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October 2011 - Learning to accept our babies are toddlers

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ClimbingPenguin · 18/02/2013 12:51

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I've hired someone to get all our babies to sleep while we go get sloshed in the corner

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Engelsemama · 03/08/2013 10:22

M was hysterical last night as he wss so tired. Will make sure he gets a proper nap this afternoon. With the heat he hasn't been eating a lot. Had an hour playing in the garden this morning while I tried to tame the jungle that has sprung up over the past month. Cooled down a bit now which should help.

Hi lp . We are also ttc dc2. Just ordered some ovulation sticks...exciting! (Though goodness knows how long it'll take this time).

PenelopeLane · 04/08/2013 09:58

Nice to see you again killa/LP

Hope the jetjag gets better engels. Jetlag sucks, especially when it happens once the holiday buzz is over. Exciting about the ov sticks as well!

Duck I just can't imagine how hard it must be!

I had a fright today - bleeding, at almost 32 weeks. So I ended up spending much of today hooked up to various monitors at the hospital. They're still not 100% what is was but a prelim scan showed what could possibly be a low lying placenta, and I have to go back tomorrow for another scan that should be able to be definitive. I'm not sure what it would mean if that was the outcome, but apparently it may mean a much higher chance of an ECS, I feel a bit drained about the whole thing, but looking forward to tomorrow and hopefully having some more definitive answers!

Did any of you have either of those things? I have no clue really

strawberrypenguin · 04/08/2013 10:52

No idea I'm afraid pen but fx everything is ok how scary for you xx

Hi killa nice to see you back Smile

glad you had a good holiday eng hope the jet lag clears up soon!

Engelsemama · 04/08/2013 10:52

Sounds scary pen. Sending you a big hug.

MummyDuckAndDuckling · 04/08/2013 10:58

Pen, I had a low laying placenta. It was picked up at my 20 week scan. I was warned that I HAD to go to hospital if I had even a spot of bleeding as it would most likely be from placenta. Thankfully I didn't! It was explained that if it hadn't moved up then I would be booked in for c sec at 38 weeks. I had another scan at 32 weeks and it had moved up enough out if the way that I could deliver myself.

Hope everything is ok!

KillashandraRee · 04/08/2013 21:26

Oh Pen hope everything is ok. My DSis had same on first pg but it moved just like mummyduck's did. Fingers crossed yours will be the same.
Although having seen said DSis two weeks ago after her ELCS for DC #2 I'm not sure it's a bad way to go, she looked amazing after the op, they knew what day he was coming and it was booked a week earlier than his DD, she had no labour to go through and she's healed so well the scar already looks amazing. Have to admit I was a little Envy

Engels how exciting, I've haven't summed up the courage yet to buy sticks. It's took months for DH to come around to idea of ttc and then as soon as I came off the pill the sex practically stopped as he was panicked about me getting pregnant because he's too busy (even though a baby isn't going to pop out right now!) we're just getting back on track but I think if I bought sticks it might make him hyperventilate. It's tough as I'd hoped to have DC2 around the time E was two so I feel like the clock is ticking.

Have bump pics been posted yet? Very exciting for you three.

ipswichwitch · 05/08/2013 21:43

mummyduck, N loves Barry the fish with fingers - he's not t all emotional about it just shouts Barry at the top of his voice, waggles his fingers and is very impressed with puffys bubble blowing! He does try to help the babies at nursery if they start crying. He tries to pat them on the back and tried giving a little boy a dummy, completely ignoring the fact that little boy doesn't have a dummy!!! Gives me hope for when this one shows up :)

chesh, I will get a bump pic done, I feel blimmin huge! Bit helped by lady in asda who gave me a look of horror and pity when I told her I'm 21 weeks (she asked!), then said "were you that big with your first?" Confused

ipswichwitch · 05/08/2013 21:50

pen, hope everything is ok - no experience of low lying placenta, but my cs was a doddle. Took 45 min and the scar is tiny. Fingers x it's nothing to worry about and you get some answers.

PenelopeLane · 05/08/2013 23:33

Thanks for the nice messages! I had a second scan yesterday and it's not as bad as previously thought as the placenta's not as low as first thought which is good. The whole experience left me really drained though and I have taken today off work just to recover mentally if that makes sense.

