November 2012 - By 'eck we can talk

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Well done horseyfoal on your roll.:)

That's fab VQ. I find I can feel worse after a decent sleep, after so long w/out because the adrenaline eases off I presume.

PR agreed. Is that phrase 'there's nothing new under the Sun' or something?? I'm so lucky to have my v supportive and understanding parents close. Otherwise the feelings of failure with DD's "weight gain issues" would have been immense.

FWIW I HATE those birth story competitions. I met a grp of mums after DD was born who'd all had complicated deliveries in one way or another, so when I said that I found the 12hr show to baby, 2hrs 0-10cm labour a shock & couldn't get my head around it, they all looked a bit dismissive and said things like "lucky you" You can't win with people like that.

arse I had a huge post in relation to petite and I lost it :( try n recoup later. basically had similar experiences trying to be a teacher for 11 years and the do it how you want and sod everyone else has paid off there (much easier in special ed though - last year it was 'get the gloop out' year before we made countless cola/mento rockets (I did make them squiggle write about the rockets mind!)

oh yes edited other bits were 'outer societies let mum go into 6 weeks of confinement /no other commitments for a reason (less pnd)'

and - how do you politely refuse visitors.

what the hell did mum's do in the days before extraction fans? I heart my extractor fan

I'm struggling with 'inuterine growth restriction'. makes me so sad :(

Chunky I'm sorry my post made you angry. My sentiment was basically that the babies are all so young and things will get better and what PR said.

chick all posts will be interpreted slightly differently dependent on how you are feeling at the time of reading. For example, the title of the last thread - if that had been the title of this thread, I would have exploded!!!

On the subject of thread titles - myDD1 has started saying by 'eck, its very cute but definitely gives away how much postman pat is being watched in our house at the moment !

All those posts were exactly what I needed after an awful night and worse morning. LO screamed her way round the shops only stopping to vom, then screamed in car showroom (sodding car, whole appointment was waste of time) and screamed all the way home. All this, after feeding HOURLY overnight. I did find myself wailing "why won't you stop" and then I would have had a proper good sob only I'm too tired.

This parenting lark is bloody tricky, and luckily people further up-thread have summed my sentiments up perfectly, as I'm not sure I could coherently write them myself today.

Some really good posts up thread that sum up how I'm feeling too. Sleep deprived (hourly feeds over night for nearly a week), a windy, crying baby during the day and now a toddler with yet another cold.

On top of that am trying to manage selling our house and buying another and am getting stressed out by the cost of the new one especially as I don't have ajob to go back to.

Thankfully my mum is here today to help me with the boys.

Sorry to hear that BP and rowing big hugs all round!

My new washer comes tomorrow, so boy is in fluff again. I am amazed at how much difference there is in how the nappies fit in just a couple of weeks! He sure is growing.

For the first time ever I will be paying the minimum on the credit card. Usually I pay it all off, but with the washer going and being still unsure how much I will get paid, I am going to wait and see before I pay off as much of the balance as I can. I also need to call the tax credit folk as they still have not accepted Js existence.

Sorry to hear of the hourly feeding rowing and bplp :(

We actually had a good night after the horrific one the night before. J went from 11pm til 6am. I am still bloody tired tho. DD is 3 and is on the go the whole time. She is watching too much telly for my liking but it beats whining!

I have a Pilates class today. I'm hoping it'll help tone the jelly belly. You bring baby as its run by hospital physionp. Also I've put 9lbs on. I'm on some meds to prevent illness and they have weight gain as a huge side effect. I'm so hungry all the time tho. I need healthy snacks and dinner ideas. I put on 3.5 stone last time and I feel my weight is now getting the same way :(

You only need worry about me when I stop swearing! That's when you know the scary bits about to arrive so take cover!!! Seriously. DP knows when I've stopped swearing at him I'm at the end of a very long tether. If I start swearing at people then I've lost the battle and make myself look like the one in the wrong.

The way I see it though, they are just words. It's how you say it rather than what you say. You say it with menace, or you say it with exasperation, the tone is different as are the sentiments.

