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November 2012 - More group hugs and moral support please

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StuntNun · 08/02/2013 23:19

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1676013-November-2012-We-want-rattles-and-we-want-them-now

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ChunkyChicken · 12/02/2013 13:57

pikz ^^ exactly that.

ChunkyChicken · 12/02/2013 13:58

It lost my arrows!! Confused

glendathefedupwitch · 12/02/2013 14:01

pikz I concur with VQ

Pikz · 12/02/2013 14:39

The point is we are all doing brilliantly. I think we should have love in Tuesday :D

Horsey am finally getting to read that bottled up. It's brilliant and also your advice you gave me is working in terms of how to manage the bottles.

Passmethecrisps · 12/02/2013 14:42

I see we are having Twisty Tuesday!

Afternoon ladies.

glenda you know Dottie doesn't hate you but you have SO MUCH to think about that I am not surprised you feel rejected. P is simply too lazy for BF. she had the perfect latch - lay there hooked on but would not actually suck. Even now with bottles she will lie there just letting it slowly drip down her throat! Be kind to yourself and know that you will get nothing but virtual hand holding here.

chunky I know what you mean about not feeling yourself therefore not being treated as such. I sit sometimes at dinner struggling for anything to say other than about P. I have given up and have just accepted that she is my world therefore my chat is about her. DH has to jump aboard my train or lose out.

MM ya boo sucks to no mum time. Get together with YW and share a packet of wine gums.

VQ hi-5 for a semi-reasonable amount of sleep and making half-term your cake-making bitch!

Hi-10 to horsey for being chillaxed about FF. I realised the other day that I am 100% happy with where we are. Categorically no regrets. I was watching p holding on to my fingers like handles maneuovering the bottle in and out of her mouth sometimes her eyeballs and smiling and I realised she is a happy, happy baby. Also, she caught the same cold that DH and I have been hammered by - she is full on not bothered.

PP when do you find out about the post? I understand your anxiety now. Weird thought.

Oh and MM what a weird business about the job app. Sales?

Wonder how GT is?

StuntNun · 12/02/2013 14:49

That sounds like a normal way to feel Glenda. My DS1 loved the bottle as well and would have been much happier on bottles 24/7 (like Horsey's baby my DS1 never latched on.)

It's not wasted Pikz you've gone above and beyond the call if duty with all that expressing. But you've done enough now and it's time to give yourself a break. Think about all those lovely antibodies you've been supplying all this time.

I'd love to hear about weaning in France PR. I went against the guidelines with DS2 and weaned at 16 weeks due to his lactose overload problems.

Tell your DH that you want him to give you a big kiss when he gets home Chunky. Men are stupid unobservant, he won't figure it out for himself but if you tell him how much you like it then I'm sure he'll oblige!

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ValiumQueen · 12/02/2013 15:14

At the park! Get me! With kids obviously.

I too am keen to hear about the french way PR

BigPigLittlePig · 12/02/2013 15:33

glenda and chunky It sounds as though you could have had an element of pnd last time glenda - sometimes depression can manifest itself as increased anxiety. I'm glad you're going to get yourself checked out.

Weighed LO today - 10lbs 9oz at 11 weeks (6 weeks corrected). She's doubled her birth weight as predicted Smile

gardenpixie32 · 12/02/2013 15:40

Got to Waitrose and as promised by Customer Services, a twin trolley was waiting for me in the under cover parking, however, it was utterly filthy! The seat where the babies were supposed to sit were disgusting! I had to clean them and used up nearly a whole pack of baby wipes. I always put a blanket on first anyway but it was far too dirty for that. Trek up to customer services with the dirty wipes in the trolley and complained very politely. They said they would give me a voucher for the inconvenience. Turns out, they let me have my shopping for free! 98 quid! I am smiling now Grin

BigPigLittlePig · 12/02/2013 15:48

garden that's amazing

Sophiathesnowfairy · 12/02/2013 15:57

vq baking cakes with inFant supervision sounds lovely. I am glad you had a nice time.

glenda just and Thanks I am not one to advise on bfing but I know I have tried to with three out of four and not really done very well. I empathise with the emotions giving up gives rise to. Having a happy baby AND a happy mummy is priceless and if neither of you are at the mo then you need to try something new.

mm can I come for luncheon?

Bit late now though. Sad

Sophiathesnowfairy · 12/02/2013 15:58

Bloody hell garden go Waitrose. Write them a thank you note you might get some more!

applepieinthesky · 12/02/2013 16:11

That's awesome garden £98 worth wow.

Absolutely knackered here so my mum has taken DS for a few hours so I can get some sleep. So here I am on MN Grin I really should try to sleep.

Elizadoesdolittle · 12/02/2013 16:19

Bit late to the party but happy birthday dicks

pr I'd like to hear about how you wean in France. It fascinates me how different country's do it so differently. Babies are the same no matter where they are born. I won't be judgy pants. You should know our little group better than that by now. You won't get shot down for differing opinions.

