November 2012 - BFPs? Already? You girls are going to have some fun!

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1693077-November-2012-They-WERE-sleeping-what-happened

Morning Slappers. Here's to a fucking fabulous Wednesday. Yes it will be brilliant. It has to be. I need a good day, both DDs at home and very energetic. LO has been Chortling since 5. WTF? Knackered. Just when I thought I could go back to bed DD1 was awake and is currently trying to tug the nursing cushion from underneath LO.

I'm thinking of doing a degree with the OU.

Yay to that pr - a fucking fabulous Wednesday it has to be :-)

sweet feel like my dd prefers my dh too she always has a grumpy hour before he comes in to save her from me and he managed to rock her to sleep in his arms last night... I can only get her to sleep after literally hours of boob!
at dh today as I went up to bed at 9 still cluster feeding dd and she managed to go down at 10.20 (a pb) and sleep til now. I have not! dh had a glass of wine and 3 bottles of ale last night so was talking in his sleep and weeing every few hours ... grrrrrr! I find the hardest thing is to get off to sleep and I have to believe its going to be longer than an hour or I can't ... I believed last night til that oaf woke me!!

Erm were having an ok time!! Got a cold but he sometimes wakes coughing at 4, sometimes he doesn't. He self settles and goes back to sleep.

Don't hate me.

Last week we were in regression land. It passed like it started. Will wait for the next one. Generally he's fairly ok and happy. He screamed for an hour yesterday in the car. No idea why. I even stopped to change him ?!

Would have been mil birthday today. Will pop to grave to see her with e. think dh going tomorrow. So we might go twice.

mm I think the two of you need to chat, however things weren't good pre baby. I'm not really very sure. I'm not good with relationship issues!!

I am still in bed. I have had porridge, and am about to eat pancakes. I have a gurgly little boy next to me lying on his side

Yes, he got there himself :o

pr and contra thanks for the support re the banana. She did seen to like it. Me, well I hate bananas but DD1 loves then too so she'll look forward to receiving the scraps

bry don't worry at all about the bf comment. I would happily continue if all was going well. The hosp are supportive of me continuing to bf and asked how keen I am to carry on but I've said I don't care how she gets fed as long as she is getting her calories on board.

sweetpea DD1 is a total daddy's girl. But in times of need ie when she falls, feels poorly or is a bit out of sorts it's me she wants. DD1 can be an absolute cow all day but when DH gets home shes all sweetness and light. DH is the fun one, the one that gets to play with her, throw her around and be silly. I'm the boring one with her all day and the disciplinarian. But at the end of the day it's mummy she looks for most. Sorry I know comparing O to a 3 year old is daft but I just wanted to try and explain why you might feel the way you do but in no way is it because O prefers his daddy.

mm boooo to nasty unsupportive selfish DH.

There was more I was going to say but E has just woken. There goes my wankstaining morning cuppa!

Am fucking knackered

Welcome barefoot and waves at any lurkers that might be out there!

Oh and when DD1 came to visit yesterday the first thing she said to me was, mummy do you have a baby in your belly again! Time to slow down on the chocolates I think

pr what in? I like the ou.

LO prefers DP too. He talks away and grins and laughs.

I am merely milk, nappies and snot remover!

I am going for a fucking fabulous Wednesday, beef in horseradish already in aga to cook for 5 hours. Bottles done, baby napping in his cot and I'm going to go shower.

Have a good morning knob suckers.

Bless you Eliza thank you . You always sound so positive and always have lovely kind words for others. With you on the bananas. Yuck. . O will only be eating them on daddy's watch.

Ah thanks sweetpea beware of the banana, it gets fucking everywhere.

Ripe avocado is another good easy first food Eliza - no preparation just mash up like a banana. Or even mix them. Very nutritious.

horsey I'm not sure. Years ago I did a module in social sciences, then a module in psychogy and in English, but I didn't do the exams as I was unable to get to an exam centre (long story but involves bastard ex boyfrien). I studied law for a while at brick uni but had to drop out for financial reasons.

My professional backgrond is law and finance based, so I should really do something along those lines, though I'm already working on a professional qualification.

But as I am not sure where I am going with work... Am thinking I could do something completely different like maths, or something sciencey, just to learn something completely new.

But I'll probably end up doing law.

barefoot it ended up with a stress fracture but I do love being barefoot - would love to run without shoes again but prob not wise! We too need to handle day time naps better - at the mo they're either on me or in the pushchair.

Some more good news for detective other than a brief sleep regression (sounds just like your experience horsey) things are going really well here now his reflux is under control. We seem to have established an 8-9pm bedtime ON HIS OWN!!! Just need to slowly bring that forward. And he's sleeping til 7-9am sometimes with a feed in the middle - sometimes not. He's also a lot less Velcro now - he'll kick happily on his mat for 20 mins at a time so I'm managing to get some stuff done - I showered today and hoovered yesterday. Put in that context I'm not going to begrudge naps cuddling on me . He's only really whiny when overtired or I've fucked up and eaten dairy. So reflux does not mean permanent hell - once treated you'll get your O back.

Eliza that sounds like real progress - well done Ella! Watch out for bananas and clothing they stain black!

PR other than timing which has to be later due to my wee mans dodgy tum your method of weaning really appeals and will be what I aim to do. Maybe with a bit of finger food but I love your emphasis on pureed fruit and veg rather than manufactured baby foods. I don't trust the companies either.

MM Friday would be lovely - shall I head to you? I hope you and your DP have had chance to talk with him taking you seriously and respecting your concerns.

Morning ladies!

