November 2012 - the best post-natal quiche on MN

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Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1655656-November-2012-sleeping-through-yet

The answer to the sleeping though question was a chorus of "no"s but there were a few resounding yesses and a lot more keeping quiet because the rest of us would be well jel.

And stunt!!

Fuck. He is back in the basket.

Night feeds take an hour in total usually.

Only difference is I left him swaddled. Can you leave them swaddled 24 hours a day?!

An now rocking basket and doing mummy's special white noise. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh over and over. Shouldn't be long now. He's nearly in dreamland....!

Glad to hear you got a break Detective. We're on the fourth feed of the night and I have to get up in 40 minutes . It only lasted five minutes as well the little sod. Could it have been a ruse to get into mummy and daddy's bed perhaps?

Oh DH...we'd all love to be soundly sleeping with our heads under the covers, but what i really need from you now is a noce cup of tea and a slice if cake . Would it be wrong to kick him and demand one?!

A noce cup of tea and a slice if cake. Yes phone, that's exactly what I wanted to write.

Can't think properly as don't feel any better but I think Alex might have slept for 4 hrs first time ever in 8 weeks. Woke at 01.45 for a feed and change and upgrade of sleeping bag after piddling on everything during the change. He woke up at 06.00 that's 4hrs. I just wish I felt better, I feel worse for some reason.

stunt you've just described my days as nights. Constant feeding, basically! N is 9 weeks now, I was hoping things might have at least calmed down a bit in the day. Though DD1 fed like this til about 4 months so I don't know why I'm expecting anything different.

Dixie DD1 has just turned 2 and I know exactly how you feel. I find it really hard to stay calm some days and it appears to be directly related to how much sleep I have had. I am trying to channel my inner earth mother but it's next to impossible some days.

I too am full of cold. DP has had it the past few days and I hope I'm not going to get it as bad as him. He even retired to bed yesterday and the day before and he never does that - I think I've only seen him get sick once before, in 15 years.

GT that sucks :( Is there no-one else who can have your nephews. It seems very unfair if you already have plans.

Oh where in edinburgh are you staying nilly? I live in North Queensferry which is just under the rail bridge (literally right beside deep sea world!). Enjoy!

Clarella and dicks our babies clearly all joined forces in those final days while they dragged their heels on the antenatal thread

Dh gets ashore in half an hour then is on leave for a week! Yay! Should be two but I'd kill him if he was around that long he's managed to pick up some lovely overtime covering another skipper .

Oh and the buggers that are his bosses have agreed to backdate his paternity as they didnt pay it at the time and have dragged their heels over it - that's our ireland trip next month and then some paid for! Sophia you're not going to be over beginning of feb? I think PIL's arent far from where your moving to (abysmal geography prob v wrong! They're Co. Down?)

I'm still recovering from the bath

Was considering aquatots classes with m but think i'll just do regular swimming. My stepdad manages all the council run pools in the area so I have an annual swim pass thingy.

Oh and m has a tiny hernia where her cord stump was. It's looking a bit yucky this morning - should I take it to be looked at or just keep it clean and use a bit of sudocrem and keep an eye on it?

Eurgh he finally went down at midnight and has fed every 2 hours since. It's like being back in week 2. I can't see I'm so tired :(

Good morning. Freezing cold here this morning. Minus 8, but the baker has already delivred the bread, the bin people have already been round and I have just received a cold call from my bank. It's not even 8 am. Whyis everyone so active?

LO had a good night.

I didn't.

Lane what do you mean re increased SIDS and sleeping?

I was going to as the same thing petite and lane? Bit worried about LO sleeping for a long time now

Not a bad night here really, LO didn't do her usual feedathon yesterday evening so she woke twice in the night once at 3 and again at 5.30, but then didn't go to sleep again properly after that and is now lying cooing at her mobile after 2 nappy changes in quick succession! I had thought I might get another hours kip but think she might have other ideas

I can't keep my eyes open. N is averaging 6-7 hours sleep a night (not all at once!) which doesn't seem like enough to me? Or is it fine to average over 24 hours at this stage?

