November 2012 - By 'eck we can talk

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Candy, no shower I'm afraid. Or I guess you could try while holding LO. Basically, the changing experience is wet, cold & uncomfortable and stressful for the mummies.

Anyone seen the clip of Dutch male TV presenters experiencing simulated labour? Maybe one to show the DPs? newsfeed.time.com/2013/01/20/male-dutch-television-hosts-suffer-through-simulated-birth/

Damn cat just woke up LO by jumping into her cot. Wouldn't have woken her if he'd just jumped in, and either settled down or quietly jumped out. No, he was so surprised that she was there and he suddenly found himself in such close proximity to the noisy small human he shrieked, tried to jumped out, chose the wrong side in his panic and jumped into the wall, landed back in the cot and then jumped out the other side with a yowl. That'll learn him.

Not that I would want him to settle down in the cot with her in it of course, but at least I could have just picked him up and lifted him out quietly. He is now under the dining table, trying to pretend his dignity is still intact. It really isn't.

Oh the joy of having more pets than children. No, I'm not going to even it out unless I kill one of the cats

A few weeks ago you might remember I was having a good whinge about the dog. I feel so guilty now for what I said about the poor bugger. I could never wish for a more gentle dog to be with the children. He's brilliant with DD1, and I have started calling him over to sit next to me with LO and he rests his head on her legs and she laughs. His head is almost bigger than her legs. Letting them get used to each other nice and slowly.

I put a couple of pictures of my dog on my profile to celebrate his existence :)

Rowing sadly I was not asleep when you posted, I was feeding again in bed.

I think LO has serious issues with trapped wind, she has always been a complete nightmare to burp. The midwives struggled to burp her when she was newborn and things have never got easier. Does anyone have any bright ideas how I can get her wind up??! Am sure it would make for a happier baby and mummy

Dh has really upped his game bless him, he's ended up cooking most nights this week, and got up wirh us last night & made me a hot drink

And does anyone have experience of using infacol? Does it help?

BPLP have you tried infacol? My DD was exactly the same and we tried that and it worked a dream

Spots for us it worked wonders DD didn't like the taste but it was great, a couple of pats and she would do huge burps and be visibly more happier/settled after

5 hours then 4 hours. And in her moses basket! We've gone from 10 min power naps to this Now do I risk sticking her in the bath knowing the gas man could turn up any second?

well despite the sudden allergy to his Moses
basket after which I resorted to co sleeping and the little devil slept which I've never done before and he's never been bothered about and I don't want to start as dh really not keen he's actually spent the morning in it happily gurgling and smiling for first time ever watching the light show from the monitor which I watched all bloody night fir the first time! allowed us to both get ready!

no I really don't want to do ff unless I have to.

chores? what are they? six week check today and as I can now drive post section I'm going it alone! bit nervous actually. housework wise it's been really frustrating as as soon as my tummy felt able to start doing more he stopped sleeping between feeds in the day and needing more attention. I want a vbac next time!

sorry a bit me me. will catch up later. hope all have a good day

miss mummy hoping G is still following in your lo's footsteps!!

DS definitely got a cold. Wouldn't sleep on his own last night, then wanted a feed at 4am, then MASSIVE vom over our duvet etc. Cue me getting pissed off at DH for sleeping through it all again & generally fed up that he barely even opens his eyes when his DS is screaming near his face. Admittedly he did then have to go into the loft for our other duvet, but he didn't really apologise, just said I should wake him & he can't help it. I don't want to have to wake him ffs and if I wasn't here, I bet he'd wake because he had to. He wakes enough to turn over & pull the duvet up over his shoulder but not enough to check I'm ok. He stayed up from 5am & went into work v early. I've just fed DS laying in our bed & wondering whether to risk leaving him asleep here while I shower v v quickly or move him & risk waking him

That sucks Eliza moving house is hard. We took a yr from putting our house on the market & moving in to the new one. Not that long I suppose, but our house was def a 'first home' type house but people were so picky!!! I guess the mortgage battles change the market - when we bought it, we got 100% mortgage, but it was prob just a tad expensive for 1st time buyers but not good enough for a 2nd home iyswim. Can't believe they pulled out at that late stage - in the townhouse style of house, surely its the first thing you notice - where the living rm & kitchen are?!!

rowing you jammy bugger. See ^ Shame you're leaving the area you like though. We had to move into a more expensive area AND a bigger house. Thank god for savings & the bank of DH's mum & step-dad.

Clarella it is a growth spurt. Tbh my DS only did 4hrs at night before 6wks and mainly 2hrs during the day, so I didn't notice it so much when it came to more frequent feeds. However, it does pass and after the 8wk madness, he is doing 2.5minimum, usually 3hrly feeds during the day & 1 long 7hr stretch at night, at 10wo, present cold making the exception.

BPLP DD used to be a sicky baby which I put down to bad wind (she may have had a tongue tie too as they're inherited I believe) and burping her never seemed to work. I'd never hear a proper belch like I get with DS. Infacol seemed to help in so much as she'd be less likely to vom after a feed. She never really 'posseted', it was always vom...

