November 2012 - The thread where it all starts to get easier. Pretty please?

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1703340-November-2012-Four-months-Oh-no-the-dreaded-sleep-regression

luis I have two older girls who slept really well from a stupidly young age. J was a very clingy baby from the second he was born. He slept with me on hospital and this continued at home. I think he spent about 10 mins in his moses basket.

Initially I was very against co-sleeping, so gradually started him in his cot in his room. This was going ok until 5 weeks when he was hospitalised with bronchiolitis. He stayed in with me after that as his breathing was awful and he was vomiting frequently.

We set up a bedside cot, with the side removed for easy feeding. Ths was better, but he got to the point he would only sleep if he had my nip in his gob. I was not sleeping, and y health was suffering.

We put him in his room at 12 weeks and it was very hard for 3 nights. He is now in there for all naps too. He is not allowed in our bed and has slowly improved.

He has slept through once, last weekend. Tonight was the second longest stretch. He will get there. He could possibly self settle if I let him, but I want the girls and DH to sleep. It works for us, but is very hard on me.

DH is useless at night. Always has been.

Well done baby kirrin

stunt better sleep for baby, but naughty naughty daddy. You did right to follow. I hope you can get some more sleep, and manage to sort things with your man x

Loved the comment about skin to skin x although a bit sad too.

stunt glad j has slept better, just need to work on your sleep now! You did the right thing following DH, like you said - he can't have it both ways. Writing that letter might be therapy in itself even if you don't show it too him, but have you him how you feel? He may be sensitive but that doesn't mean he gets to behave however he likes.

N has just projectile vomited all over me - she never does that. She also rarely takes a good feed, but has just done so after sleeping so long, so I guess the 2 are related?!

So bloody frustrated!Paed appointment today complete waste of time!

Don't worry that she doesn't nap, she should only be catnapping. Um no, if she doesn't get regular day sleeps she is incredibly cranky, that's why I'm walking miles with the pram. I wouldn't if I didn't have to!

You can have a script for Losec but don't use it without calling me first. Um, the Zantac isn't working.

Question for other reflux mummies, are meds supposed to make them a normal happy baby or just take the edge of the unsettledness? DD is just so miserable at least two days a week, poor lamb.

ARRRGGGH!

As you were,,,

aw wellie I can't answer but sympathise ...
up again! having milk spat all over me ...hope this is a one off not sleep regression! please not for me. has been like a newborn night!! don't know how you ladies and gent cope ...I can't do this again every night!

oh and stunt can I just second what kirrin said (my words now wouldn't make sense!) was v tempted to just cut and paste!!
struggling to keep eyes open! and need a wee ...I need a wee all the time again ...I last went at 3 before that was 2.00 and before that 12 last drink - a carton was at 9! . not sure if its my bladder - do I have a broken banjo!! or my ibs (have irritable bladder aswell as bowel!) anyone else need to wee as much? or any tips?

The skin-to-skin was hilarious VQ, every time I put my hands under his armpits to move him he giggled. Then he kept putting his fist in my armpit. And scrabbling at me with his sharp toenails. I don't know how people have baths with their babies, I would end up dropping him!

Don't fret about sleep regressions Contra because they're part of development. Every day J has made a leap forward. Yesterday he had a new word 'Dee' and could bring a toy to his mouth, the day before he had a new word 'Poo' and started watching me eat. The world is fascinating to him now. In the bath yesterday he was staring up at the tiles and the shower screen as if he had never been in there before and they were great works of art. Suddenly noises demand all his attention. He has just realised that we have a cat! Suddenly those book-thingies mean a bedtime story with daddy. Yes the poor sleep is a pain but I am witnessing a metamorphosis from a helpless newborn infant to an alert baby, able to sit up and observe the world around him, and ready to embark on the adventures of solid food and learning to crawl. His brain is making new pathways and he is learning new things faster than at any other time in his life.

Sympathy wellies is it worth asking for a second opinion?

contra is it just at night that you need to wee more? If so, I would imagine it is just because you are up and awake. I go as often overnight as in the day at the moment, but if DP does the night shift then I sleep through as normal.

thanks stunt in my tiredness and the wee small hours I forgot what it might be an indicator of! has brought a tear to my eye ...tear hurts ... am sooo tired On the plus side have found a strange facebook page all lamaze toys are about 5 quid cheaper than elsewhere and at the mo is buy one get one free ...play and learn tummy time mat that mm1 has is 16 quid! and they have octo tunes for 12! Mmm ...

x post kirrin ... yeah its often in the day,too! and I always have to go before I feed dd else I worry I will be trapped needing to go!
could it be I'm actually dehydrated?

decided mumsnet is pants ...why can't you favourite peoples posts or " like " them ...I would be a bit lurkier then!
not a lurker though!

another 3 in a row from me! I always post then think of something else ...I best be off and brush up on my ...
why did the baby ... jokes for tommorow!
why did the baby splash in the bath?
to wet the other side! ... nuuu that's bad!

