November 2012 - By 'eck we can talk

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I think you'll find that not much offence gets taken in this corner of MN :) please don't worry about it.

Thanks glenda, deffo goin to order it now! Is it sad that I'm exited??

Oh that was it we have every now album ever on our hard drive we have a huge music collection - a mixture of dh's cheesy shit and my cool shit lol

Petite -can you get SMA in France? Just booking hols for Easter. Pyrenees though!

Hmmm excited even lol

clarella I vividly remember coming into 6 weeks.... I was a wreck. It's when I started making nap times by taking LO out in a sling at first to get her in the habit. I found she was less wired in the evenings then. I feel 6 weeks is a bit of a turning point and yes, growth spurt galore!

pass OH can be brilliant but he's been dreadful lately. He's not coping so withdraws into himself. I can't even speak to him I'm so hurt and angry which I hate

No you can't, sorry Horsey you'll have to bring it with you. Lovely area to go to, is it where your ILs are from?

I am so tired, a walking zombie.

For the last week DS has been following this night time pattern: settles to sleep in my arms at around 7pm ish. Sleeps on me until half 9 - 10 ish when I take him to bed and fed him. He goes straight back to sleep. Then wakes up around 1 for a feed, again straight back to sleep. Then anywhere between 4 and 5am. But the problem is he keeps waking up and crying in between! He starts stirring and snuffling, then arms start flailing, then furiously sucking on dummy,then crying. If I pick him up and rock him he goes back to sleep after a few mins, but up again in 30 - 45 mins. Last night he was waking every 10, 20 minutes. We co-sleep so the first time he snuffles I am instantly awake.

I just don't know what it is. Something must be bothering him but what? I keep him upright for 30 mins after his feed, I make sure he burps.

He's on gaviscon but I'm wondering if its worth asking for double therapy (ranitidine & domperidone). He's usually so smiley and happy in the morning but today just cried when he woke up at half 6. I feel knackered, he must do too.

I wonder if I should put him in his own cot and room? Maybe sleeping with me is disturbing him. But he never goes down for a nap, sleeps on me during the day. Has anyone got any advice? I just don't know what to do. It's so wearing. And DH is away Sat night and I'm dreading it

A better night last night then the previous,up at 4 and 7 then 8. Not sure why but I struggled getting up last night and feel completely worn out to day

horsey I no how your feeling with the weather,I was in for 6 days and then couldn't take it no more so went out, where I live you have to go through a lot of side roads to get to the main and they are still really bad but I felt so much better for going to tesco. I went for a walk and fall so I won't be doing that again until the oaths are clear

katie can you try and express while your holding LO, might help your let down?

My lazy dog has just decided to wake up lazy shit

DD is 14w today, where has the time gone?!?

Nervous how's your dog coping with the baby? He's a staffie isn't he? Tey're supposed to be the best with children.

Yep, 14 weeks today here too.

Tiger no advice but and maybe start trying to put him down for his naps so you can have a break and move towards him sleeping on his own. Co-sleeping can be great but if you are waking at his every snuffle then won't be doing you much good.

pikz put the unit under your bed? You will still hear it.

katie this is a safe place.

Well, my son, who is 1/4 today, slept fron 10.30 to 8.45 in his cot waking twice for a total of 45 minutes. Compared to this time last week, that is bloody miraculous! I still feel like shit mind

Happy Burns Day! I am not Scottish by birth, but I love haggis.

Yay VQ that's brilliant. If he keeps on like this you'll be feeling better soon.

We're going to need a new thread by the end of the day if we keep this up. I wonder how many people have got so fed up of it coming up in their active convos that they have hidden it

VQ High five for a sleeping baby!

We all had an early night last night - Oscar fed at 8 after grizzling from 7.30, then he seemed sleepy, so we just all went to bed. I lay awake for a while despite being tired . Anyway. He slept til 4, so 8 hours. Seems good to me! 3 nights in a row he has done 7-8 hours. Keep it up! I had to keep him in my arms from 6 though as he had been unsettled since DP did the feed at 4 and probably fucked up the transfer again! so he slept til I moved him getting up at 8. Fed, and back to sleep - he woke when put down though at 9.30! Ah well!

Swimming today... wish me luck . Also, blizzard on its way, so I'm gonna be one of those mentalists that clear the shops out of food! I don't want any reason to go out this weekend!

VQ how did you manage to get him to sleep in his cot? Did you have to use any sleep training?

petite if I put him down for his naps he wakes up after 10 mins instead of 45 mins to an hour on me. Maybe I just need to persevere rather than taking the easy option and letting him sleep on me.

Horsey if you phone SMA they will tell you what the equivalent to SMA is in France (ingredients and nutrients wise). I phoned Cow & Gate and they told me that in Greece, Aptimil is C&G. They are the same company in fact.

Off to baby clinic to get weighed today. M peed all over her lovely new baby grow this morning.

Hoorah to still feeling like shit but making progress VQ!

tiger what age is your LO? Meds are certainly worth trying.

horsey I can completely understand how you must be feeling. I really feel that once spring starts we will all be feeling so much better. You need a break though so make sure DH takes a turn and gives you breathing space.

katie you will find us a pretty hard to upset bunch. As you say we all have journeys and you will tend to find we furiously defend each other's right to do what works or is necessary for us. You are totally right about that feeling of being ready to give the bottle - there was chat recently on here where many of the BF were trying bottles for the first time and it is high emotion stuff. If your OH can't be there for you at the moment then know that this is a safe place to share. I hope your mum can give you some support.

Well fuck me. DP has stripped the bed and put it on to wash without me asking.

Someone has swapped him. I'm scared!

He's offered me a bacon butty, and to make the bottles . He's in work in an hour...!!

Do you think the birds would like a banana?

pass he's 14 weeks and been on gaviscon for about 6 weeks I think. I will try anything if it helps him be more settled.

Right I'm off to youtube this song you are all on about!

No were going with friends. We went there last summer, so going again at Easter. Half in the hope of skiing lol

In laws well mil and her family from Grenoble - well near there!

MORNING ALL!

Somebody swapped my baby last night. I swear to god this is not my child. She slept, in her own bed all night. Feeds at 10, 2, 5 and 8.30. Miracles do happen.

Clarella we have started giving LO a bath of an evening. She used to hate them so we only did once a week during the day. She likes them now, but they do seem to wire her too. Afterwards, even with a feed and being warm and snuggled, she cries for quite some time and will only settle being wrapped against my chest inside my dressing gown. I think we might ditch the nocturnal baths again and reserve baths for poonami incidents and see what happens.

Katie I don't know what pump you have, but I have a manual, and with the clever use of pillows to wedge LO in, you can express at the same time as they feed - saves a lot of time too unless you're like the crazy lady my gp told me about who used to bf and walk her dog at the same time

Oh yes, and gaviscon katie - works quite well, but has the unpleasant side effect of bunging them up. Hence why we packed it in after a few days and switched to ranitidine... I know what you mean about the ff too, as dh keeps saying "just go to bed, I'll give her a bottle of ff" and I keep saying no whilst sobbing because so bloody tired There are too many emotions attached to bf, I have found, so you need time to get your head around it. I cried the first time I gave her a bottle of ebm

Well done J! Happy 3 months birthday. Hope L sleeps that well tonight in preparation for his. This week has been a fucker.

I'm sure you are still tired VQ! Sometimes I actually feel worse after a relatively good night's sleep. It's like the hangover starting.

ps where are you originally from?! I read all your posts with a Scottish accent.