November 2012 - The new quiche sleepy dust crop-sprayer plane seems to be working

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1725957-November-2012-Poor-sleep-deprived-mummies-and-daddy

Not caught up but a brief update. Very thankful that DS appears to just have waxy ears and not an infection :)

That's great news chicken

good luck at the dentist vq never fun to wait for something horrible like an extraction.

That was brutal. Poor kid. Horrid

PUPD was not done with a supportive audience. MIL had a chorus of "leave her to cry" (shouted over hysterical bellows), "when are you going to give her a bottle?", "she's doing it for attention", "you won't be able to manage when you're back at work like this" etc etc.

bp did you smack her in the chops?

Oh God Pig I'd like to say I'd have told her where to shove it but I am pretty good at keeping my temper when my MIL is around. Takes a superhuman effort. I bet she complained about her MIL back in the day so you'd think they would learn to butt the fuck out.

BPLP next time say 'Funny, she only behaves like this when you're around. Perhaps if you went home...?'

The thing is, it's all well meaning or genuine curiosity. Just not very well timed. VQ having read dh the riot act after his recent chop-smacking incident, on this occasion no chops were injured.

Your dd and you are brave women vq - I HATE the dentist.

pig boo to unsupportive MILs. Pass yours sounds ace.

Poor Valiumprincess, hope she recovers quickly.

Detective that is the very definition of a shit night. Is it any consolation that you know what causes it and therefore how to prevent it happening again? No? Thought not MrDetective if you are lurking, then consider yourself told off. And stop lurking

I think there is a window of time when people understand what you are going through. Pre-baby people can be sympathetic but won't genuinely understand. Too far post-baby and they forget everything. Thankfully MIL has forgotten everything she did and therefore behaves like I have mystical powers! It must be incredibly draining to have one who constantly offers helpful 'suggestions'

Poor, poor sausage VQ.

I love mama's suggestion!

Another favourite - "is she still timid?"
She's a baby. Babies jump at loud noises, and cry when they get scared. It doesn't mean they are fucking timid.

:o

I get lots of this that and t'other isn't normal. If they are slightly warm it's a fever, if they hurt themselves they need to go to hospital for an x ray. Real munchausens nightmare.

PR I'd kill the fucker!

Mine is great. Am very lucky. She hated me at first - before she knew me . I stole her baby.

Took some time, but she got over it, realised we are very similar, and now I'm pretty sure she actually likes me! I am also very lucky in that no one has ever offered advice or critisism of my parenting. Possibly the fact that they don't dare . I'd give a very colourful reply if they did!

Even with DS1, I was lucky in that both sets of parents, and family left me to it.

About to do bed time here. Wish me luck! I'll need it! O seems very unsettled today :( Not sure if it is because of last night guilt guilt guilt or it is reflux, as he isn't appreciating being put down. Anywhere. He wants entertainment galore.

Talking of MIL's, mine is having O on saturday. Not only is she having a little refluxy monster, she is having her other grandson who is 6 months older. And the 5 year old grandson. Please tell me that she isn't normal?! She is extremely excited about this! And booked the week off work when I even asked if she might be off this particular saturday!!

Chasing I wanted to say earlier - do you fancy a trip to chez Detective some time?! It is reasonably ok on the train, I've done it once with a baby in pram plus a suitcase!

I'll PM you!

Wow, PUPD with audiences - brave peeps.

Poor DD VQ

detective wishing you a much better night tonight.

Well, everyone survived today. DS apparently managed 4.5 hours between bottles and slept 1.5 hours longer than usual, including a 3 hour nap in the middle of the day. At home, we consider 2 hours between feeds an appropriate gap, and naps are a strictly 45 minute affair. However, he went to bed as usual, so if tonight is ok, will put that down to all the extra stimulation today.

When they got home, DS was giggling like mad at DD pretending to be a dinosaur at him. She walks up to him and "roars". Doesn't matter what she does to him, he absolutely adores her. Must save this memory for when they're fighting in the future

Mine liked me til I had DD1 and she realised I wasn't stressed enough about feeding, illness or childcare in general.

You mean ds doesn't cry at dd madam? Because that is what would happen in our house. Because my baby is timid

I need to let it go now. Deep breaths.

In other news, my friend , K rang the swimming pool to book in to tomorrows aqua-aerobics class. It turns out that this is deep water aerobics (in more ways than one). This is roughly the conversation that was had.

K - "I'm not a good swimmer, will I sink?"
Lady - "no, they strap floats around your tummy."
K - " I weigh 15.5 stone, will they still work?"
Lady - "Yes. You haven't been to this class before, have you?"
K - "No"
Lady - "You'll be just fine"
K - "Are you sure?"
Lady - "Well, we do usually recommend you start with shallow water aerobics first. But you'll be absolutely fine"

I'm fucked, aren't I?

My in-law issues are complicated by the fact that OH's sister had a baby two weeks before O was born and we have very different parenting styles. SIL uses her baby to show off.

They started weaning at 17 weeks on the dot - he is now 21 weeks and has already eaten chocolate biscuits He is very much treated like an adult rather than a little baby and they don't seem to take his needs into account. When we were both at dinner a couple of weeks ago, both babies were overtired - we put O down for a nap but his cousin was made to stay up and entertain the masses. I feel sorry for the poor boy. O is very much seen as the boring baby in comparison and me as the overprotective parent.

Fuck 'em chasing
Bet the "lively" baby gave them a jolly lively meltdown when they got home.

pig I'm sure he did. But SIL would never admit to that. He is a perfect baby.

Ha BPLP, no, he doesn't cry at that, mainly because that is DD being nice to him. He cries when she lies on top of him to cuddle him, or presses her cheek against him violently (but sort of affectionately), or when she forces her arm into his mouth and then pinches him because "Seth is biting my". So it's all relative. Don't worry about the "timid" comment, just think of a retort. Make reference to some study that states that quiet babies almost always turn out to be geniuses. Tru-fact.

Chasing I know a baby like that, where comparison puts me in a snobby, over-protective light. Complicated but my DSis's bf's brother's baby was weaned at 16 weeks, "because that's what [mum's] family do". He was given a chocolate to suck on at 17 weeks, and I was roundly jeered at by refusing on behalf of DS. Breathe, and ignore.

Got to love a mil. Mine doesn't understand why he is brought up by a houseboy, left with a bottle in his cot to drink when he feels like it, fed solids at 6 weeks or cuddled when he should just be put down. I should just leave him to cry and he definitely should have been put in a cot in his own room week one.

I am too mothering, I should have stopped bf at 1 week and I am too controlling as I wouldn't leave him for a night at 2 weeks old.

When LO was hospitalised at just under a month with fever mine said you see there was no point in doing all that bf'ing was there it didn't protect her at all.

All that bf'ing? Once the colostrum was gone I mixed until I ran out of milk all of two weeks later. Yeah I really did bf far too much