On 5th feed of the night. She wakes almost exactly after 1.5hrs every time. I'm so tired right now. Your post was lovely and so true, stunt , about the leaps they are making at the moment. E is developing and progressing each day and it is wonderful to observe. It's hard to appreciate on the middle of the night though!

Hopefully I won't feel too tired today - I'm going on a baby first aid course so I need to be able to take in and remember information.

Sorry to hear your doctors appointment was of little use wellies

Oh and sleeping arrangements luis - my dh sleeps in the spare room, so he isn't disturbed in the night. It's also for my benefit, as he snores a lot and it was making it difficult for me to get back to sleep after night feeds. E sleeps in her cot next to my bed, although towards the end of the night she often ends up in bed with me, as she gets harder to settle and I don't have the energy to keep putting her back in her cot!

Morning. Good night here. Must be the sleep inducing melody of the Dexter theme tune that echoed through the house sending everyone to sleepy land.

Luis we all sleep in the same room. Me, DH and DD1 (2) all sleep in the same bed. I never wanted to co-sleep, and she was very good until a series of events perturbed her: moving house, new baby then a difficult spell in hospital for her. We are dropping very heavy hints into the conversation about her moving to her own bedroom soon. LO sleeps in her cot - even if we wanted to co-sleep we couldn't because of DD1.

I hate co-sleeping. For me my marital bed is for me and my husband, other than snuggles early morning that kind of thing. I can't wait to get DD1 into her own room, I will sleep so much better. And LO will never be given the chance to co-sleep, it's as simple as that. I can't cope with years more of tiny feet kicking me in the back, or the tummy.

One night, when I was pregnant with LO, I was woken up in masses of pain. DD1 had been thrashing around and headbutted me. I had a black eye for weeks. Our new neighbours have hardly spoken to us since, and my regular doctor appointments at the time were very uncomfortable for DH - everyone assumes the worst in these situations.

Agh I hate cosleeping.

I have no jokes. i realised towards the end of Dexter that he bears more than a passing resemblance to a very nasty ex of mine, and once I noticed that My enjoyment of the show diminished. Shame as was an excellent couple of episodes. I hope I can put that behind me by next week which will be the last two episodes of the 7th season though I've already read the summary on wikipedia and know what happens

Stunt LO has just really noticed our pets. This is a really curious look how incredible life is phase which is going to go on for a couple of years if DD1 is anything to go by :)

up again ... though trying to cope a little better and repeating its for development... there must be a more catchy phrase than this! dh is changing dd couldn't understand why I suggested not having the radio on was for the best! ... hope she will go back to sleep!

Quick ques peeps I have a request on the fb group it's a man?! Can someone confirm this is them I don't want to add random men unless its one of you under your dp/ dh's name. Thanks!

Morning,

Not so good night, she woke up twice. Oh well, she settled after feed so can't complain really.

wellieboots gaviscon just takes off the edge, she doesn't scream anymore but still utterly miserable and clingy. Not all the time but it feels like by evening. I am back to the dr today to get some more, she is definitely better after taking it.

luis I have O's cot in my room. But I am in a one bed flat so can't put it anywhere. Once I move she will get her own room, she will be nearly 6 months old.

And can't remember who asked about the apps for kids. Are there any for this age??? I would have never thought so. O is not even interested in telly, she doesn't care whether it is on or not.

Dh21, it is Luis requesting.

Glad you got some stretches of sanity stunt and vq

detective am hoping your overnight quietness Means you had a peaceful night, or at least some love.

luis I share a bed and a room with DH, little O was in with us till three weeks ago and now he as been evicted to the girls room, when they are at their dads, and actually we don't hear him he is sleeping better. I have the monitor obviously, DS1 is in his own room. LittleO comes back in with us when the girls are here.

(The reason fr this Malarchy is that we will be moving when he is 10 months and e will have his own room, so I want him to be happy on his own as a house move and a room move could be asking quite lot. He may not notice, but you just don't know)

random man!

It'll be Luis, dh :)

Just listened to a 10 minute moan from dp about how hard yesterday evening was, with R howling, being unable to settle him, he's got a headache like when the stroke happened, how tired he is... Howthe fuck does he think i feel?! I just had to get on andbloody learn, get half the sleep he does and spend most of the night propped up in bed at an uncomfortable angle. He does 4 hours a fortnight with my mum to help

10 hrs, in the cot. Feeling slightly alive this morning. :)