.

I was going to suggest a tankini for swimming!

I wore a loose short dress thing over my costume in the day, I forget what they are called now. But you get them in the holiday clothes sections!

I tried to get O to self settle for his nap. It almost worked. But I gave in after 15 minutes and he went quickly once I picked him up.

He used to do it. But not since being in the cot. Boooo!

Oh and Fatima my top tip for travelling is spread things out between your luggage. We had all L's stuff in one case and our stuff in another. Guess what? Only one case arrived and it did not contain baby clothes. Fortunately we were only in Dublin and the airline sent it on the next flight so we had it a few hours later but next time I will be making sure there is a better spread!

O drained his 8oz bottle this afternoon and when it was gone, he grabbed it off me, and shoved it back in his mouth looking for more.

He didn't cry when I took it back off him, but clearly he wanted some more. I really don't want to have to make 9oz bottles because of the Gaviscon. Damn it!

I'm really surprised at how he is guzzling the bottles now he is weaning. Given his indifference to it since 10 weeks, it is like he is able to enjoy feeding finally again.

He's taking 36-40oz plus 2x70ml purees a day. This is the child who would live happily with 20oz a day just a week ago.

He is now in much more of a routine too, since solids started he has improved in the night, so his first bottle of the day is between 6-7, and then 10-10.30, 1.30-2, 5-5.30, and bedtime one at 7.30. I'm guessing as he starts taking more food he will eventually drop the 10 oclock one, and bring the 1.30 forward to nearer lunch. Does that sound about right?

Have given him his food before a bottle. So this morning was at 10, and I'll give him some more if he wants it at 5 before his next bottle. I tried giving it after but he wasn't interested. He finishes a bottle pretty much when I give food then milk, so will keep doing that for now.

Ah see my tip is this: take in your hand luggage anything you can not buy while away and would ruin your holiday without. For me it was my contact lenses, straighteners, and my most flattering costume! I would take one outfit each in hand luggage, so you at least have a change of clothes should a bag go missing!

I like to be overprepared!

Det the problem was we did just that: all the baby stuff bar liquids was in the hand luggage. Unfortunately the plane was overcrowded and they took our bag to put in the hold. Or rather, leave at the gate.

Oh God JJ my worst nightmare. I normally take an outfit each in hand luggage but don't know how much space i'll have with nappies etc.

Definitely taking a spare top for me. M has turned into a vom-aholic at the moment.
Can't remember if I said but we went to Leeds on the train shopping with my mum on thursday, first thing we did was go for a coffee so I could feed M. She had a feed then decided to be nosey, pulling muslin off and showing the world my boob. Winded her and she did the biggest vom ever, all over my jeans! The was a big patch on both thighs and when I looked a pile on the floor too, it looked like twice the amount she'd have managed to eat in the time she was feeding. I thought I was going to have to go buy new jeans but I just put up with it and luckily it dried fine.
Then yesterday she fed, winded her with a muslin to catch any sick. What does she do but turn her head sideway and vom. It was all over my leg again, not a drop on her. And we have a leather sofa so it pooled and ran round underneath my leg

Detective I thought about taking my GHDs in my hand luggage, but I might take my old cheapo straighteners instead, although they're not as good

Rant alert

Just been to make some food and the fridge is full of veg and stuff. We did a bit shop on Monday, I suggested meal planning DH said no we'll do a big shop. Ended up having tea at my mums tuesday, he went to his mums on thursday and last night we had takeaway at my sister. He's at cricket today and tomorrow so no meal then. Monday night we're swimming til 7 so probably won't have time for a big meal, then cricket tuesday and he's said we'll go to his mums thursday even though I want to do last minute packing etc
So when the frick are we going to eat all this fresh stuff?! Might have to do some slow cooker recipes or take some to my sisters and cook them a meal tomorrow. Bloody cricket!!

Oh and while we're on food. On Monday he insisted on getting some bagels that we're on offer. Two packets - one cinnamon and rain, one tiger bread. Weds we went to the local shop for milk and he said "shall I get some bread". I said "no, they bagels you wanted need eating first.
He had soup yesterday, just looked there's a loaf of bread in the kitchen that he bought to go with it. The bagels are still untouched
So out of 8 bagels he wanted to buy, there's 5 still in the bread bin, I've eaten 3 and he's had none.
Does he think i've got endless money to buy bagels just to go sodding mouldy

And to make it worse, i've just cut my thumb on the bread knife cutting a fucking bagels

fatima I swear my DH goes looking for stuff that is already out of date, but not reduced. The number of times I have thrown stuff in the freezer or bin as soon as he gets in. Two boxes of frubes to be used that day, for example. Can you freeze anything? Or make soup and freeze?

Det next time I go on holiday I'm kidnapping you to pack for me.

Good luck for the diet - I'm not sure if the thread is still going. I'm losing 2lb a week dairy free but not really dieting (actually under instruction to up my fat intake from mayo, avocado and meat now I can't have fun foods) so it wasn't entirely appropriate.

One thing I would advise from shifting a quarter of my bodyweight a few years ago - stop focussing on treat foods and foods you can't have as that can create a scarcity mentality (which is where I am re dairy ATM and its a massive trap re weight loss or quitting smoking).

Focus instead on the new foods you're enjoying and achieving your goals. We used to chart weekly weight loss on the kitchen blackboard.

Also chocolate and crisps and sugary drinks are addictive - rather than keeping them as daily treats (and thus keeping your body hooked) try and see if you can go cold turkey until the weekends - you'll feel the difference. Eating chocolate and crisps every day just doesn't fit with being slim. Admittedly at the mo I'd trade a limb for them

Shit night, but mildly less shit 9-1, 2-5, 5.30 - 7.30. DH god love him is letting me have both sleep ins this weekend. Its clearly not food now as DS's been off solids since Monday. He's a bit sniffly, there is teething going on and boy is he windy- but I think it must also be developmental - he's changed so much in the last couple of weeks. Dietician also thinks he might need domperidone to cope with solids. Sigh it'll pass eh?......