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October 2012: onwards, upwards and rolling over?

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YompingJo · 20/01/2013 22:01

Is this part 5 already? Where did that time go?

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Beccus · 23/01/2013 21:31

wantan - that sort of thing with your ds makes my mind boggle - i would have no idea how to handle that sort of situation. I love that our babies are currently too young to 'manipulate' us. I have no idea how to discipline them/manage that sort of behaviour.

Smiley, can't believe u r back at work while getting so little sleep.

elpis, your day sounds exhausting, too.

huffle, thank god u finally have a diagnosis for all the probs u have been having. U r such a trooper to have made it this far, well done!

smorgs, nice to c u back.

livvy, hope u can get a cuddle from your dp - mine works constantly (business work/rennovating our flat), so the only time we really spend together is meals and bed. A cuddle is power quality time, i find.

strawberry marks - babybeccus has one on her forehead - not planning to do anythiung about it - understand they fade and she can style her hair so it's covered if she wants to when she is older.

routines - she gets up anywhere between 6 and 930 and then we feed, change, play and try to get her back to sleep after 90 mins throughout the day. She is just a little 'un, so i usually offer her feeds every 2 to 2 and a half hrs or so, or if she's upset and i can't figure out why...or if she is making a fuss when i am out. If we go out, she'll nap in pram/sling, if we r at home, i try to get her to self settle during the day. I feel like a mean mummy, too, squid, as she always cries when i put her down, but she gets so cranky and clingly if she does not get her naps. We try to get her down for the nite anytime from 7, but if she is hungry she will walke up and sometimes doesn't go down until 10pm. She tends to sleep 9-12 hrs. I normally feed her to sleep, but want to try and stop this - totally agree with whoever said feeding to sleep is either fine or the worse thing u can do! So confusing - i guess i wont be feeding her to sleep forever, so would like her to be able to self settle at nite....but can't be arsed with this after 9pm - we just do what works when it gets late.

Self settling - thank u to whoever provided the link to twitter and to angelico for her link. We started trying this a while ago (after reading baby whisperer) and she had such a melt down, i decided i would just try it once a week and continue to bounce her to sleep on my tummy/feed her to sleep/get her to drop off in sling. It became less traumatic over time and when she managed it, i decided to try once a day and now i basically try and get her to self settle all the time, unless we r out and i will use any tactic, eg rock in pram, feed to sleep, etc. She still always cries when i put her down, but calms down with shhing and patting and staying with, and doesn't usually need to be picked up. She stops crying after 5-10 mins and she will be asleep in 10-15. Would never leave her to cry, but did wonder if crying while i am with her was bad - asked hv who said as long as she is not crying so hard she vomits, it's ok.....she has never cried and vomitted, even after 8 week jabs which was the worst crying i have seen. Am trying not to swaddle, but will use in desperate situations, eg if she is overtired. She will nap for 30-45 mins 3-4 times in day usually. I like self settling - often when we bouced/rocked/fed her to sleep and transferred her to bed she would wake up after 10 mins or so. Self settling is a bit of a mission as u have to get through the crying, but at least she usually gets a proper nap.

Today was a crap sleep day - she got up at 815, she got tired around 945, but there was no point putting her down as we had to leave for mummy and baby yoga at 1015. Suprisingly, there was no overtired melt down at mummy and baby yoga, but no sleeping apart from 10 mins in sling. Struggled big time to get her to sleep this arvo when we got home - figured it would be too hard to self settle due to lack of sleep, so tried feeding her off to sleep and she woke after 10 mins, tried self settling, same thing and eventually got her to self settle thx to swaddling. It's so exciting some babies are rolling, but i will be sad to have to stop swaddling in emergencies when we get rolling action.

Goodness, mammoth, rambling post!!

Londonmrss · 23/01/2013 21:36

smorgs assuming he was born at 40 week's, I think it puts him on about the 9th to begin with... see here [ www.rcpch.ac.uk/child-health/research-projects/uk-who-growth-charts-early-years/uk-who-0-4-years-growth-charts-initi]

Londonmrss · 23/01/2013 21:38

why did auto correct put that apostrophe in weeks? annoying.

