November 2012 - More group hugs and moral support please

[StuntNun]

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1676013-November-2012-We-want-rattles-and-we-want-them-now

Down with snot Tuesday!!

Second time round is easier for lots of things. I also wasn't prepared for how guilty I would feel for DD1 though.

I've been awake pretty much constantly since 2. DD1's temp went down to an acceptable level but she spent the rest of the night gripping on to me for dear life. LO finally went back to sleep but is up and doing now.

Going to keep DD1 home from creche this morning. I feel like I pay more to that place for her not to go than I do for her to go. We're stopping end of next month and I really wanted her to make the most of every day there :(

I'll take her to the Dr tomorrow if no improvement. This all feels nevending.

PR sorry DD is ill again & you had a terrible night. It's the time of year isn't it? I took DD to the Dr the other day & said that since Boxing day she seems to be suddenly getting a high temp out of nowhere, then symptoms develop, then she improves slightly, then the temp goes up again overnight, then she's well again for a few days. The Dr said it was prob just the time of yr... She's just finished her 2nd course of antibiotics in as many months!!

Thinking about it - DS might have woken because he was cold. That's the one prob I have with sleeping bags. If your room starts out warm & cools down, you either have to risk them being a bit warm at first or getting cold, waking to then putting another layer on them... At least blankets etc you just put another one over them!!

Ds did the same as yw ds!!!

I dont know what to do?! He's downing 9ozbottles ?!! He's just so hungry. Do I offer more after each feed? Do I try hungry baby? Do I speak to the hv?!

I would just give him more milk Horsey. If he's approaching some developmental leap then he may be doing some intense neurological development work and need the extra calories. This is why a lot of babies get started on solids too soon, they suddenly get hungrier and people assume it's because they aren't getting enough calories from milk. Whereas in face milk has more calories per ounce than some mushed up carrot. The MN guide to weaning here is really good.

I have to say I found DS2 much easier than DS1 and DS3 is the easiest yet. Apart from the sleep dep which I'm finding a bit of a killer but tbh that's probably due to my age as well. It's definitely easier having a baby when you're 26 than when you're 36.

J was dreadful yesterday evening. He didn't sleep for three hours so by 8:30 he was overtired. It didn't help that he would scream blue murder cry whenever DH held him and stop when I held him. We tried everything - putting him in his cot, bath, story, feeding to sleep, swing, cuddling. If it wasn't for experience with DS1 I probably would have put him in the car and driven him around but with DS1 he would wake as soon as you tried to put him into his cot.

J's passport arrived yesterday. It's very cute. Hah now we can jump to the front of the queue at the airport on Saturday don't get me started on the Speedy Boarding people who pay to get in front of small children and disabled people. I have to single-handedly get three kids, one pushchair, two suitcases and three pieces of hand luggage through Manchester airport at the other end. This is going to suck isn't it?

DS keeps rolling on to his side in his cot. He clearly likes sleeping like that but isn't 13wks a bit early for that??!

stunt yes, yes it is. :)

Thanks stunt. I looked at hungry baby it doesn't have many more calories but does have extra protien? I'll just offer more milk. It's not a problem. It's just seems like a huge volume of food!!

He's not ready for weaning. I've got no intention to do that!!

Might see if anyone makes bigger bottles.

J woke again at 4.30 and took an hour to settle. He is still asleep. That is pretty much 10 hours sleep out of 12. Hmm. Too good to be true?

stunt who's idea was it to do that? Yes, it will suck. Hopefully they will help you.

PR at least you are not at work. I hate it when they miss a day at nursery, plus I need a day unpaid leave to care for them. Over £100 lost effectively. Very frustrating. DD missed a whole week recently, and was unwell the weekend before and after.

horsey he is clearly happy and thriving. Be grateful I say, and just give him more milk.

stunt my HV said to give rice and apple at 20 weeks. I am now thinking this is not so good. She says it may help fill him up and is non allergenic. Even though less calories, would it take longer to digest hence keeping him full longer? Hopefully he has turned a corner so it will not be an issue.

VQ DS1 is going to push the pushchair and I'm going to handle the suitcases. I'll take the baby carrier for getting from the plane to the luggage carousels. I'm an old hand at this but it's the first time with three of them.

