November 2012 - More group hugs and moral support please

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1676013-November-2012-We-want-rattles-and-we-want-them-now

Phew. Just spoke to Halfords who we got battery from 18mths ago and they will replace it for free.

Some good luck! DP owes me and my smooth talk!

yw oh hmmmmmm i dont think so yesterday i had a bacon and egg buttie for lunch and then cheese n crackers for tea - only caffeine i have is 2/3 cups of tea a day - im useless at food control so i'll be buggered if she has an intolerance to anything.

mm thats crap - i had same thing when i went to manchester - arranged to see my brother and dad on saturday and my nan on sunday nothing to do with me wanting a roast lamb dinner and homemade apple pie but she must have moaned to my dad as her fancy man shes 86 lol goes round every sunday so the days got swapped, but missed out on spending day with my brother as he had to go home early sunday morning grrrrrrrr once a frickin year and she couldnt change arrangements!!! its piss poor when standing arrangements get cancelled for others - makes you feel like crud!!!! however mm you are definitely not crud xxx

I can't wait til pancakes tonight. Ham and cheese ones to start for DD1, then lovely sugary lemony yumminess for the rest of us.

DD1 is running round in just a vest and nappy. It's freezing in here. I suppose if she has a temperature she'll be fine won't she.

I just made cakes with my children. Jacob was more in an advisory role. It made us all happy (especially the eating when Jacob was asleep) I did not shout at all!

My sodding printer won't print either. It worked perfectly well until DP started pissing about with it

MM boo! Come round to my sisters after massage instead?

fabulous we're back to the "im so tired, but nothing is going to settle me so i'm just gonna be hysterical all afternoon and give mummy a breakdown" back to not liking me cos i dont know what the fuck she wants :(

LO prefers drinking her milk next to me sat in my feeding cushion, and won't drink in my arms anymore. Why? :(

Babies are contrary little buggers. I've got a farty one here this morning.

pr I had a soup disaster the other week when the blender broke mid-blend (only it wasn't the blender it was the plug socket, just didn't discover that for another 24 hours) - the soup looked like vomit so nobody else would eat it

andto those in need.

This morning went ok. Some glaring examples of inexperience, some bits were really good. I reckon I'm capable.

The enormity of having to leave R, and the whole fucked up situation, have now hit. Luckily I have GP later!

I'm gonna give up bf'ing - don't want to but Dottie prefers ff - after nothing would settle her I made an 8oz bottle and she's demolished 7ozs while I sit here sobbing

Sorry to be marvin off of hitchhikers guide but I have no rl friends close by and hv is 22 and I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing with her.

Think I might have pnd - it's not normal to think my baby doesn't like me. I have no patience and have contemplated walking out of the door.

glenda big hugs honey x sometimes babies prefer the bottle as it is easier. It does not mean she does not like you, just that she is a lazy bugger I think our emotions can change so very quickly according to how are baby is as we are intertwined with them. I am a new woman today because the little sod is happier and sleeping. I was getting quite worried about myself the other day. You are about to undertake a training course that is a pretty big deal - for anyone, let alone a mum of three, one being fairly small. You also have a few money worries, so life is bound to be challenging at the moment. Maybe Dotty having a bottle will actually be a good thing in the long run - not having to express at work, worry about leaks, share night feeds etc. cold comfort at the moment, and I understand how you feel this as rejection. They are too small to make conscious decisions, they are too small to hate you, they are the ultimate in selfish beings and they are made cute looking for a very good reason. Maybe make an appt with GP to discuss feelings?

Well done PP hope it goes ok at GP. Hope you hear good news about the job too x

Glenda firstly, have a hug and a cuppa.

Your baby doesn't hate you at all, I'm sure you are her world! If bfing isn't working and yourlife will be easier and happier with formula then use formula!

Next thing to do is get on the phone to the GP and make an appointment about the PND. Take it easy and look after yourself. You're doing a great job. :)

Forgot to wear a panty liner to Zumba.