Fucking washing up from last night's dinner waiting for me this morning. Honestly, 10 mins max it would take him while I'm trying to get babylaughalot to sleep, but instead it's sitting in the kitchen in all its crusty gloriousness for me to do in my spare time

As its sweary Wednesday take a look at gizoogle.net for a laugh. It works like google so search for something and see what comes up (if you have a twitter account try putting in your @name)

<a class="break-all" href="http://gizoogle.net/xfer.php?link=www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2124246/Samantha-Brick-downsides-looking-pretty-Why-women-hate-dope.html&sa=U&ei=vQw3UamXN8a1Paz-gNgL&ved=0CB0QFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHdZKQXVNsvil_F2NdQt3GnzQ5n2A" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here's what it did to that article written by Samantha Brick!!

Linky to gizoogle

Morning lovely arseholes.

Gosh we have been having our ups and downs recently.

to newbies. Special OMG to panda joining the BFP club. I am with detective on the lurker amnesty. Come on out ladies! We don't bite - we do swear a lot though.

valium prince seems to be on a snooze roll recently. Fist bumb for that!

I am another one who is massively impressed with he positivity of eliza's posts. I am so impressed with little E's weight gain. I told DH and he properly spluttered. What an amazing thing the little baby body is.

Hmm mm you are having a really shit time. Poor wee M seems to be unlucky with things and that is so wearing. What makes DP think that his sleep is more important than yours? Especially when he is on shore leave. Things definitely don't sound great but don't make life decisions in times of stress. Just take a mental note of how supported you feel and address things when you are feeling more on an even keel. I always think trying to tackle issues in high emotion leaves you open to accusations of being hysterical and so on. I know you have a pretty good support network close by you but if you need to offload to a stranger I am close by and always looking for meatball opportunities

There are others having shit times - blonder? tits? bry? stunt? glenda? detective? Work, partners, poorly babies, older children. Lots of virtual handholding on its way for you.

horsey I hope you and DH are ok the next few days. How about FIL? I know he can be tough? Oh, and PM me your address dude and I will get those IG to you.

I am glad I was not barefoot this morning - bumped into a friend walking home from school, moved to the side to let folk pass, and squish! Fucking dog owners! Not on pram though thank fuck.

J seems to be developing a bit of a pattern - bed around 9.30 and up at around 6.30, which fits in perfectly with my day. Waking 2 times inbetween usually, sometimes once, sometimes three times. This will get better, and he will sleep earlier in time. All naps in cot or pram. Only occasional days, usually at weekends when I am frazzled and he is overstimulated by his siblings, does he need to settle on me, and if he does, he usually transfers ok.

Right, my filthy house is calling me...

Dog poop on pavements is disgusting. It's awful where I live - I am constantly looking down to make sure I don't push the buggy through any.

P is a super-awesome champion sleeping super star - at night time. Day time can be a trial. On Monday I went to my parents to visit as my sister was there with her baby. The whole time we were there P took 2 very reluctant 30 minute naps in the car seat after much rocking, shooshing and crying. My sister's wee boy would fall asleep on a washing line. It is incredible how relative everything is though. I think P is a champion and I don't really mind the nap issues usually. It can be a bit tough when she gets really hysterical but we manage. My sister however was constantly anxious about her wee boy being tired and needing to sleep. Once he cried for about 1 minute then fell asleep on her with his wee legs dangling. P would be having an apoplexy if I tried that.

hello barefoot
shit just remembered yesterday was the day we dtd to conceive dd meant to pick up a card to write on for dh thank you for fucking me a year ago!
mm yes you have to talk things through I think men don't pick up on things as we do or would expect. fed dd and she is sleeping on me again going to go for another transfer to get an extra nap.
ps. lot of talk on here bout nappy changes I don't change dd all night unless code Brown so she will go down easier. am I a bad mummy is everyone else changing through the night!
I am very excited about weening not had hv visit or talk though understood they did here circa 14 weeks.

yellow I will be adding finger food from six months ish - or when she seems ready. It's so funny watching them grab it and try and get it in the mouth. Hand eye co-ordination still needs to be learned. DD1 would pick up a piece of omelette, open her mouth and then poke herself in the eye with it. Was so funny. I know, I'm mean.

contra I have never changed a nappy during the night unless it's been a shitty one. Before DD1 was born someone advised me not to and I am so glad, as I would have continued the wake, change, feed, sleep routine overnight.

Contra that's a brilliant idea for a card!

As for nighttime nappy changes I leave the bottom of her grobag unzipped so that I can reach in and feel if she's wet or not. If she's dry I leave her, if I can feel wet I change her. I'll change her in her cot too, to try and minimise how much she wakes up. She hasn't had a dirty nappy at night for weeks, just wet so I just whip the wet one out and replace with a dry one, then clean her bum when she wakes. Does this make me a bad mummy?

Does sound like there are some tough times all round at the moment. Hopefully things will get better for us all soon.

I don't change nappies at night here unless it seems to be bothering him and he can't settle.

I can't wait for weaning. Will be starting at 26 weeks and am planning on a mix of BLW and purees. Agree with PR and YW about leading.
with fruit and veg. Will be starting with veg, so that savoury tastes are introduced before sweet. Is there a point to baby rice?

O is being very trying today. Fighting feeds and not sleeping well. Baby group later so trying to make sure he naps well. Had an over tired meltdown last week when all the other babies were perfectly behaved. Was very

Really don't want to go to the group but know that I must as I can feel my old depression knocking at the door again.

miss I don't change M at all at night unless it leaks or she poos which she tends to save until 7am

That should be to contra