Smorgs · 23/01/2013 22:23

Thanks London!

lisbethsopposite · 23/01/2013 23:15

Routine Confused.
Will try harder. Aim for 3-4hr blocks.Usually skeways by lunch but will start again.
London my DH who is mostly a rebbon says babies have no personality and do nothing . Looks on babyhood as something to be gotten through. Will take baby in same spirit as doing dishes . Also works for US and is great with 2yr old. It doesn't come easy to men. I think baby has to grow on them. You will get your mojo back, hang in there.

lisbethsopposite · 23/01/2013 23:20

FB who is who? I love guessing

Katla · 23/01/2013 23:41

9 pages?! How did I get so far behind. I've used all my time catching up so no time to post (Erin asleep since 9pm but who knows when she'll be up again) Will try and post tomorrow. We back on the disturbed nights too - started just awake a 4am, but she's been adding in a 1am last two nights, and an early rise (for me) at 7am too. Sleep, precious sleep.

Zara1984 · 24/01/2013 03:18

Did I just start weaning my baby?! I was acting a peach just now and he was staring at it, drooling. When I had finished there was still lots of flesh on it - so I held it to his mouth and he started licking and sucking the flesh! And grinned afterwards. it's ok if it's a once off, right......?

Routine - up at 6, feed and play. Sleep at about 8.30. Next feed at about 9.30. Bit more play and an hours nap. Feed at 1230ish, then he goes down for about 2 hours or naps in the pram with blackput cover on if we're out. Feed at 3.30. Play and try to get in another nap/walk. Bath-bottle-bed routine starts at about 5.45, he's usually asleep by 7pm. On good nights he'll sleep through, otherwise he can wake at about 2am for a feed, but quickly goes back to sleep,afterwards.

hufflepuffle · 24/01/2013 03:33

Zara you have a perfect routine indeed. Can you come teach my baby when you come home?? Hav you any thoughts on how change in time zone will affect things?

Funny on the peach! That boyo knows the score!! I'd be careful tho, rather acidic foodstuff! Certainly HV said yesterday if are weaning at 17 weeks there are so many things to avoid.

Cautionary tale for you all while I remember. ......
Over years I have probably seen at least 5 people whose tiny baby has poked them in eye with flailing hands. V v v sore watering eye. What had happened is sharp edges on tiny nails has caught cornea and caused a sudden deep wound. As cornea has open nerve endings this is intensely painful and needs mostly lubrication treatment while it heals. Generally not serious but can lead to recurrent corneal erosion in spot. Is also hideously painful at time.

I am so afraid of happening to me or DH!! Now interestingly my memory only thinks of daddies with this problem coming in. Perhaps mummies have faster eye closing reactions! Or perhaps daddies are often nobbers......

I thought it was worth making you all wary!

Zara1984 · 24/01/2013 04:30

LOL huffle my routine isn't that perfect! Afternoon nap has failed and he's grizzling in his bouncer while I jiggle with my foot - have been trying to get him to sleep for the past hour as he's very tired. The routine mostly works though. It's 5.30pm here - as soon as DH gets in, it's his turn to do bath and bed

All bets are off as to what happens when we get back to Ireland... May god have mercy on me....

Zara1984 · 24/01/2013 04:32

ARGH about that baby eye-poke injury! That's awful! Reminds me of when I was getting eyelash extensions put in for my wedding. While I was lying there, I overhear one of the staff talking to a woman who had tripped while using and eyelash curler and pulled ALL HER EYELASHES OUT in one go! Confused

lisbethsopposite · 24/01/2013 07:53

Right. I have to admire his tenacity/Houdini skills. He can now get hands out of swaddle in about 2mins.
I've learnt to sleep with my arm across him holding his hands down !
He keeps trying to scratch dry skin on face.
Predictive text on kindle is the weirdest.

lisbethsopposite · 24/01/2013 07:56

thanks for tip huffle. Flailing arms here so I'll be extra careful- sounds awful. My glasses might be a good thing, like baby safety goggles.

crazypaving · 24/01/2013 08:06

zara my dh once accidentally slammed a door whilst I was using eyelash curlers. I didn't have many left after I jumped Sad that hurt like you would not believe!

