November 2012 - Will the Easter Bunny visit our babies?

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Just checked LO Toomany, think we might have lip tie too she doesn't have any problems feeding tho?

Just googled a image of lip tie and yes we do have it have you taken B to the GP about it or are you just going to go straight to a private clinic about it?

chasing it is fine for babies to chew toys, you are right taste and touch is how they investigate stuff. Must keep toys washed because of this.

Not sure about the ear gunk pr it might just be built up from a cold. Or even birth I suppose. I was heartened with what you said about not cleaning ears I don't touch them at all other than a slice in the bath. I have noticed that the ear balls up the wax and expels it itself and you find little clumps on the bed. I assume this is it doing it's job. I cleaned DD1s ears and we had terrible ear problems, don't know if they are related or not but I steer well clear now.

Definately not a slice! A sluce.

Someone please tell me sleep regression peaks at 5 nights?! Not sure how I can function as a human being with many more nights of this. to all others who are going through this, especially Contra, how are you doing today?

She didn't sleep more than 2 hours at a time last night again, and was awake 1.15-3.15 because I was determined to get her to sleep in her cot and she just cried every time I put her down, yet when I pick her back up she's fast asleep on me in 3 seconds. In the end I fed her lying down in bed until she dropped off and then kind of scooped her up and transferred her.

DP even go up to help which never happens and as a result overslept this morning. Cue panic at 8.50 when he woke up and should have been at work at 7.30. Oops.

The time spent staring at my bedroom curtains last night led me to think of PR and your spiders, has the invasion stopped?!

Oh yeah, in the individual bags like Mum used to make I brought them during a nostalgic moment in Tesco a couple of weeks ago.

J has done a lot of ear tugging/rubbing and he's just got a tiny corner of tooth poking through :)

Bloody hell.

You know I trout O just didn't like milk. Had problems latching on to me when I tried breast feeding and sometimes looks like he struggles to latch onto the bottle. Looks to me like a lip tie. The skinny tissue goes from his lip and is attached the the full death of the gum. Is that it? Is that not normal?

PR sluice ears gently in the bath. Put a couple of drops of olive oil into the ear to loosen any dried on stuff. Don't put anything into the ear canal obviously but you can clean the outside part of the ear with a bud or a facecloth or a tissue.

Could this be because the paed cleaned them yesterday so has dislodged gunk? Seriously there is masses of it. You know when a toddler has a really snotty nose and it dries right roundtheir nose? It's like that round the ear.

Bt she was in pain again by 9am wheas this morning she was much better. I AM SO FUCKING SICK OF MY CHILDREN's BUG AND PAIN AND ILLNESSES. Yes, I am shouting.

We didn't have major problems kissy, poor latch on first week and bleeding nipples but than no pain at all. B has never opened her mouth very wide to feed and makes a clicking noise when she sucks, this causes her to gulp air so she burps and pukes a lot. She's really happy and sleeps well so I thought nothing of it. It was the green poo that brought me to this, she doesn't stay on the breast long enough, constantly comes on and off so wasn't getting enought hind milk.

I asked the HV to watch her feed, she called the specialist and got a referral yesterday. We may go private though because they often won't snip lips on the NHS.

Sounds like in sophia

toomany I checked O's lip whe you mentioned his the other day and she has lip tie :( it explains why she's always taken forever to have a bottle and becomes exhausted/falls asleep after a couple of ounces and is sick a fair bit. She's bottle fed, not sure they will do anything? In the past week her feeding has slowly declined to the point where over the past day or so she has barely had 600ml. Not sure if she's dropping because she can no longer be bothered with the stress of feeding, whether its because she has started having a bit of purée or whether she's picked up this cold me and dp have had Poor baby :(

Oh dear sounds like a few of our LO's could have lip tie
Thanks Toomany I will make an appt with GP. Still waiting for a call from HV about something else so will ask her too.

oh pennie so good to hear there is a light at the end of the tunnel ... just 3 more weeks ...

Lip tie here too which was spotted on the island when they cut his tongue tie - its not caused us any latch issues or pain though so I think they come in varying degrees of severity.

Morning Cuntworms large and small

Not caught up, but...

dicks I LOVE YOU! Fucking lip tie here. Looks like a bad one. Explains everything. Why the fuck did they not pick this up? He was in hospital for poor weight gain ffs! I am actually fucking fuming, but so grateful to you dicks x

I can't believe they don't check for it routinely. Apparently most babies with lip tie also have a posterior tt as well. It's worth looking into it through YW as it can cause dental problems in the future. There's a holistic dentist in Huddersfiled who is a specialist in using a laser to treat them. I'm going to take her there as people travel from all over the uk to see him and I live pretty close.

I thought J might have one VQ, everything I've read this last few days described your problems.

clarella and I have a thread on the feeding section about this with lots of links. It's called something like upper lip tie/ Possible tongue tie little pain. I can't link on iPad.

DD1 had lip tie. It sorted itself a little as the teeth came down but they have a slight gap as milk teeth often do. No-one seems concerned about it.

We are in the middle of a 19 weeks, all its glory regression. or teeth. or both. I don't what what the motherfuck we're in the middle of. She screams herself silly when put in cot. SHe screams herself silly when put for a nap. She is tired but will not sleep. It is, quite literally, like she is two months old again. the familiarity is what is so depressing. Resorted to Calpol twice last night, and hungry baby milk. PR I wonder if we are going through the same thing? it sounds similar. The quality of her cry makes me think pain. It is just so intense. I am shattered. I ate two mars bars at 7.30 this morning just for the energy to sit on the sofa and watch her play. I am typing this as she lies in her cot, yawning, eye rubbing and NOT SLEEPING. I am going to hunt anbesol liquid today while frantically marching her in pram to try to get her to go the fuck to sleep. Unless I am in the cells for stabbing useless, unsupportive DH in a sleep deprived rage.

Have only vaguely caught up - mars bars to PR, Contra, laughalot, Luis anyone going through the similar. VQ idiot fuckers for not picking that up. how difficult is it for a doctor to check a baby's fucking mouth? really hope it gets sorted now and you can put these feeding issues to bed (got bed on the brain).

thanks to Pass for awesome summaries!

I will be checking my girls when they get in to see if they have it too.

J is having 5-7 oz at each feed. He is on 5 bottles a day now, with an odd bf thrown in for good measure.

He is dribbling like a Very dribbly thing and has been for a while. His two front teeth are visible through the gum each side of the tie, but are not near cutting through. It is hard being a baby.

I feel really sad about this. I feel like I should have known or noticed these things earlier - she has a tongue tie too I've realised. She's constantly fought a bottle and feeding has always been a struggle. But nobody ever thought anything of it and the hv/gp didn't see to 'care' because she isn't breast fed and never dropped any centiles. However to make sure she never dropped any centiles I've run myself into the ground feeding her continuously all day every day and she's nearly 5 months old. I feel sad that my baby has been struggling and I haven't helped her :(

PR the fact that the ooze from the ear has come out so quickly suggests to me that there is an infection. Keep her medicated and hydrated, and get her seen, poor little poppet. Not much you can do really. Is it the usual wax or more pus like? Does it smell?

I agree, never clean inner ear. Nothing smaller than your elbow is the guide for things in your ear. I try to avoid getting water in their ears as it always seems to lead to trouble with mine. May just be mine though. Cleaning the outside is good though as it clears the way for the villa to slowly move the shite out.

hugs caped. don't blame your self. xx