A bit a boy at creche yesterday so is clearly failing in the empathy stakes at present Hmm

ipswichwitch · 06/08/2013 17:58

Glad to hear good news pen. Having the day off was a good plan - the stress and worry is so tiring. Due to N being a crappy sleeper lately (he was sleeping through for a while) I took a day off last week but kept him in nursery and the rest did me the world of good. Re the biting, kids have amazing timing don't they! Did they say if you'd still have a higher chance if having a cs?

TallyBear · 06/08/2013 21:19

Pen No wonder you're drained. At least it's not as bad as thought.

Eng Seb's not really started the whole emotion thing and like M is also really only on single words or perhaps only a few together ('all gone mummy' and the like). Sometime when I ask him things he understands and sometimes he completely ignores me. He has a go at most words, although about 50% of them don't really sound like they should. Dh was half asleep the other day when a door slammed and he said 'Shit', followed by Seb saying 'dit'.

Glad you had a great trip - was interesting to hear as we are starting to look at our NZ trip. Did you do stopovers on the way there and back? I'm thinking a 24h flight will be too much for a 2 1/2yo and I really want to see Hong Kong and Singapore. Or maybe Fiji! Does anyone know anything about campervan hire in NZ?

Ips, that so sweet with N patting others on the back. Smile

4 weeks 'til holibobs!! Grin. Can't wait!

Engelsemama · 07/08/2013 07:58

S is obviously working on his Dutch tally Grin (dit means this in Dutch)

ips I live for the days that M is at nursery and I?m at home (like yesterday and today). I either get loads done in the house, enjoy slobbing out or go out and have fun with friends. I love spending time with M, I love having family time and I love going to work, but sometimes I need space for myself as well (and I think that?s even more important when you?re pg!).

pen look after yourself. Glad the 2nd scan was more positive.

killa (you sound like a rapper!) part of the battle for me is that ttc last time (and our lack of success and subsequent mc) is what brought on DH?s depression. He?s not doing great atm (back to work after a great holiday, bald patch getting bigger ? he can?t hide it now). I don?t want it to get worse if we don?t succeed. Also his Ads affect his libido so getting him in the mood for DTD can be difficult ? I feel like I?m throwing myself at him sometimes! (and tmi I really think your 30s are a woman?s sexual peak ? I have a much higher sex drive than when I was in my 20s! Grin Sorry for being so crude Blush ). I need to start testing for LH peak when I get back from England on Monday

We didn't do proper stopovers tally. Was planned to be 4 hours stopover in Hong Kong on the way, but flight from Holland was delayed so we had a manic 90 minutes as we had to get to the transfer desk (half way across airport) to get our boarding passes. On the ay back we did a 5 hour stopover in Shanghai. Annoying as you have to collect your luggage and clear customs and immigration and then check in again (there are only a few airlines where you don't have to do this) so if you can avoid Shanghai I would (though we do all have Chinese stamps in our passports now!).

M slept for 8 hours on our first flight, but on the next would only sleep for 2 hours out of 11. Luckily on that flight we had great seats (bulkhead) and it wasn't quite full so we had a spare seat between us. On the way back he slept for 8 hours on the first flight (had bulkhead/spare seat again). The 2nd flight was a nightmare to begin with. They chucked someone off the plane for ?bad behaviour? so we had to wait for them to find his luggage and by then we had missed our slot so were delayed for another 2 hours on the plane. Was really really hot as we waited and M just couldn?t take it. He was screaming and squirming ? overheating and dehydrated. In the end the cabin attendant took us to the front galley where it was cooler and he soon calmed and cooled down. We ended up taking on extra fuel and taxiing somewhere they could put the engines and the air co on full, and once they did that it cooled down and he was fine (slept for 6 hours)

You will have to get S his own seat. I think they recommend bring a car seat (I think penguin knows more about that) and then he?ll get his own meal as well (you were right duck - M was scavenging from mine most of the time...or asleep when they brought it round!).

Air NZ were fab and really accommodating. I would definitely fly with them again. KLM I was not so impressed with, but may also have been circumstance (both flights were full). If we went again (which we definitely will! Just not for 5 years or so!) then I would try and fly via Singapore as SA are great and the airport is so lovely.

