November 2012 - Don't forget the tummy time

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Quick mouth thrush question.

L got it when he had a bad cold and we got give nystatin gel for his mouth. It cleared but is now back 2 days since finishing. Should I be asking for something different? This mouth gel is hard to get into him. Not sure where it is coming back from as cold water sterilising everything and he is on expressed only so not from me.
He chews his hand a lot and I wonder if this is why he's got it back? It's mainly on inside of his lips.

pikz no nothing about thrush, but sorry you are having a poo day. < hugs>

What a plonked notso

Great news yw share the details.

*plonker.

Bloody hell. Shouldn't have watched this weeks call the midwife. :(

Oscar conked out after his bath tonight. Took less than 1oz. I think he will be awake before 12 . I'm not used to having a sleeping baby by 9pm! Normally that's when we start bedtime! He did wake himself back up, as the swaddle was in the drier and not ready, so he twatted himself over and over when I put him in the basket. Had to improvise with a sheet. He was too tired to feed though. Poor bugger!

I am thinking this is growth spurt material?! He has definitely fed more the last 2 days, and slept longer in the day. He is 9 weeks, but should really be 12.

I am considering retraining as a HV.

I think I would be a sensible one.

However it would be a big pay cut.

Hardly incentive.

I always said I didn't want to be a HV. Ever ever ever.

I'm think the same for the great whinger miss P. she was 5 days late so we could also be in growth spurt territory.

pikz maybe ask for daktarin gel. If the nystan is liquid it might not be coating the inside of the lips. P's thrush lasted weeks until we were on daktarin when in went after 2 days

Pros and cons det? Workin hours? Flexibility? Interest in the role? Prospects? Etc. let's get a list going

It always comes down to finances for us.

As the main wage earner, it would be irresponsible of me to consider dropping my wage unless we could afford it. I'm not sure how we can. We don't have extravagant cars, a normal sized house/mortgage, we don't go on holiday, have lots of meals out, we don't smoke or drink, we have no debt. So WTF do we never have any bloody money?!

Okay, so the Next clothes don't help. But other than spending money on my children in the way of birthday/christmas, and clothes, we don't buy anything else! We get films for free . Mine and DP's clothes are Primark, odd bits from New Look if I'm lucky.

We don't even have any savings. Other than what I saved by working myself in to the ground while I was pregnant.

I guess everything is just more expensive. I suppose we are in the 'squeezed middle' or some such.

Oh, and the constant car repairs can't help either! And I'd like to say the house repairs, but I usually ignore what needs repairing til it's beyond hope.

very mad at dh ... dd was crying after 3rd time of trying to put her down age had been feeding from 7 til just now virtually non stop he said shall I pick her up cos she built up to the crying he did for about 4 mins then put her back crying just as much

asked why he said there was nothing he could do settled her the littlest bit by rocking crib then asked if he minded if I went to loo dying for a wee its ridiculous!!!
when I come back up she is really bawling and I ask why he hasn't picked her up he says nothing he can do ... he tried one attempt at settling her for 4 mins ... he says he is tired ...grrr again he gets to sleep 11-7 most nights a few he stirs for one of the feeds that is all! . grrrr
And he had just been saying we should count ourselves lucky re how good d is ... I do compared with some of the behavior on mn but she isn't on his tits for 4-6 hours in the eve and again he gets to sleep 11-7 grrrrrrr I cried as I settled her when I got back from loo he asked what was wrong ... I said I couldn't talk then cos I would say something I regret ... regretted being totally honest in the moment re his drinking at the start !!! a few more and a ...phew feel little better now... so stressed bout going back to work to take d in tommorow think that's adding to everything!

sorry wow that looks long! no biscuit icon on here ( phone app)

det - finances is a pretty big con think it may be an overriding one no matter how many pros there are... expect we all can't help thinking what we would do with a bit more money... I have lottery fantasies where I just win like 20k or something (as opposed to millions).
my dd is coming up for 8 weeks hoping leap will mean some kind of miracle change...this rate her sleeping at 9 would feel like I had my evenings back!

As far as I'm concerned zcos that post needed no biscuit and no apology either. You need to sound off. It is massively frustrating to feel like you are soul person in charge especially when you are so knackered.

My DH is 99% awesome but even he can make me bite my tongue with 'what's wrong with her?' 'I DON'T FUCKING KNOW but it'll be me who has to work it out' is what I want to say!

