November 2012 - By 'eck we can talk

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Ladies, ladies , ladies, Pretty please stop talking soooooo much...I love this thread and have done for nearly 12 months...but its beyond the joke to keep up with :( DH21 Lovely to hear from you:)
(risks upsetting all my pals)

So sorry for typing that ...just ignore me and carry on :)

Also katie fizzy drinks are supposed to be quite bad. Not usually an issue for me but was a bit crap over Christmas with all the bubbly appletiser flowing.

Glenda we swaddle, LO sleeps much better. We use large muslins and can only do it when he's asleep. If he's awake he'll just fight it.

The game can go either way right now, blonder I keep shouting at the tv and waking up LO

There there now ...I fookin knew it...you all secretly agree with me...please come back {got no mates now emotion}

Hi chick

Donna I can't keep up either [bsad]

Hipocrete alert here now but Im in a really silly hypo mood today...Perhaps Im ovulating for the first time..in a year

Hi Donna

'Lo! Answering from app....

Ooooo smileys

Donna I agree too tho am one of the worst culprits!

Katie for us I had to cut out dairy entirely they are so sensitive if its CMPI you can't even have a trace. I miss cheese and choc soooo bad but I have my sanity back!

Refuse gaviscon its impossible to give 15ml each feed if BF - I point blank refused (it also causes constipation which can make reflux worse) it. Docs offer it because its cheapest. Ranitidine worked for a few days for us but then his symptoms returned, domperidone just made him have a runny bum and starve as it flushes BM through too quickly. Only omeperazole worked for us I gave each med a week then demanded the next one. They're loathe to prescribe omeperazole as the liquid costs £167 a fortnight. I just use an oral syringe and inject the liquid into the side of his mouth twice a day. He still hates it but takes it more easily now. He still spits some back little bugger!

Loving this match. I want Murray to win.

It worked! Magical

Tiger from 2 weeks LO starting choking at night (now realise why!) so even in side crib I was a nervous wreck. Put her on my chest and she sleeps like a little trooper. It's not for everyone but I love it. Either that or I tick her in next to me so she can't startle herself awake. She sleeps with her hands on my face in either position. It's cute- like she's reassuring herself. She swots my nose when she's hungry hehehe

BP we were feeding within minutes of each other! I also cried at first (and last) bottle of EBM.

tiger I think your baby is old enough for a wee bit of sleep training. They can self settle if they are given the chance to learn. DS is 13 weeks. I made the mistake of trying to put him in his cot mid growth spurt, but I had reached the end of my tether. I could co-sleep no more as he was snacking all night and my back and neck were beyond sore. He was in a bedside cot.

We went cold turkey and it was not nice the first few nights. Last night was night 6. I made the mistake of trying to get him to sleep at 7. Not a good idea mid growth spurt, but I was too tired to realise. I have now resigned myself to the fact that he is not ready for sleep until gone 10pm. I am also EBF.

Since J was born he has wanted to sleep with me - even in hospital. My girls never did, and slept through from 6 and 7 weeks. He was in hospital age 5 weeks with bronchiolitis and took a long time to get over it. There was difficulty feeding and vomiting so I was not happy to have him anywhere but with me, so co-sleeping was never my choice. I did however grow to love it. Even though I was being disturbed so often, I could feed lying down and was getting more sleep. It was however poor quality. I also have older children so was not able to catch up.

Nights 1 and 2 DH ended up doing controlled crying at 11pm with me in tears in the bedroom (he is in his own room). He woke for feeds and they lasted 1.5 hours each with settling. Night three saw an improvement, and I am very glad we persevered. He has learned to self settle, and is sleeping better I am sure as he seems a lot happier.

The growth spurt has blurred things somewhat. He now sleeps in his cot for daytime naps and in pram if we are going out. I try to watch his cues. Three yawns and bed. I change him at night feeds to ensure he brings up wind and is properly fed. He often comes back for more after falling asleep prior to nappy change. Last night the first feed was 30 mins all in, and the second 15 mins. Just a snack. I could have left him to self settle for the second waking I am sure. I am also not needing to give him a feed prior to naps. Yesterday he fed aprox 4 hourly rather than constantly. Last night at 10.30 he settled without a whimper.