And big hugs glenda sometimes E does the whole nipple stretching thing to be too and it bloody hurts. I know you want to keep on bf but if you can't it really is no big deal, although of course at the moment it feels like it is. She loves you more than she loves anyone else in the world. I don't really have any advice for you but speaking to a qualified person in rl will hopefully help you sort out your emotions.

DD1 driving me insane today. Am having to do a lot of biting my tongue but not very successfully. Think she will be packed off early to bed tonight!

PetiteRaleuse · 12/02/2013 16:21

DD1 temp back up and has vommed spectacularly all over my bed. Managed to hit every piece of bedding. Stinks. Ugh. Poor baby girl.

ValiumQueen · 12/02/2013 16:27

Bloody hell garden I am guessing that was an error. No shop is that generous surely?

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 12/02/2013 16:27

garden amazing!

glenda nothing really to add but you have a lot on your plate so give yourself a break and see your GP if you need to. And Dottie adores you. You are her mummy.

dicks many happy returns.

VQ DD and I bake lots, we love it, such a nice way to spend time together, especially in this cold!

PR I'm interested too.

GT hope all ok.

Had a busy day. Took DD to gymnastics for toddlers. fell out with DH while we built flatpack play kitchen for DD. DH taken DS for second jabs. All fairly ok here, except DH and I are falling out regularly. Typical post-baby, tired, stuff I think.

ValiumQueen · 12/02/2013 16:27

PR Sad

PetiteRaleuse · 12/02/2013 16:41

I'm not sure if the way I wean in the French way - my paediatrician is in Luxembourg, but over here it is definitely our months ish as the norm. Most people start with baby rice but she advised me not to, so the way I did it with DD1, which worked for us was:

Four to six months:pureed fruit and veg only. Started with courgette, carrot, apple and pear, then sweet potato and banana. Spoonful here, spoonful there, just for the taste really. Bland on the stomach, not at all filling, just eating training.

Then from about 22 weeks adding meat (minced beef, ham and chicken before pork and lamb, which are harder to digest) and fish (cod or similar), potatoes. By seven months lumps and finger food rather than puree, more fish like salmon etc, omelette, and a wider and wider variety of fruit and veg. Rice introduced before pasta, then bread (gluten reasons)

V much a mix, except at the beginning, of puree and finger foods. Cows milk introduced in cooking very gradually from about 8months, yoghurts if that goes ok.

She eats anythign and everything now except potatoes. Basically just stayed very relaxed about the whole thing and didn't force mush down her face. By six months she was demanding her own spoon to try and feed her self.

The main difference is how early we start, and when I explained BLW to my paediatrician she laughed in my face. Partly for the choking thing, but partly because she believes that puree is a good way to try a whole load of tastes. Everything needs t be tried several times before they decide if they like it, and BLW is seen as encouraging fussiness and she even used the dreaded words "l'enfant roi" which means king-child - the idea frowned upon here that the children are the centre of decisions. Old fashioned for you guys, but here children are not seen and not heard, but baby led anything isn't done. Don
.t be offended, just saying that's how it is different.

ChunkyChicken · 12/02/2013 16:47

Thanks glenda for the quiz. Don't think I have pnd as can be ok most days. Just today v low. Stupidly I feel better for having pumped up the flat tyre...

madam sympathies. Flatpack is an argument waiting to happen IME!! But know what you mean about falling out. Trying not to think its anything sinister, like you say, just post baby stuff but my emotions are a bit all over the place, so its hard.

pass I know - I should just tell him stuff anyway, but part of me thinks he must find me boring too, you know?

I am just going online to find an exercise class to do, as I clearly need something to get my head cleared!!

PetiteRaleuse · 12/02/2013 17:03

garden that's so cool

My poor DD1 has just demanded milk. Getting a bucket ready. She' very hot and cuddly. This is bringing back some bad memories.

ValiumQueen · 12/02/2013 17:03

PR do not apologise, we asked. It is interesting to hear different approaches.

I feel like I have been a good mummy today, for the first time since LO was born. I score very highly on the PND test based on the last week, but fine based on today. I asked DH last night if he had any concerns about my mental health - gosh! Talk about bunny in headlights! He is very eloquent when he tries, and gave the right answer.

ValiumQueen · 12/02/2013 17:04

PR do you think it is a tummy bug or respiratory?

gardenpixie32 · 12/02/2013 17:05

Grin not a mistake, they at check out, floor manager came over to apologise and said the whole shop was complimentary! The trolley was pretty bad and there was a mountain of filthy wipes in the trolley. Plus two small babies sitting the trolley looking utterly fed up! He said that because I had phoned before hand, the girl at customer services shouldn't have left such a dirty trolley for me. It was the only trolley there for 2 babies. I am very impressed with the good customer services Grin a good day!

ValiumQueen · 12/02/2013 17:11

Wow garden

pass can I borrow P for a trip to Waitrose, and I will split the profits? Grin