Sorry your having a bad night zcos it does sound like you've got it tough if your partner isn't helping :(

We are upstairs feeding. J was asleep but woke when we pit him in sleeping bag so I decided to see if he would feed in the hope he goes longer tonight. Last night was good. He woke once but fed for over an hour which is not good :( no idea what tonight will bring.

tits if you are still reading how is your pelvic pain?? I'm struggling quite badly with mine and wondered how other spd sufferers were doing? I feel like I'm going to be permanently sore :(

Oh Crikey detective don't talk to me about car repairs! Genuinely and seriously, we could have set up quite a nest egg had we been able to save cash we have thrown at our cars in the last year. Enough is enough.

Could you make a 5 year plan or something if you think it really is for you? Does DP have a long term plan? You could plan it so that you both work towards goals and the financial burden can be shared.

thanks guys feel a bit guilty now he is awesome most of the time think he gets frustrated that he can't breastfeed.so perhaps takes a step back.will try to speak to him once we have had some more sleep ... think that will be Feb 23rd when dd is spending night with grandparents!!

:( zcos

N has been asleep in the pram since half 10 - that's the earliest bedtime we've ever had, and I have had two free arms for a whole hour of the evening for the first time in 11 weeks! She didn't come close to self-settling but it a good first step.

Good night all. Hope it's a good one.

I think some of our men need a or two thrown their way. Seriously, it takes two to make a baby, and two to bring it up FFS! Sorry DH is being a giant prick zcos.

I know the main cause of my financial ishoos. Having a baby so young. I never had the chance to set myself up so to speak. I've had to try and do it all while having the cost of raising a child. I know one day i'll be firmly on my feet. But its not going to be any time soon.

5 year plan is having another baby hopefully, so it would be more like a 10 year plan! But, maybe. DP seems happy enough bumbling along with his job. Any points to anything new just get met with grunts. Who knows. He has A Levels, but chose to work instead of going to uni.

DH is trying to put LO to sleep... He has been upstairs 15 mins and hasn't given up and bought LO down.
He never offers to take LO up. He is usually quick to bring him down as soon as he cries a tiny bit and never tries to settle him bk to sleep. Hmmm wonder what's up with him.
I think he has fallen asleep.

ROFL GT. Can you hear any crying?!

I don't know why, I always do the bedtime thing. Not sure why. I quite like it that way though because I know it will be done right, and he will go down. DP seems to do night feeds after 5amish, I do them before (if he wakes), apart from Friday nights when I do them all. I am doing the morning school run and leaving Oscar at home. When I get home, DP has been up doing a feed. Then we share the feeds for the rest of the day, I generally do most of them though, as I like the time with Oscar, even though he just ignores me and watches his bottle studiously/watches the TV/looks around the room/gets distracted by everything else/closes his eyes. Basically, looks at everything but me.

I've noticed he seems to prefer DS1 and DP to me at the moment. Feeling a little rejected :( You can't win when you have 2 children, as sharing time means the baby likes other people too!

Oscar has become adept at flashing his gummiest, biggest smiles to other people now. All women. Flirt.

I walked into my room and H stood up very suddenly in a "I wasn't laying down" way. Lol. He had LO sleeping on our bed. After being told I shouldn't bring him to bed as he will get used to it! But he was asleep. So can't complain. Managed transfer n the little mite is asleep which is great after his earlier scream. So is H. Fast asleep. Tempted to wake him for a random conversation, payback for last few nights.

GT. Draw a fancy mustache on him with your eyeliner.

I've never done this to anyone.

Oh no.

Prays no one can see my nose...

I'm still up, so I'm going to do some kind of dream feed. I think. I've not technically done a dream feed before.

I'm scared. I don't want to wake him. In case he doesn't settle. Or in case he just voms it all back.

Times like this when I also want to dream feed so he will sleep till later. But it's so hit n miss. He needs to b in a light sleep. Needs to want to fed/be hungry. LO will refuse to drink until he is hungry, so almost impossible to feed him earlier then his routine. He literally will either clamp shut his mouth. Or have mouth wide open refusing to suck on teat in a "lalala u can't make me" way.

I've just come up. He's snoring. Excellent.

Think I'll give it a miss! DP is doing any feed after 3 anyway. So I've only got to get through the next 1hr 20 .

I should have gone to bed at 11 but I've enjoyed having an evening to myself. Shame I've had to give up sleep for it but oh well!! They are only babies and I've got many more years of evenings to myself ahead!

Only babies once I should say!