December 2012: This too shall pass, this too shall pass

[HoneyMumandSon]

keep repeating the mantra...

Ok thanks think I will get some

Been to weigh in, only 9oz on in 3 weeks. He's dropped to the 9th centile . I have to go back next week. Afraid I've been an 8;30pm-7;00am sleeper this week but I'm going to wake him to feed him in the night I think as he eats plenty in the day.

Maybe do a dream feed WillYou? Is he still being sick lots?

No sicking has stopped. they said it's maybe cos of his jabs/cold etc but he's been feeding fine despite all of that. What time would you dream feed?

Well with ds I do it at 10 because that's what time I like to go to bed, plus he goes down at seven ish. I would say as late as you are happy to stay up? Ds stays completely asleep it took a while to get him to open his mouth in the beginning but now he does it straight away

Willyou, why would you start waking him to feed in the night? I must be missing something. I'd be utterly astonished if C slept so long. And delighted of course. But she's doing ok - midnight dream feed then 4am. She fooled me into thinking she was up at 6.30 but napped another hour. She also just had a 35 min morning nap in her crib, without much resettling.

Sleepless, I hope things improve soon. Try not to listen to those people some of whom may be exaggerating with amazing sleeping babies. You're definitely not alone.

Hales, another good sleep resource is www.troublesometots.com - as with everything, there's some stuff to really listen to and some to ignore.

Spotty, hope your daughter starts feeling better soon.

Right - off to brave the pram for a supermarket run. I have been scared of using it lately!

Mama I'd rather not but he's dropped his nightfeed and hasn't been gaining enough weight. I feed him every 2.5-3 hours in the day and that's as often as he'll feed. The only way to get more food into him is in the night. I'll try the late night dream feed. We only go to bed at 11-11:30 so I could do one then.

I would do that WillYou. We had to do it with dd when she was a similar age but she wasn't having any of it!

I just made him an extra ounce after he finished his 6oz bottle. Every little helps! I used to wake him at 12 for a last bottle but found it unsettled him and made him wake every 2 hours. Hopefully I can give it to him asleep.

We've got red rosey chops here today and 2 sharp little bumps on his gums.

Goodness teeth! I'm glad we don't have any signs yet I love a gummy smile!

I got a bit freaked out by a friend's baby on Sunday Spotty. He's got his front 2 at the top with a big gap between. They do not suit him yet!

Lots of babies have that, does he have a lip tie? Dd and ds do it hasn't effected dd's teeth though

I'm not sure, my friend's the dad so he probably wouldn't have a clue about any of that stuff

I'm right to be scared of the pram - proper screaming fit so I'm huddled in the corner of sainsburys feeding to calm her down :(. So bloody stressful. It's just a pram, little C! Loads of other babies manage them ok!

How strange Mama and for it to come on so suddenly too. Get yourself a coffee and a cake to get you through any excuse

I am studiously ignoring J right now. He's in a right little tired grump but won't go to sleep again after waking himself up for a poo! Have dumped him on his mat in the hope he'll have 1/2 an hour.

Utopian I know that you've been exercising again. I am planning on starting trying to shift a bit of post-pregnancy weight, all of which I have gained since having him, I was so thin right after the birth! Is there anything that you've been advised not to do or that you've struggled with?

Thanks WillYou - she fed to sleep (and cried to sleep, I reckon) and strangely stayed asleep when we got home. One little cry but that's it. Now been asleep for about 90 mins which is unheard of (unless I'm holding her).

Man, it is so stressful though. I wish I could disappear, and avoid all the judgy well-meaning looks people give me.

mama no advice really, but D has developed a pram phobia too.

Thank you for that link Mama, i've read some of the stuff and realised H's natural bedtime is 4am Going to try and turn this back like it said on the website 15 minutes at a time.

Mama and Honey are your LO's nosy babies? H is and i've found sitting her up in her pram so she can watch whats going on around her makes her calmer than lying her on her back. When she shows signs of getting tired i lie her down and she stays calm. Sorry if you've already tried that. I didn't even realise the moses basket part of pram had the option of sitting up until my mum told me

Hales, yes, I think that site has some good ideas. I hope you find it helpful. 4am bedtime, oh no! I think I've managed to turn C's 8.30pm bedtime into 8pm, which is good as that'll be 9pm in a few weeks' time!

And yes, C has become super nosy. I do want to try her out in the pushchair part but need to buy a hood and seat cover. Maybe she'll get less annoyed and frantic when tired.

She's strangely sleepy today - only awake an hour (incl sleepy feeding) then started yelling. With cuddle and dummy she's dropped off. I have a cup of tea so I might just sit and watch tv.

Honey, how are you managing with D? Tried sitting up?

Didn't know you could sit them up in the carry cot hales how? We moved him into the seat unit which goes fairly flat bad mummy so he could see more but if anything it's made him worse as he doesn't like being strapped in, but that is something he'll need to get used to with a y transport device !

Mama its not the buggy part of the pushchair its the carrycot i forgot what to call it until i've just read honeys post. Honey mine just looked like a regular mattress but the top end of it lifts up theres a metal bar underneath it which looks like what you use on a sun loungers. It has four different. Levels to recline on. I sit it upto the highest level and put plenty of blankets round her to stop her falling, she enjoys looking merrily around. I will admit i did feel stupid when my mum pointed out that i could do it on the carrycot and argued that my pram wouldn't do it, till she showed me how.

Theres a programme on Channel 4 tonight at 8pm called Sleep Stories (or something like that). Its about getting children, toddlers and babies to sleep. I will be recording that to watch when my programmes finish.

I'm going to watch that hales and on Thursday there's a home birth programme on itv at nine

Thanks hales I shall investigate!

I've just been and checked, no stick to raise mine Hales . The programme is called Bedtime live.

J has just had a gorgeous 3 hour nap snuggled up on my chest. I've been reading the shit not to stress about thread and thought sod it, he's only going to be little for a short time and who cares if I'm pinned down and can't have a drink or a wee !

I was wondering if the pram hating babies had sheepskin in their prams? My ds loves his pram because of the sheepskin, he relaxes as soon as I put him in it.

My ds is going through a crazy growth phase, he used to sleep really well with 1 mayby 2 wakeups but now he wakes up all the time and as soon as I pick him up day or night he headbuts my chest asking for a feed, He gained a pound in 6 days I hope he slows down soon so we all get some sleep!