November 2012 - Four months? Oh no, the dreaded sleep regression!

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1698894-November-2012-BFPs-Already-You-girls-are-going-to-have-some-fun

Instead of marking place, please could those of us with older siblings post something (positive) they are looking forward to as our babies get older. I think it would cheer us up since so many are struggling at the moment.

Where are you moving to Lily ?
She is just over 20 weeks.

VQ I boil the hard stuff like carrots and potatoes on the hob as I don't have a steamer, and the fruit I cook in a tiny bit of water in the microwave.

And I use the food procesor to blitz it all with some of the cooking water.

Sorry ladies I have to vent!
Damn MIL . I came home from a walk with N, so he was hungry but settled. So MIL did everything to make him unsettled. With TV on, his mat lights on, while using his music ball as well as passing him around like a shinny new toy.
So with a very hyper baby, he didn't want milk, and it took me all evening to settle him. Then when it came to meal time she took over. I had him in his basket playing with a toy, but the first noise he made she picked him up, and took him to the table and started to play, with him using her food. Within 15 minutes of his bed time.

So getting him to sleep, not easy. Getting him to stay asleep, harder.
Evil

I have the opposite problem to a lot of you. My OH thinks he knows best about everything baby. I am the one who is the rubbish parent. Already this morning I have fed O incorrectly and wiped milk from around his mouth in the wrong way

My Mother's Day card said 'Mum' not 'Mummy' inexplicably sad about this.

Happy Mothers day, one and all! Mums are awesome.

311 big hugs x I cannot even begin to imagine what it is like for you. That was very sweet of your brother. I think a card for the first Mother's Day is the daddy's job, which is why he probably did not give a card in case it caused you more pain. Your brother remembered and thought of you. I hope you have a good day with your friends and your lovely little bundle. You will have many more Mother's Days to come, and they just get better. I had my first hand written, all her own work card from DD1 today.

evil how rotten. Big hug. Hope you have a better day today.

sweetpea you are mummy. Nobody can take that away from you. DH saying and doing what he does says more about his insecurities than your lack of ability in my opinion. Please try not to let it get to you, although I can imagine that is easier said than done. Occasionally my eldest calls me mum, and I correct her each time! Although there are also times I get so sick of hearing mummy I consider changing my name

Pass the . Little bugger darling has been awake ALL night. (bar 20 mins on dp). This is taking the piss now. She doesnt sleep during the day much either. How can one so small have sooo much energy?! Typically she is asleep now, just in time for me to get ready for work and take her to my mums.

Hands up luis, I missed your first post. Good on you for joining us, we arent all anti-men (unless it's our own men ). Mine is uberconfident that he is much better with Tilly and knows exactly what she needs/wants - until I leave the room .

Mothers day. Him indoors is at work all day. He cooked steak, dauphinous pots and mummy wine (appletiser) for dinner last night with my fav choccy pud. Tulips and a card (with a dodgy handprint after his and Ms fingerpaint disaster) from M and a half an hour bath in peace . We are going to my mum's for tea tonight.

Thank you luis did you spoil your missus rotten?

I am a very bad daughter. I have not got my mum anything, except a card. I have given her another grandchild though, so that will help with lack of gift. Might get the paint out shortly and do some art with the kids for her.

mm is she happy with it, or is her skin keeping her awake? You really are having a hard time. She was such a good sleeper at first if I recall correctly.

mm I was going to ask the same as VQ - is there something keeping her awake, skin etc? I really feel for you, must be so difficult coping with so little sleep.

Nope, she is just wide awake and wanting to play. No tears until we put her in her cot. Doesnt matter how deep a sleep or wide awake she is either when you put her in it. She was the same with her moses basket in her later weeks in it too. VQ she was regularly going 7+ hours up until 10 weeks. She's 14 weeks now - I am broken

Hello, I am feeling like a selfish ungrateful Mummy this morning.

"L" got me flowers and a card. And... an Old MacDonald finger puppet set.

If I have learned anything from this thread it is to be grateful that I have a happy, healthy baby and a lovely DH. Which I am. And I never expect fancy presents from him. It's just, after waiting a long time to be a Mummy, I was secretly hoping for something a bit more... meaningful.

Whinge over. You can all judge me now.

ps Lily I am glad your brother got you chocs but sorry about the card. I was thinking about you yesterday and hoping someone had thought to get you one.

Mother's Day and my birthday today, I didn't get any pressies, DP handed me his wallet and said go nuts in Southampton shopping centre yesterday but I couldn't think of anything I wanted
So nothing special going on here today, we did have a nice meal at Jamie's Italian last night which was tasty :)

Happy birthday Tits!

Morning all! Happy Mother's Day, and happy birthday tits.

Well my dp clearly didn't think my first Mother's Day was any kind of a special day at all, no card, no lie in, no nothing and he wonders why I was upset. He claims that he was going out to get me a card today, I told him not to bother, is that being ungrateful? (Just to point out, I don't think he had any intention of going at all until I had a little moan)

The main thing is that I had my usual beaming smiles off my happy healthy baby girl when I got her out of her cot this morning, and for that I am truly thankful and is all I need on Mother's Day!