Man just dinged on my bell to tell me my car door was open. I got back at 12:00. Double

(((((hugs Glenda))))) I know how that feels. Dd1 went on nursing strike when she was around 12 weeks. She would take a bottle but screamed blue murder if I tried to breastfeed her. It only went on for about 2 weeks and eventually she started feeding again, but it was the hardest, most emotional two weeks of my life. If you are happy stopping then do it, just remember, she's loves you, you are her mummy, you are her world.

Awwwww glenda hugs. She does like you, she loves you!! She just doesn't know it yet... I think others know more about PND than I, but its understandable that you feel like that. It becomes v personal when bfing & they seemingly reject us our milk. You have a lot of stress on & from what you said above, she may have a cold, so finding the bottle easier. Don't make any rushed decisions. Give her the formula & try again later when you're both calmer. And I've cried so much today that I keep wondering if I might have PND too, so you're not alone.

mm that's disappointing. I was looking forward to seeing friends yesterday & when they cancelled for illness I was v disappointed.

VQ of the making cakes. I want to with DD but my oven destroys cakes. Think bottom black & burnt, top soggy & sunken.:( Have to make do with shop bought instead.

pidj glad things went ok. Fingers crossed for you. Sorry its brought home to you your situation - you've a lot on your plate.

Text DH. He said sorry & will ring as soon as his lectures are done later. Think he was being typical male. I think I'm missing being me, so him not treating me like "me" & just almost overlooking me hurts, iyswim. Anyway, I've realised I feel a bit poorly so that can't help my mood.

Plus, I've got a flat tyre. Not sure how I can deal with that atm either!!!

Awwww glenda don't take it personally as the others said she just might find it easier right this minute.

I was upset earlier this week that despite making the decision to give him formula he took it so easily and my 12 weeks of running myself into the ground to make milk for him were just pointless. They are fickle little creatures.

Hugs chunky too.

VQ go you super mum!!

thank you all

im not happy stopping = it was my one big thing this time around - only managed a few weeks with dd1 but as i wasnt working where iam now and didnt know what i do now about bf'ing.

i am ok about her having formula as i have no way of expressing when at uni and dont want to add to my stress but i wanted to bf her while shes at home (weekends/evenings) to help us keep our mummy/daughter bond

thinking back to when i had dd1 i dont think i had pnd but i had unhealthy obsession that she was going to be taken by paedophiles even to the point of not letting dh be alone with her ffs hmmmmm maybe it could have been pnd??? i dont friggin know - for the majority of the time im ok but recently having big highs - whoop whoop im going to uni, everything is fab to big lows.

(((Hug))) Glenda. Definitely see your GP, or a different HV. or SureStart even. PND is serious but very easily treated once diagnosed. As already said, they're selfish little buggers! But that tiny head doesn't have the capacity for higher level thought processes yet - right now its "how do I get food easily and quickly"

gelnda from someone who beat herself only a few weeks back about ds never once latching on and bf I know how you feel. However, it's ok you know!! Ff doesn't kill them!!! He's lazy, he's obviously not yet a breast man :) he prefers a piece of plastic because it's easier and for whatever reason he has a very poor sucking reflex. He loves mummy cuddles lots!! And I never have to worry about when to stop bf!! Or mastitis or anything like that!!

See ladies :) I'm getting over it!!

My ergo arrived today :) it's very girlf :) lol

Babies are indeed little sods a law unto themselves. DS was asleep but starting to stir. Get him on my lap, boob out, but he won't open his mouth wide enough, so I unlatch him. Well, you'd have thought I'd stuck a pin in him the noise he made!! Open your mouth then you silly sausage!!!

epds quiz

answer these questions chunky it says have you felt like this in past 7 days and i scored 19 - my gp has got my university occie health declaration to sign so i'll make an appt to see him after i get that back.

hope you feel better soon chunky xx

pikz those 12 weeks were not wasted. You have given your LO a superb start, and gained superstardom with us x

horsey good to hear