December 2012: This too shall pass, this too shall pass

[HoneyMumandSon]

keep repeating the mantra...

I've been laying in bed for ages with DS while he feeds/sleeps.eanwhile DH is downstairs. I wouldn't mind, except he'll be down there "taking a break" not going the washing up, laundry, cleaning or cooking that needs doing. He's out tomorrow too. That's my biggest complaint about DH really, he's great but 'needs' and gets a real break from DS often. I feel I never actually get a break.

Nope Spotty he'll either get shouty (screamy) or just wait the racetrack time and eat the same Mount meaning I get one less bottle in him, making me even more worried.

He's having a tired paddy on DP right now. I'm pretending to wee so I don't have to take over

extra and amount! Apparently my phone's a horseracing fan!

@ pretending to wee!

Nursery ready

Oh well. If he was hungry he would eat it try not to stress. There's no law about getting him weighed unless you're worried.

Dp now being a dick because I gave dd the bit of ice cream that was meant to me his (he didn't eat it last weekend. A week ago ffs)

Eek indeed Pidj, hope R likes it.

Everyone I've met in RL has put their baby into their own room @ ~11weeks and thinks I'm a freak for not doing. Thank goodness I have you lot to reassure me I'm not totally PFB to still ahve him in with us @ 13. J sleeps like the dead once he's been down for a certain amount of time, I'm sure if we were disturbing each other it'd be different. I babysat for a friend the other day and her 20wo's snoring sounded like a train, no wonder she moved him out into his nursery!

Can't remember if I said but he took to the travel cot no probs last night and he looks so small and cute in it

isthat I was wondering that too- D had a bottle of formula about a month ago and one this week when I wasn't good and was trying to work out if I now have to say he hasn't been EBF (I really wanted to get to 6 months)

FFS indeed Spotty. Just turn it back and ask if he seriously begrudges his 3 yo a bit of ice cream.

For some reason this time I'm completely freaked about ds being in his own room and think I might leave it for years ages

I got dd to tell him how yummy it was

spotty

:o spotty

R is 18 weeks on Monday and imo it's a bit esrly. If tonight doesn't work, he'll come back in with us till he's 6m and old enough to be taught

D is staying in with us till he grows out of his Moses basket. 6 months is only a few weeks away for us...

Spotty.

H is staying with us for the full 6 months her cot fits into our room well away from my bed as well

DH is working late again do I want dippy eggs again or peanut butter on toast for tea? I'm too tired to make decisions

See, I've been tripping over the crib for 4 months. My flat is big, for a flat, but it's not that big!

If the sleep is the same or worse I'll bring him back in tomorrow

isthat I'd still call that ebf as the formula isn't part of his normal regular feeding routine and your supply hasn't adjusted to allow for it. But even if it doesn't meet some technical definition, you're still doing what's best for you and your family, which is the main thing.

willyou Z will be in our room until at least 6 months; i'd like to wait until he regularly doesnt wake in the night until we move him next door and he's so little his stomach cant quite shore itself up for a night yet (he wakes up between about 4-5.30 but had been sleeping a bit longer in the uk; there are no blackout blinds in this room in Aus so i think he's woken by the light).

we're going to try to put him in the big cot when we get home from Aus. We tried the cot when he was born to see if we could do without a basket and in fact it was all academic as he would only sleep in bed with us anyway at the beginning, but he now sleeps very well in a bassinet as I have by sheer dumb luck birthed me a self-settler.

In other news my husband just threw up. :( This bug isn't going anywhere for a while.

I slipped down the stairs (well three) a and my toe was the first thing to connect with the wall. Poor DP is having to do lots of running around for me, and if DS needs bouncing its his job since I don't feel safe carrying him at the minute.
Spotty, sorry your DP is being a knob. I hate counter crumbs too, although I just leave then until DP gets home.
IsThis, we got DS a door bouncer but he's still a bit confused by it. The biggest smile I got was his pre sick smile! I hope he'll love it I've been waiting weeks for him to be big enough.
Pidj, good luck with his own room, hope he settles in quickly for you.
WillYou, I see DS being in with us at least until he outgrows his crib just because I'm lazy. His bedroom will be downstairs to us and I don't want to have to go that far in the middle of the night if he wakes up!
Honey I'd have dippy eggs again. Love dippy eggs.

honey I think we are safe to say they are ebf but have formula in emergencies.

Good luck with the nursery pidj I think ds2 will stay in with us until he sleeps through, I'm sooo lazy I don't want to have to leave my bed at night.

Hello all. You guys talk a lot.

Exciting about own room! C will be in with us until she's 11 months! We only have 1 bedroom here, and then we'll be travelling. She won't have her own room until we're back in Aus.

Do you chaps do dream feeds? What time? My husband usually does at midnight, but the 2 times we've done them earlier (between 10-11) due to travel, or being out, are the 2 times she's gone on to go more than 6 hours before her next feed. Could the midnight one be too late? Going to experiment tonight.

Also, interestingly I was talking babies with our guests from France. She was talking about when her 2 babies 'slept through' - and by this, she said people mean 'sleep midnight until 6am'! In which case, C has slept through once or twice.

Technically speaking sleeping through is five hours but in my head it's 11/12 hours

Hales - I live at the other end of Wigan, not far from Ashton/Golborne. PILs live quite near where you are though.

Good luck Pidge - hope R enjoys his first night in his nursery.

Spotty - I'm sure some blokes are issued with the same "How to be a Dick in any Domestic Situation" handbook. The whole responding to a simple request with an unfair accusation you do the same/worse is sadly very familiar. Hope your DD enjoyed her ice cream .

To be fair, DH does seem to be making a real effort since the argument and we've been having some nice chats about positive plans for the future (holidays we'd like to take the boys on etc) rather than him just focusing on what's annoying him. He's also been talking about work in a seemingly more rational way - looking at what is likely to/can be changed instead of saying it's doomed to be terrible forever. I know all our issues aren't going to magically disappear but it feels like progress.

Mama I've found that a midnight dream feed is too late and interrupts his normal rhythm. So a feed at ~10pm gets me until 4:30 at the earliest (usually between 5:30 and 7:00) but a feed at midnight means he wakes at 2 and 5:30. We don't do those anymore unless he wakes himself for one in which case he sleeps through as normal.

Yep Mama, sleeping through is classed as > 5 hours. That's not my idea of sleeping through.

Thanks all, I'll be keeping him in as long as I can, until we start disturbing each other and I get fed up of having to move the travel cot on top of my bed each morning to get dressed. It's a ball ache but my fitted wardrobes take up tons of space meaning I can't fit the proper cot in.