Morning all. E slept really well and is still asleep now. I however was wide awake with house woes going round in my head. Hate when that happens in the middle of the night when you can do nothing about it. Thanks for all the kind wishes. We have 3 viewings lined up over the weekend and somebody who made us an offer before Xmas is still interested so all is not lost. And like you rowing I keep thinking of the positives of my house. I absolutely love my kitchen and living areas which were newly done in dec 2011. Neighbours are fab and none of them want us to move which is lovely. And I gave birth to E in our bedroom so will be sad to leave the house where she was born. However the house we are supposed to be moving to is much bigger. It's still 4 bed which we have now but they are all big and the downstairs lay out is huge. And the garden is about 6 times the size as the one we have now. Our current one is tiny. It's only 10 mins down the rd too. But mustn't keep thinking about that house. What will be will be. Good luck with finding somewhere rowing.

Re petrol stations, we have a pay at pump one nr here. But if I don't go there I have no problems with leaving both DD's in the car.

mm glad you like the swing.

Right E's awake. Have a good day everyone.

It amazes me that some of your LO's are drinking so much milk! It makes me a bit worried that mine aren't getting enough. They are 17 weeks old on Saturday and drinking 24-28oz a day. This morning they only had 4oz after having had no milk for 8 hours previously. Will check with pediatrician next week.

DT1 is very taken with her new party trick. She is very pleased that she can "talk" and now chooses very random times to chat away to herself. Like 2am last night and 6:15 this morning, she wakes her sister up then they both start chatting! They do go back to sleep after their night time natter but I would prefer for them to chat in the day time.

Good luck to those buying and selling. I found finding somewhere when renting stressful enough, it will be a good while before we move again!

Re petrol stations. I try wherever possible to pay at pump, but if I need to go in, I gauge the length of queue. If I'm likely to be a while and M's awake I take her with me, if not I leave her locked in the car. With the alarm off! I learned my lesson with the dog just before having her with that one!!

BPLP infacol worked for us when we were using it. P used to do lovely orange scented burps! I tried her on dentinox (we thought her problems were trapped wind when actually it was a CMPI and reflux) but it made her smell horrid.

I have only been in the car two or three times with P so I haven't had to think about paying. We do have a pay@pump but I would have no problems locking her in the car. I actually think that is likely to be safer than getting her out and walking her through fuel fumes. Not that she would be exposed much anyway.

House moves are so traumatic! There is just such a lot to consider. eliza you have my sympathy.

petite your cat in the cot story really made me laugh! Thankfully my cat is old and not inclined to jumping into places but she would definitely react the same way. Your dog is adorable as well. I grew up with pets and I love to think of P also growing up sharing her home with animals. Done well, I think let ownership can be really beneficial.

garden that sounds very cute but understandably frustrating. As long as the girls look healthy and happy I wouldn't let the quantities of milk worry you says she who obsessively logs every feed

Garden DD1 never once drank as much milk as was advised on the packaging. She started on 98 centile and remained there until she was ill a few weeks ago. Babies are pretty good at judging how much they need. LO seems to be following a similar pattern drinking much less than others on here but has remained consistently on the 50th centile. I logged how much she drank when she was ill and obviously drinking less but other than that am just letting her get on with it.

Twins must be hard but your two are already forging a friendship and bond that they will always have. It's so cute !

Chatty you lot last night .

I overslept!!! DS1 woke ME (!!) at 8.22. We have to be out the house at 8.30... gaaaah!! In my rush I woke up Oscar when I opened the stupidly noisy sliding wardrobe doors. D'oh!

Oscar did 10-6 last night, that is 2 nights in a row he has gone til 6. Eeeek. Keep it up baby! He might have slept til now if I hadn't woke him, as he is only just feeding! Stupid me!

Chunky DP is the same - and guess what, when I wasn't there, he damn well woke up fucking twat. He makes the same pathetic excuses, he can't help it blah blah blah. Well, how come you manage it when I'm not there then?! Hmm?

I'm not standing for it anymore! He managed to wake yesterday and get on with feeding him without me having to wake him. I had to wake him today, because his head was under the duvet . He does the early morning feed if I do the school run you see, or if he is doing the school run, then I do the early morning feed. Just so both of us get some decent sleep.

Yesterday DP found his initiative. He just got on with things that needed doing just before I got there!!. If he keeps it up, I might give him a bj .

I'm going out for lunch with a colleague today. I'm stupidly excited! It is the first person I have seen other than family since having Oscar! I have no friends. I better go get ready!

We offer 6oz, which he averages 7 feeds a day, so he is offered 42oz. He takes around 24-28 . One feed he takes the full feed, the others, between 3-5oz. I reckon he would average at 4oz a feed tries not to cry at all the wasted feeds!

I am dressed, I have fixed my hideously greasy hair and half done my make-up. I got as far as donning some slippers (don't actually own any lace up shoes), but have now removed said slippers and retired to bed with a tin of biscuits.

I use small bttles and offer 4oz at first, then rince and add another 2oz if she seems to want more.

You know only a week and a bit ago I was getting loads of emoticons about LO sleeping, and lots of you are getting lots more sleep already in just a few days. Isn't that great?

It'll comepig

Poor bplp. It will happen when she's a teenager!.