hufflepuffle · 24/01/2013 08:28

Yes Lisbeth, specs r great protection! Tho DS has already managed to grab mine off multi times! If I had a quid got every pair of glasses I've had brought in damaged by a baby or toddler I could take a much longer maternity leave!!! So that's the other warning for the day peeps, babies can somehow damage glasses. Where do they get the strength??!

hufflepuffle · 24/01/2013 08:32

Well that was a but better. Nightmare to get to sleep. Woke for feed at 3. Several other wakes but all quietened by Ewan the sheep. Up at 7.30 for feed and dirty nappy. This really is like a repeat cycle back to about 7 weeks. Hoping that this is the throws of 4 month sleep regression and I'm not going to get a repeat performance in few weeks.

I at least feel slightly more human today. DS still seems to be grumpy.

Plan to go to rhythm and rhyme group in library today. HV brought us free books from book start yesterday! Well chuffed!!

hufflepuffle · 24/01/2013 08:43

Had a dawning flashbulb moment last night regarding weaning. I will not really be doing it. DH will. We have talked about BLW before but had a good chat last night and the thought frightens him too much. He is also very excited about preparing various tasty mushy foods! He is the cook in our home anyway. I have to give him the lead on this as he is going to be the primary parent.

DH is a major worrier and I truly don't think he would cope well with all the potential gagging and choking!

This is the start of me relinquishing mummy control! Sad

Hoping it will be ok to give DS food to try BLW style at same time? Just a little bit?

WantAnOrange · 24/01/2013 08:55

Huffle it will be fine however you choose to do it. It might be wise to explain to DH that babies gag on pureed food at first too though, it's a normal part of learning how to chew and swallow and that gagging is not the same as choking. Gagging means your baby is coping with it and learning how to shift food thats gone the wrong way, which is kind of the opposite of choking. Also chewing food develops the muscles in a babies mouth which is needed for their speech and language development, babies who are not allowed to eat proper solid foods can develop language delays. He could also do a baby aid course, I felt so much more confident after I had done mine.

crazypaving · 24/01/2013 08:59

huffle I think general advice is to offer finger foods alongside puree from quite early on anyway. don't fret pet, you're not relinquishing control, just finding your way as parents. never easy but even harder when you're the one out of the home. once weaning starts you'll be pretty pleased dh is taking the brunt of it Grin

hufflepuffle · 24/01/2013 09:00

Yeah. Baby aid might be good idea. I can see his mind whirring in a 'what have I let myself in for?????' way!! Mentions of DMIL helping out are becoming more frequent. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

DS gags really well! Furious feeder coughs, gags, hiccups and even sneezes while feeding And never loses a drop of milk in process!! I think he'd be a perfect baby for BLW due to this! Well hopefully we can combine a bit of both.

Thanks

crazypaving · 24/01/2013 09:05

and routine??? seriously! no hope here. how can we get routine when

a. some days he feeds 4 times in 24hrs, and other days more like 10?
b. I have a toddler!!

I have no idea what happens in his day. he feeds when he accepts the boob and he sleeps when he's narky and it's the only thing I haven't tried yet to pacify him. all daytime sleeps in Moby. down for the night at 7p.m.ish, up for the day anytime from 3.30am, which is seriously shit.

last night was particularly bad. both boys awake 3.30-5.30. went into ds1's room at 7 to get him up and had a very sleepy 'where's my dummy?' with a big sad tired face Sad poor little thing. but seriously last night he was singing loudly, giving himself wild rounds of applause and cheering. for TWO HOURS. meanwhile ds2 was grinning cheekily at me. by 6 when the alarm goes off and we get up for showers both boys were peacefully snoozing Angry Angry Envy Envy

thank goodness for chocolate cornflakes Grin

squidkid · 24/01/2013 09:14

Another first this morning!! STARING at hands as if they are the most fascinating thing in the world...

BoraBora · 24/01/2013 09:15

squid well there we go. Crankiness and super hunger precedes developmental link. N = 1.

BoraBora · 24/01/2013 09:15

Leap, not link.

squidkid · 24/01/2013 09:17

And rolling on demand now,easily!! So exciting!!!!