We rented a car which we did through our travel agent. There?s always a one way fee if you pick up and drop off in different islands and we had to pay a small fee for the car seat as well.

I would spend as much time as possible in the south island (I can?t remember if you?ve been before). Next time we go we will fly into Auckland and spend a few days with my best friend (if she?s still there which I reckon she will!) then fly to South and pick up a car, travel for 2-3 weeks, fly back to Auckland, see friend and then fly home. Though Dh is also talking about stopover in Fiji, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia......(basically everywhere he wants to go in Asia!).

Just dropped M at nursery. One of his ?keyworkers? (don?t know what they call them here) is leaving to go to the BSO (after school childcare) run by the same nursery. A shame as she?s so lovely. She was supposed to go last week so was really pleased to see her this morning and say goodbye.

Plan of action for today is to check car, fill up, get some shopping in (for DH but also want to get some bits to take back to UK like cheese for my parents and nice biscuits as presents for Dsis, DGPs and friends I?m going to see), pack and make sure I have all paperwork.

Am worrying about the fact I?m taking M on my own on the ferry. He has DH?s surname on his passport and ID card and my passport is still in my maiden name. Will I get stopped by passport control? I know they get really worried about child abduction/one parent taking kids out of country without permission. Not sure if I should take a letter signed by DH and a copy of his passport. (one of my friends got stopped by US immigration for 2 hours when she took 2 of hers home for a short visit without her husband).

Epic post!

PenelopeLane · 07/08/2013 09:27

Tally camper vans are easy to hire here and really popular, although depends on where you're picking them up etc. In terms of stopovers I haven't been but Singapore is supposed to be really good for kids as has a fab zoo etc and is small and easy to get around. Nov - March is the rainy season for Fiji though so would avoid going then if poss, although it might be ok if you don't mind a little rain!

Ips no higher chance of having a CS now either. I'd gotten used to the idea of a ECS, but no.

I have been sooo hormonal this week - crying at tv, crying while reading my book ("Monsters Call" by Patrick Ness if anyone's looking for a good YA to read!), getting cross with DH for no reason. I hope it settles down soon, I've not really had this moodiness before. It feels a little like the baby blues I had after A was born, but before if that makes sense. I think I need more sleep.

MummyDuckAndDuckling · 07/08/2013 09:28

Just quick..

Pen glad all is ok. Must have been stressful!

Engels I would take a letter of 'permission' (hate that!) from DH and a copy of passport. A friend of mine was the same and had a lot of hassle about it. No harm done having them I guess. In glad S has my surname for this reason!!

Engelsemama · 07/08/2013 09:50

I cried at that book too pen !

Just downloading some music for my road trip tomorrow. I feel like I don't have the time to "know' anything about music nowadays. I just chuck the radio on and don't know the name of any of the songs!

Have downloaded Bruno Mars, Ed Sheeran and Blush last week's top 40. What songs do people love at the moment?

PenelopeLane · 07/08/2013 09:59

Engels glad to know my shameless weeping at that book isn't just my hormones! Grin

ipswichwitch · 07/08/2013 18:13

N loves Bruno Mars, especially locked out of heaven. He giggles like a loon at the bits where he goes "ooh!"
pen, I'd best not read that book then. I blubbed at some dead pheasants on the motorway the other day! I be an emotional wreck with a whole book to sob at!

CheshireDing · 07/08/2013 19:58

Glad you're back and fx crossed for No2 Killa

I had low laying placenta with P Pene but if it's at the front they said it pretty much always moves up and out of the way (which it did) yes otherwise not choice but a cs as basically babies exit is blocked Grin Oh and we were told not to dtd very roughly or deep (iykwim) Blush

Hope everything goes okay Mummy with S's Dad. I said to P the other dog "Lewi is crying" (the dog - because he was whinging) and said looked said and said "aww" and she kept being very concerned about him when were on holiday and we told her to leave him alone because he was hot. So I suppose it's just about phrasing (we won't say the dog is crying again!), she has made comments about things/people being "funny" too when it has made her laugh. When I took her to nursery yesterday there was another boy crying and she went straight over and put her hand on his arm and peeped round at his face.

Although by the same token she still thinks it's funny to hit sometimes !

