November 2012 - Four months? Oh no, the dreaded sleep regression!

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1698894-November-2012-BFPs-Already-You-girls-are-going-to-have-some-fun

Instead of marking place, please could those of us with older siblings post something (positive) they are looking forward to as our babies get older. I think it would cheer us up since so many are struggling at the moment.

[barefootwalker]

Has a toddler, not past tense.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Morning. Happy Mother's Day.

Luis I was aware you are a man. Sorry if my posts offended, but not very sorry. You will be I'm sure aware that we generalise. Your situation is exceptional, well, relatively rare. I'm sure you are excellent at being a SAHD. But one of the reasons you manage better than our DHs is that you will have managed your expectations and become aware of reality a lot earlier. Our DHs don't have to do this all the time, so don't realise how hard it is. And yes, are able, because they can, to switch on and off.

stunt I'm no longer famous it's all forgotten. I enjoyed my 15 minutes though :o

pidj why the :( doesn't wooly hugs happen anymore? Have you stopped? I think it's fab.

[sweetpea1112]

7:30 - 4:30! WTF?? Happy Mothers Day indeed!

[justonemorecake]

Hi, I've been lurking for a while, but thought I should finally say hello as there has been a lurkers amnesty. I was very briefly on one of the first few antenatal threads but just couldn't keep up! I hope its ok for me to join at this late stage.

My DD, Emilia, was born 22nd November. She's our first.

For 15 weeks her sleep is still poor. She was waking every 1.5 hours, and I didn't think it could possibly get worse than this, but the last few nights she has been waking every hour, and has started waking for the day at 6! I really don't know what I'm doing wrong. We have a bedtime routine etc. It is a good job E is a gorgeous smiley baby! ((Hugs)) to others also struggling with sleep deprivation. I hope you have all had a better night than me.

Have a lovely Mother's Day everyone!

[PetiteRaleuse]

Welcome just no idea, I'm not the best adviser on sleep issues other than perhaps this is her sleep regression, and you'll go back to better than normal at the other end of the tunnel.

[MadamGazelleIsMyMum]

Happy Mother's Day

Got two cards from my monsters (well remembered Daddy) and a lovely card from my DSD. She and I have had a bit of a rocky year, so that was v nice.

My DH will again be a part time SAHD and is very hands on. However, despite being extremely capable, he does tend to look to me as the parent ultimately "in charge".

VQ I totally agree, just go out. If there is too much build up, he will worry. If your DH just has to manage, he will. Like you do. He may not do things the way you do, but he is a different person / parent, and I have had to train myself to believe that different is not necessarily worse, noticed by DC or affects DC. Also, and I mean this in a really nice way, but dont be a martyr I am often accused of this, with some truth, and actually I think I know what luis means, that DHs need to be trusted and allowed to do it, even when some may initially seem reluctant / worried, but its a confidence thing. I was petrifed of dealing with both DC on own when DH went back to work, but I learned how to do it. DH needs the opportunity to learn.

I dont think I have expressed myself particularly well and dont want to offend anyone but I think I mean force your DH to learn how to cope without the safety net of you. Yes you will worry the whole time you are gone, the first time, but little and often as possible will breed confidence for both of you. Hugs, etc

[MadamGazelleIsMyMum]

Welcome back just. There are a few people having sleep issues. I have no real advice but remember "this too shall pass"!

[justonemorecake]

Thank you! That is what I keep telling myself, although my mum kindly told me that my brother didn't sleep through consistently until he was 3! I have actually got used to waking up every 1.5 hours and can cope with it reasonably well. But waking every hour is too much!

[StuntNun]

There are lots of teeth charts on the Interweb Luis that show when teeth come through. IIRC the teething can go on for months before the tooth actually erupts. My DS2 got his first two bottom teeth at the same time and it was awful for him.

Welcome back Just, I have another poor sleeper here. Sometimes I think I wake up more tired than when I went to sleep. I have demanded an afternoon nap today so I will ask DH to take the kids+dog out for a walk so I can have peace and quiet. They do start sleeping better after four months so long as you have a bedtime routine in place and work on your sleep associations so they can get themselves back to sleep. The Troublesome Tots website is good for sleep advice.