DD2 is now ill. High temp. Cough. Hope he does not get it!

me too PR

Nice one vq

LO hasn't had a poo for 2 days. I am scared about impending poonami.

stunt thanks that's good advice re monitor ... not the chicken bum I knew where they came from!
I must admit I have lost the plot my phone wont let me go back to 8 - 10 anything happen then?

Yay Murray won [bsmile]

Arghh I'm a bit annoyed so need to rant here instead of at DH

The PIL visited last weekend and MIL asked what we were doing weds and today. She asked if we wanted to do something weds but I said we might have plans with my mum she said she'd see tues night whether we were free. She also said they might come over this morning with a relative who's visiting.

So Tuesday night, no word so presumed she'd changed her mind. Weds morn we're having a lie in, M wakes us up filling a nappy. Phone goes, text saying they'll be at ours in 25mins?!?! So I have to rush bout getting showered and dressed and M up and dressed and house presentable. I had made plans with my sister and my mum which I ended up having to do later than planned.
Mentioned to DH about short notice but all worked out ok so not too bothered.

Fast forward to today. M had a shit night, took from 8pm till 1am to get her to sleep so knackered. Thought about staying in bed but remembered MIL may be visiting and weds short notice thought we should get the house in order. DH finishes at 1pm and she knows we have plans this afternoon.
It's now 1 and they haven't come and there hasn't been any text or phone call to say they've changed they're mind and not coming

So I'm a bit peed off with the lack of communication and that we've sat here all morning when we could have gone out or more importantly gone back to bed.

Thanks for the venting space

Now off to get things ready for going out at 2

fatima I had a mini major meltdown the other week over a similar situation. MIL said she would be over in 20 mins, house a pigsty, me in PJs dirty nappies strewn around FOUR HOURS later she turned up

Well done vq you deserve a I hope DD2 feels better soon. Xx

We find that at the mo O is getting really grumbly between 3 and 5. Someone mentioned The Wonderweeks so I downloaded that and have started to read,it talks about this being the time that they develop a personality......... we shall see.

He settles reasonable well at 6:45 ish but often is cry sleep cry sleep cry sleep for about 20 mins, each cry sessions gradually gets quieter and shorter. Is weird because every other I put him down he just goes off.

Am missing the Burns night celebrations that I have previously been invited to by a Scottish Electricity company [bsad] although they prob aren't doing it this year.

kirrin and the others that were thinking of having the Mirena, I had mine done on Wed and it wasn't painful to have put in and the nurse has given me a chart to fill in to monitor my bleeding. I have felt for the last couple of days a bit like I have bruised fanjo but have had no bleeding, which was a big worry. I just need to be careful what I'm eating and keep a check on craziness levels.

rant away fatima and bplp

My PIL are desperate to be helpful, and notice and keep a tally of their babysitting opportunities verus my parents' babysitting opportunities. Some leeway is allowed, as my family uis 250 miles away, and PIL see the DC 2/3 times a week.

Anyhow, am doing a KIT day next week, and one next month. MIL is desperate to have baby DS for one of those days, and I thought it would be prudent to ask her to cover them rather than just ask my mum to do both. So I check the date with her, ask her if she would prefer me to bring DS down to her, but no, she wants to come up, wants to be helpful, so I arrange to go to work. Then she tells me she wont drive to ours (40 mins) but will get the bus (1 hour). Fine, makes no difference to me, but I offer to collect her or drive her home by way of thanks. No, she's very happy to get the bus. So this week I double check the arrangements for Monday, and she says she cant use her free bus pass until after 9am, so she'll arrive mid-morning. And I cant say anything, because I just look fecking ungrateful.

No one ever comes to see us as we live to far away

First lot of photos of O being done tomorrow.....excited.

I went into work on Thurs. I can't do a KIT day as I am being paid at the mo. I will probably be going in again in the near future.

horsey harping back to what you said ages up thread about wanting to be back in work, I can empathise. I love being at home and being a mum and a wife, but I miss work too. I miss my colleagues and the chat, and being able to have a cup of tea and go to the loo when I like.

I WANT IT ALL, basically.

We've made it to 9 weeks exclusively expressing. Going for 12 as next goal. I find it easier to do in small chunks. My overall goal is when he starts to wean.