Conclusion - Toddlers are funny but very odd.

Our friend is coming to stay this weekend from Australia so off to ice my buns Grin

MrsHende · 07/08/2013 20:02

Pene, I'm jealous that you're pregnant but kinda glad I'm not you today! I hope you feel better tomorrow Thanks.

Engels, I'm afraid I do the same as you and just put on Radio 2 and listen! I do like Jake Bugg though, they've been playing a lot of him recently.

I'm on my FOURTH pair of trousers of the day! L got cream cheese on my first pair while we were out this morning, we had a nappy change nightmare this afternoon where she rolled in poo, rolled on me and then on the floor and finally this evening she squashed a tomato into my 3rd pair of jeans. I waited till she was in bed before I put on the 4th pair - pjs!

strawberrypenguin · 08/08/2013 15:06

Glad everything is ok pen

4 pairs of trousers mrsH that's got to be record!

Poor W has been off colour the last few days and vomited on his dinner plate last night. Virus I think so I'm at home with him today. He has discovered a love for Mr Tumble while he's been at home so I've now got those on series record for him as well as Postman Pat!

TallyBear · 11/08/2013 21:07

Thread's a bit quiet this weekend.

Pen thanks for the tips, Singapore is def a 1st choice, and I have an ex-workmate who might be able to show us round! Maybe we'll come back via Fiji!

Ches how were your buns? Wink

MrsH Toddlers eh?! Grin

Straw Aw, poor W.

Ok girls, I have a question? I think we're belatedly going to get a video monitor. Ours (audio) one has been on the blink for a while (it was a freebie anyway) and not only do I wish we'd got one I think we would disburb him less as we would know if he was really upset or just messing about (he's started throwing all his toys out the cot then wailing until we go up and then he's all grins and points proudly at what he's done - I have to shut the door until I've stopping laughing and come back in with a serious face on!). Anyway, we also think it will be useful on holiday as the night of the wedding we've been given a room at the venue that we can put Seb down in and stay over (the wedding doesn't start until 6pm!) and was taking to the girls the other day about how safe it was (or not) and someone suggested a video monitor so we can at least see him, rather than taking it in turns to sit with him. Long story short, any recommendations? As he's already 21 months I don't want to spend a fortune, £40-70 I think.

strawberrypenguin · 12/08/2013 07:22

I find a video monitor really helpful tally it's much easier to tell if he's moving about for a reason or just moving iykwim. Ours is a Tomy srv400 it's ok but it needed to be plugged in most of the time now. The picture is pretty good though. Not sure how much it was (or if its still available!) but I don't think it was one of the massively expensive ones!

KillashandraRee · 14/08/2013 07:27

No advice on video monitors sorry, we just have one with sensor mat and I still use it to make sure he's breathing

AF is due today....no sign yet. Bought a test yesterday but DH seems to be panicking again so haven't done it. Off to work shortly it's going to kill me waiting.... Argh!

MummyDuckAndDuckling · 14/08/2013 07:36

Oh keep us updated!! Smile

Engelsemama · 14/08/2013 08:36

cheshire I hope you got your buns iced alright Grin

mrsH I am really enjoying being at home right now so I can listen to radio 2 Smile Wish I could get it in my car.

I?ve just bought lots of new work clothes as I?m fed up of being a scruff at work (though after reading mrsH?s post am starting to wonder if it?s such a good idea (all many of things that could go wrong as I get M ready for nursery!).

Hope W is feeling better strawb

We don?t have a video monitor tally so can?t help with recommendations I?m afraid. Dh and I were actually wondering why we got a baby phone in the first place since 9 times out of 10 he just goes straight to sleep and sleeps through and if he does wake up we can hear him downstairs/in our bedroom anyway (our house really isn?t that big!). The big advantage at the moment is that if we do want to go out in the evening we leave M in bed and take the baby phone round next door to MIL (who obviously has a key to our house). Which we will be doing tomorrow night when we go out for dinner for our 2nd wedding anniversary Smile

Fx killa

Had a good weekend in UK with family though M got quite clingy. Think it was a combination of feeling unwell (he had a cold which he?s now given to me) and DH not being there (so often he was playing with my DM/Dsis and then I heard this desperate cry of ?Mama? Mama??.