Sorry to hear so many people still struggling with sleeping time. We're doing ok but only 16 weeks tomorrow so haven't hit 4 months yet so it could all start going wrong very soon.

I'm with you Kirrin on the woes of ebm. I never get much off and currently am only able to try last thing at night so I'm lucky if I get 2oz! I'm very slowly building up a frozen milk bank but it is taking an age. I've tried expressing from one side while she feeds from the other but I only get around 30-40mls off. I've tried massaging with limited success. I'm in awe of the ladies who seem able to get 150mls+ in one go

Cross posted.

Happy birthday Tits

I just got a card Fruitpastilles but neither my DH's or my family have ever been big on Mothers Day so I wasn't really expecting anything.

We're off out for a nice walk at the seaside and maybe some fish and chips, yummmm

Greetings baby-makers!

Am in the house. Myself! DH got up with P this morning then took her out to buy us a new coffee machine - ours blew up yesterday. Proper flames!

They have been gone quite a long time now. I miss them!

We had people over for lunch again yesterday. They left at 10:15pm!!! They are very, very dear friends but I was to still have them here at P's second bed time!

my seven year old this morning: "mama here is your card in the style of Vincent van gogh" I have to say he hasn't done a bad job! the brush work is right

my DH has definitely improved on the mothers day front. taken seven years tho

Fish and chips

and happy birthday tits

Carrots went down like a bag of cold sick. Will try again tomorrow.

Happy Birthday Tits

PR I had such high hopes for the carrots

PR

I haven't had any flowers except the ones I bought myself or pressies except the one I am going to by myself out of the joint account, some frippery for the new house I think

However, that's my DH. He is cooking dinner later and I did get breakfast in bed.

for sweetpea and 311 I hope your day goes ok.

Happy Mother's Day fabulous mummies - choose whichever you'd prefer

For those of you that didn't get much I think Mother's Day comes into its own when the DC's are old enough to make or buy their own things. Think it was my 2nd Mother's Day that I had a right strop as DH hadn't bothered to even get me a card. He never does anything for his own mum, I'm the one that organises anything so it just wasn't built into it. He didn't realise how much it meant to me so the next year I got card, flowers and chocolates. And this year DD1 made me a card which means more than any bought one so as they get older it can only get better.....until they get too old and they can't be arsed!

pr this is a very silly question but how do you make your purées? I'll have to do it for E but never bothered with DD1. Do you just boil the veg and then mash it?

Well my nice gift from the hospital is being kicked out of my nice comfy room into one without a bathroom. At least I still have my own room I guess. The in laws are bringing DH and DD1 over so we can have lunch in the hospital canteen. Did I say this before? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, brain is mush.

E was weighed earlier and is now 10lbs 3 so that's good news.

luis one of my nct group is a sahd. I think he found it quite tricky at first as all the groups are very mother orientated but he's settled into the role really well. I think it is hard for dads as in some instances you are damed if you do and damed if you don't. A lot of men just don't get the baby stage, mine is one of them, but he tries and is supportive of me which is the main thing. Hope you don't feel isolated on this thread and I know you won't be treated any differently because you are a man. You'll receive the same advice and support no matter what.

tits happy birthday lovely. Glad you at least had a nice meal out. I love Jamie's Italian, yummy.

seeetpea I understand re the mum thing. My shop bought one says mum. I am mummy! DD1 has started to call me mum a bit, it's the preschool influence creeping in. I'm trying to knock it out of her!

lily special thoughts for you and how lovely of your brother.

Morning all! Happy birthday tits and happy mothers day all! sweetpea I find it really sad your dp makes you feel so rubbish with regards to LO. You are anything but so please don't believe him

luis when ever mentioning about a mans life not changing very much when lo's come along I wouldn't be referring to SAHD's. In fact tend to be generalising or referring to my dp. I am just like the other poster (forgot who), I don't help myself as I will feel like I cannot even nip loo without rushing, then be pissed off that dp takes all the time in the world to do anything but then when we discussed it he said I do not have to rush, and I need to trust him more. And I do need to. I can't very well moan he does nothing or his life hasnt changed if I don't stop the way I can be sometimes. Obviously your life has changed lots and it sounds like you do a fab job :)

Welcome just and any other lurkers I forgot to welcome!

After staying up Friday watching brother sober up, was tired, we went to a friends to play darts, I didn't take e's travel cot as I thought he would sleep in pushchair. He did not. Thought last bottle that is usually dream feed would knock him out. It did not. Was desperate for him to go to sleep, and he eventually did at 11:30. Am hoping it was a one off because he was excited by the evening. He wasn't fussy or anything, he was very good. Last night is a prime example of me and dp. He wanted to settle him and I insisted I did because I know how. Well how will he learn if he never has to? I did apologise, I was snappy a bit of a bitch actually and it wasn't on I think I was just so tired, and I hold my hands up and admit I am awful with lack of sleep!

pr how long do puréed things freeze for? If possible I will make some ready for when we start so I don't get into a flap! Hope the carrots go down better tomorrow!

Am sure there was more but Ill be buggered if I know what it was!