December 2012: This too shall pass, this too shall pass

[HoneyMumandSon]

keep repeating the mantra...

I am back at work for 2days, and you ladies talk the hind legs off a donkey, taken me ages to catch up!

Sorry to hear of sudden regression in behaviours (sleep/pram) in guessing they are becoming more aware of their surroundings so want to sit up.

I have loved being back at work, just training and only for a week but has made me itch to get back on the ward. F however doesn't appear to be impressed with me being away, he was foul yesterday with DM and today with DH. Think he is teething too (dribbling, red cheeks, sucking on his teddy, sucking his bottom lip).

Eggs, glad it went well. What kind of ward do you work on?

Honeytea, yes, we have a lovely lamb skin in the pram - makes no difference. Which is a shame.

Agghh, D has had all the symptoms and grouchiness of teething for over 3 weeks plus white spots on his gums where you can teeth waiting to break through but still not there. Though now it looks like 3 on the way. I know this cab go on for ages but I don't know how much more grouchy baby I can take

I officially have the stupidest dp. He thought he would try and talk to me through the baby monitor even though I was in the bath and ds was asleep in our room. So now ds is awake again

Oh Spotty. Groan.

Luckily a quick feed and he went back down. Now we are manically trying to cool the room down because we just checked the thermometer and it said 27 degrees??!!! All windows have now been opened....

4 month sleep regression hit at exactly midnight last night - 45 minute sleeps until he decided the day had begun at 5:45. R was born 19/11, who says babies can't tell date of time!

Fun when you have a job interview at 9:30

He's only just dropped off. Normally that would mean he'll do 6 hours. Please keep your fingers crossed I'm on my knees

Oh pidj that does not sound fun I have my fx for you

My bag of maltesers was filled to the brim! Bonus! Dp weighed it and it had an extra 50g in it

Oh Pidj! I am dreading the arrival of 4 months. How did the interview go?

Bonus, Spotty!

Little C's bedtime moved back again to 7.30. :) and got we to sleep without boob or dummy, just a gentle cuddle. Still in my arms but still.

Friends over for dinner tomorrow - got a spring lamb stew on the stove, not that there's much spring actually about...

How long is the 4month sleep regression meant to last? F was punctual at birth, and appears to have been punctual with every other development. Good luck with your interview Pidj, is this for the position you mentioned a couple of months ago?

I worked on a male forensic mental health ward, so for safety purposes I was office bound for the entire pregnancy, only occasionally bumping into patients in the hospital ground. However when I go back I will be on the female ward which should be interesting

Mmm... Maltesers

good times Spotty. God I want maltesers now. I accidentally did that the first day we set the monitors up! Thought he was still up so whispered "DP stinks" through it!

Fingers crossed Pidj

Glad you enjoyed being back at work Eggs

J is in bed but not for long I imagine, I can here him working up to crying through the monitor.

Hi all, just delurking to say hi.

DS is 15 weeks old now, he's got gastro (from DS1) and has been screaming all day waking every 90 mins since Saturday. He'll probably get over it just in time for the 16 week regression! DH is away until Friday and I am this close to booking us all tickets home. This move has been to the benefit of DH's career and to the total detriment of me! My career is fooked and I'm lonely because DS is so highly strung I can't leave the house. Anyway, sorry to rant. I think I may have PND so I'm off to see the GP tomorrow.

MaMa We had one great day in the pram last week so the following day I took him out in it when he wasn't even tired and it was a disaster! He just hates being in it.

pidj I hope the interview went well.

Oh poor you Seymore well done for planning to see your GP I hope they can offer you some support. It must be really hard for you being without your family and friends

Thanks spotty. Sorry for the me, me, me post! I feel better for getting it off my chest though, I can't talk to anyone about it in RL. I hope you get some long sleeps tonight!

seymore well done for going to the dr. I think I'm heading down that route too...

Seymore this is the place for me, me, me posts! Have you spoken to your dh?