I'm not sure about apples being non-allergenic, I know two people who are allergic to apples. Don't they usually recommend to start with pureed root veg?

stunt yep it is. Maybe you can get some help.

Olly says "I thank you" for all his rolling congrats.

Good night here. I reduced his 10pm feed to five oz because he hasn't been eating his breakfast properly, he woke and chatted away at 5. I was lying in bed thinking oh no please don't shout for food. But he went back to sleep. I prized him out of bed at 6:45 and he actually had most of his milk. Obviously as we all know there is no guarantee that tonight the same will happen

Boo for * detective's" yesterday, hoe snot Tuesday is better for you. Can't wait till sweary Wednesday!

vq i know a girl who weaned at 20 weeks because of intolerances and all was hunky dory. I am going to start slowly then anyway but without cutting back on the milk.

vq Yey! Good boy :)

In related news, the 4 month regression period may be over now, after a week Babies woke at 1am, 3am and 5am, which is far more like they were at before. I feel like I have had a lie-in ignores fact babies were awake for an hour each time and so have had about four and a half hours sleep. S is saved from going in the bin. For now

AFAIK it's fine to start weaning any time between 17 and 26 weeks (there are different guidelines for preterm babies) but it should be when your baby is showing the correct signs of being ready for solids. That MN article is very helpful.

I usually start with baby rice, pear, then carrot and go through the root veg then. Thought apple was later as is quite a strong taste.

Funny horsey I wondered what happens when a baby takes more that 9oz. P is a loooooong way from that but I do wonder

Interesting article thanks stunt as I said (I think!!) he's not ready for weaning yet and I'm in no rush either!!

pass yes I know?! Dh and I were saying, when we were in hospital I was in tears at the fact he had to eat 50ml at each feed (near enough) before we could go home. I could only just about get him to eat 10ml!! Then he suddenly started ramping up the volume of feed and hasn't really slowed down!! Which is incredible for a baby who's gone from 60th to 25th. Anyway he's happy, healthy so something must be right!! I'll just offer more. It's not really an issue.

Obviously I reserve the right to change my mind on that and keep him a baby till he is 15 put it off if he is not ready

Morning everyone!

Well done baby VQ! Sounds like you had a much better night.

Happy birthday to me! I had planned on going out shopping, a nice lunch etc, but dd1 has a virus and woke me up vomiting again. It looks like my birthday will be spend watching CBBC. Boo! I'll mostly be having my own pity party today

My sis didn't manage to introduce apple until quite late as its very acidic - a dreadful first food to suggest for a baby with potential acid reflux

I can't even go to the damn supermarket without it being a hassle!

I want to shop at Waitrose today & phoned before hand to see if they have shopping trollies for 2 babies (like all the other supermarkets do). You would think I would get a simple response but no, they can't answer my question and need to ring me back! So frustrating. Bet they don't have and I wont be getting the lovely food I had planned to buy thinking about leaving one baby at home

Phew, they have them!

I think I am going to avoid the weaning discussions on here. We do it very differently. It worked with DD1 so will do the same with DD2. Not yet though. Dd1 was 17 weeks and ready. Dd2 will be 17 weeks on Friday and not ready yet. The Dr wants me to try before our next appointment on March 7 so that we can talk over any problems, so I've got a few weeks.

Happy birthday Dicks

stunt maybe ring the airline to book assistance? I did when travelling from glasgow to reading on the train whilst 8 months pregnant with a 2 year old. Virgin trains v helpful at the start of the journey and helped with my bag - went completely tits up when train was delayed and i missed my reserved train connection but did get £50 vouchers when i complained about having to sit in the corridor on the floor for 2 hours as a result!! To be honest, there were so many people on the last train we had no hope of making it to the seats to even ask whether someone could give theirs up.

Very proud of my little munchkin this morning!

We had 2 oz at 5pm last night, 1oz at 7 then went to bed at half 8 and didnt wake up til 4am!! Drank her whole 4oz bottle and just had another. Might be on to a winner today!

Thanks PR, you don't know how much those flowers have cheered me up! I opened my present from Dsil to find she had bought me chocolates, great, was about to eat one and realised they are all DARK CHOCOLATE! I hate dark chocolate, I actually shed a tear.