[ValiumQueen]

With respect stunt , luis did not state he was a dad on this thread. There was a reference to 'daddy', but that post could have been easily written by a female. When he joined us on the last thread, there was no mention of him being male. I stand by my comment that it would have been helpful to have known that.

luis you are wrong to assume that we would all know who you are. Please do not feel that you need to start each post with 'I am a man' as you have made your gender more than clear.

On other news, J slept through!

[PurplePidjin]

Woolly hugs is going strong! Just I've had to step down now

//Www.woollyhugs.com

[sweetpea1112]

Well done J!

I thought O might be teething so we used teething gel last night and he slept 9 hours straight and is still sleeping now Will repeat again tonight before I decide that teething is definitely the culprit.

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

How exciting to have luis and justonemorecake join us. If you stick with us you will soon see what an excellent quiche we are. Though we are always honest with each other we are all acutely aware that there are Human faces with feelings behind the names and the thread is filled with kindness and mutual support.

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY

This is sophia fairy reporting from bed, surrounded by children.

[kirrinIsland]

Yay for miniVQ and minisweetpea :)

Welcome justone I have a poor sleeper as well - 2 hours is a long sleep in our house. No advice, as if I knew how to fix it i'd do it myself! But sympathy and

crap night here, and I've got to get up to take DD1 to a birthday party. Birthday parties are a relatively new development in my life and at the moment DD1's social life is better than mine!

In other really boring news - I made a bottle of ebm to take out with us yesterday and left it on the side. That means I had to throw it away, and I had to feed N at the table whilst out with friends. Actually, that's not such a problem as I'll feed anywhere, but throwing ebm away is gutting as I am crap at expressing - 3oz a day!

[ValiumQueen]

sweetpea well done to baby pea too! You needed that!

I woke frequently unfortunately.

I have flowers and cards. No lay in, but I am ok with that.

[PetiteRaleuse]

I've spent the morning so far making and freezeing batches of puree :) Weaning seriously starts today.

[ValiumQueen]

I am really looking forward to weaning. What have you made PR carrots?

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

vq I have cards and lie in and no flowers! I too am happy with Wee Willie and Little O sitting on my bed with toast and tea. (Me not them ) ( girls at their dads due to meeting up with friends beginning to take precedence over time with parents. Sigh. I suppose they have to grow up)

[Sophiathesnowfairy]

I am excited about weaning now too. Might make my purses up in the next week! Yippee.

[PetiteRaleuse]

Carrots, sweet potato, courgette, pear, apple, apple & pear. Enough for a few weeks if you include the banana and avocado which won't need cooking. Was up really early so just got on with it.

[PetiteRaleuse]

And yes I'm starting with carrots today :o

[PetiteRaleuse]

I have also fed the animals, done the dishes, cleaned the oven, and the hob and done a load of laundry.

I think i'm coming down with something. I don't normally do anything on Sundays

[kissyfur]

I have a DP who does help out a lot but like another poster said (sorry can't remember who) he wouldn't think twice about arranging to do something without checking I was around to look after the girls. Which does grate on me a bit really

2 x 4 hour stretches of sleep for me last night so no complaints there.

Well done to Oscar sweetpea!

We also have teething here I think. The Anbesol liquid that YW recommended works wonders

Happy mothers day one and all, hope you all get spoilt rotten

[ValiumQueen]

Very impressivePR do you boil or steam? I plan to steam if I can find the steamer.

[Lily311]

Pr, how old is your little one? I am not sure when to start weaning, I will be moving abroad for 2.5 years at the beginning of May, O will be 23-24 weeks old. Ideally I would love to start after the move but not sure she can manage on milk until than.

Happy Mother's day! It is a bittersweet one for me, missing my OH a lot. My brother came yest and brought me chocolates which was nice though I really wanted a card. I am out seeing friends today, hope it will cheer me up. O slept till 5.25, woke up ravenous, had both boobs plus a bottle .