Honey are you still seeing your counsellor?

Bless you seymour - really tough for you. Mega well done for spotting pnd and taking first steps to dealing with it. Try to take just one day at a time. DH heard from a pal of his today who also moved to oz recently and is sounds like he has male equivalent of pnd, no bond with ds etc. DH feels bad that he's so far away he can't really help much. Maybe your gp or hv can put you in touch with a support group? Hope you feel better soon, and do vent on here.

spotty dd is 13 weeks today. Took dummy again in pram and car seat, but doesn't want to know otherwise! Hoping for more finger sucking self settling progress.

Eggs, oh yes, I think I remember you may have mentioned your job before, way back in the distant pre-baby past. I used to work in forensic mental health too, will hope to get back into it. I much prefer working with the men than women in that area!

Seymore and Honey, I'm sorry to hear things are so tough but it's great to hear that you're talking about it to someone at least. Seymore, I have lots of sympathy, I really miss home at the moment. I'm quite lonely here too but try to get out as much as I can. Is there much in the way of children's centres where you are? I'm sure even if your son is tricky he'd be welcome somewhere like that. I do recommend going along to things even if you don't feel like it, but I absolutely understand how depression can really colour how things seem and how a simple recommendation like 'just get out more!' can seem unhelpful. Apologies in advance if this comes across that way.

OK, new thread rule - me me me posts are completely within the remit of this thread and no more apologies for them will be accepted. Agreed?

Poor husband is still at work. I think I might go to bed. Night all.

After a growth spurt a couple of days ago my boobs are on overdrive! Just got into bed and boob is sore already - (hopefully) should have another 4 hours til feed o'clock!

WL watch out if dd unlatches mid feed, you'll be back to squirting across the room

seymore and honey sorry to hear of possible pnd. It's pretty rubbish but asking for help is a great step.

Thanks everyone. I have tried speaking to DH but he's not very good at just listening. He wants to solve the "problem" straight away or he gets frustrated, but I just want someone to listen. And he feels very responsible for bringing us here but he shouldn't, I agreed to come! My GP here is really nice, whenever I see him for the DCs he asks how I'm coping and tells me to pop in if it's getting too much. I think I've got to that point now.

Honey sorry you are feeling low too. I didn't know you were seeing a counsellor, do you think it's helping?

This is a bit TMI so look away now if you're eating but thought I'd share! I had another blocked duct on Saturday. By Sunday morning the top half of my boob was rock hard with milk and so painful. I'd tried everything and had been latching DS on all day. Anyway I remembered reading that sometimes you can see the blocked duct as a white patch on the nipple and this time I could. I tried massaging it, softening it in the shower, poking at it.... In the end I had to apply loads of pressure and it popped followed by a torrent of milk. It hurt for days after but I managed to avoid mastitis. Nice!

Seymore, Honey sorry your both feeling like this. I know its not the same thing as sitting down and having a cuppa with someone but we're always here to support you. I know this thread has helped me loads. Could you not go back to Oz for a couple if weeks without your DP Seymore and see your family. I know travelling and finance might be abit hard though. Just remember though you are both doing fantastic jobs and are brilliant mothers, even more so for recognising that theres a problem and getting help.

I agree with the no more apologising for me me me threads rule, its a brilliant idea. We're all here for each other and we all need help and advice or just to vent the feelings we can't share with people in our everyday lives.

I think we all deserve But more importantly we all deserve................ cake infact i think we should declare today cake day and all treat ourselves to as many slices as we like. Happy Cake Day haha. And on this post i'm even going to put kisses and mean it as i think we all deserve a kiss too xxx

3.5 hours....what's gone wrong??? I'm tired and I've got a headache again ffs.

Sorry honey I missed your post. Well done you too for recognising and acting. Really hope you have some good support.

As for me, hooray for feed o'clock! My poor boob feels so much better now! Not sure she'll manage the other one though so that might be a rock by morning!