Sophia you are right! He is 8 weeks! I thought that to myself this morning as I scratched my head wondering why he was doing the things he was doing. Anyway. He will be even more broked later :( injection day....

I'm still in bed. Baby asleep on me. I'll wake him soon so he doesn't think it's still night time! .

Today is my first absolute proper day alone! I've only been alone (minus DP and DS) with Oscar once. For 2 hours. DP is in work 11-7, So I've got 4 hours and a bout of injections (typical he would be in work for that wouldn't he!!) to myself! I'm enjoying the peace right now!

It's okay. I dont need to wake him... His eyes just pinged open with a big gummy smile to match! He is now munching blanket .

Well expressed PR. It is very tough indeed, being a parent, and along with the constant pressure to be doing x,y or z, and advice etc, sometimes I know I find hit hard to just chill and enjoy my babies.

This morning DH looked after DS and I took DD swimming - was so nice to have some quality time with just DD. DH even cleaned the bathroom while we were gone, but of course I had to come home and nit pick.

Horsey wow with the rolling!

VQ amazing the difference some sleep makes.

evil and bigpig yes indeedy, I am half way between the 2 of you.

Today just keeps getting better. Was checking emails zoning out to white noise on youtube when I heard a gurgle, and looked down to see rivers of vom pouring out of LO. The kind of vom where you think, "surerly that's it?" but it just keeps on coming. Soaked through 3 layers of my clothes

kirrin, find it v amusing imagining your daughter going round saying by 'eck! I still find it amazing when ds1 says something so adult sounding, with an intonation obviously copied exactly from me or DH. Little moments like that almost make the toddler tantrums/refusing to eat anything but sausages/escaping down the driveway/constant demands for Peppa worthwhile!!

Teddy went 11-7 last night . I tried to put him down about 8 too, did usual 10.30 routine, change, grobag, feed, lights off, but he was awake again within the hour. But then later sleeps for 7 hours. Amazed that he knows the difference! Is it the time, or the fact we're not in the room??

On Cradle cap, I tried the dentinox shampoo yesterday, and it has just dried out his scalp so it looks more scaly than before. Anyone else had success with it? I wonder whether it needs a few applications to work, but as it made his head look more red and irritated than before I'm a bit reluctant to use again. I've ordered aveeno lotion so will try that too but wondered if anyone else had success with dentinox. It's actually leftover from ds1, didn't work for him either, you'd think I'd learn!

Thanks VQ for your post!

WRT tax credit, I called them yesterday and they told me the household income needs to be under 28k (or 26) to get anything and told me to call back when I've been on maternity leave for 26 weeks.

dixie I have tried that stuff on 1 and 2 and it did not work. Why do I still have it??? My DD says 'good God' a lot. I was upset and annoyed as I have been known to go to church on occasions and do not like blasphemy. At a roundabout the other day, I heard myself saying it! I do it subconsciously I think. Must. Try. Harder.

No apology needed chick. Very hard to reas an author's tone and your own views colour it, as VQ said.

I have a very greedy little boy. Long old feed, he's pulling off and on, on second boob. I say 'are u finished?', so he gives me the big blues and sucks my nipple, looking up at me, as if daring me to stop him!! He then proceeds to posset a load of milk, so he is full but just doesn't want to stop with the boob. Typical man

Dixie My little one has cradle cap and we are using dentinox. We used olive oil to begin with and that caused the scales to thicken. Now using the dentinox it's loosening the thickened scales and taking his hair with it.

BP sorry to hear that x

chick it makes a difference if you have 2 or 3 kids, and if you pay childcare. Also how many hours each parent works. It is such a complicated system.

^read obviously.

Sorry bplp and rowing that sounds hellish :(

Chunky

Okay. He went back to sleep after the gummy smile. Do not want to wake. But must. Bugger!

By the way, I was being serious about the bum sex but from what you say, your DH would be a bit much

VQ it is. I thought I'd be entitled to something if I work one less day when ml ends and pay for childcare, they said to call back in April.