I'm just feeding and then hopefully she'll go back down for long enough for me to have a shower. Then it's off to the docs. I'd kill for a nap later but it's not going to happen.

It was quiet last night. For me it wasn't because I was sleeping unfortunately- LO was actually up so much that I don't feel I got any sleep and couldn't even open my eyes during the feed! Managed to get on MN about 4 but was too tired to post. Boo.

Dixie, I feel your pain. Ds1 is 22 months and I think is moving in to tantrumhood. He's generally pretty good but when he's not I have no patience with him as am so tired. We've got a P&T pram with a really crappy rain cover that he can kick off very easily. The other day, when he was in a strop, every time I got it on he would kick it off. It was peeing it down with rain and both the boys and I were getting soaked and I was also late to meet a friend. This went on for a little while before I shouted at him to stop fucking kicking. .

What is this thing about sleeping long time and SIDS. As LO now sleeps on average 8 hours a night. and I can admit that as I never sleep 8 hours! I have only just stopped the morning panicked "is he breathing checks", usually because he is kicking off demanding his feed.

Wanted to start swimming Classes they r very expensive here. Well at the specialist baby swimming centre they r. 9 lessons are £200 I think. Might look into the council run ones...

Yes kirrin sucks. But it's hard to say no when they hardly ever ask for help. BIL is having day surgery so feel mean saying no.

OK I have googled. According to some sites babies who sleep more deeply are at greater risk of sids. Which makes sense. I'm not going to worry unduly though, we follow all the rules and some of these things are bad luck.

mm oh no, what a shame, we are going at the beginning of March. We are County Down yes, where are your in laws? We will not be staying at the PILs this time as SIL has moved back home while she moves house so there won't be any space, so we might have a cottage hope is booked up and we have to stay at Slieve Donard Hotel and Spa looks nice though, some cousins in law stayed there at Christmas.

Our timber frame goes up on 15th Feb

Olly has been a very good boy. We have been working on self settling and he seems to have got it. The last two nights he finished his dream feed, went off to bed and woke in the night, I think around 4ish, I left him to grumble and then he went back to sleep. On and off more maybe 30 mins grumble sleep, grumble sleep. If it had ramped up I would have fed him but it didn't.

detective I will be thinking of you today

dixie hugs, gosh I know what it is like, twice I have done newborns and toddlers (2.3 both times). The first time was awful, but I think DS went through his worst toddler bits in the summer when I was pregnant. Not to say we don't have bad days, we do. I have done the arm draggy thing and felt awful. Keep going the best you can it does pass. can you get an hour out? Hairdressers?

Hello,
Attracted by the title, I am going to blunder my way into your quiche. I do hope no one minds?
My credentials: 12 week old ds, born oct 28. EBF, better sleeper than his older sister was at this age (she is now 2.2), but no prodigy on the sleep front. Generally he is smiley and lovely and cuddly, except at roughly 4-5 am when he becomes a small hungry menace.
So can I join please? I won't know all your in-jokes, but if it helps I already hate petiteraleuse for having a 10-hour sleeper!

I've just been through some of the more neutral sites, like the NHS and there is nothing about that. Not going to stress. It really is rare

Welcome furious

Welcome Furious, always good to get new blood!

I'm shocked at the price of swimming lessons. I just took J along to the local pool with DS1 and DS2 and he was FREE.

lane have not read it and won't either. I am happy that it is ok and normal fir babies to begin sleeping longer at night at the stage. If I googled and read loads I would worry myself silly.

All these peeps going for a swim swim, historically we didn't take babies swimming till after the third set of jabs. IS this no longer the case? I love to swim with the kids I will be right on it if things have changed.

Oo welcome furious and pp

Ha ha, morning furious! PR tried to bury news of her LO's 10 hour sleep at the end of the last thread but we all saw it

In sleep related news, River slept from 8:30pm to 4:00am. Awesome. Except Saul did not. Co-sleeping meant that I had to try very hard not to disturb her while feeding him, and if anything, I find that more tiring than just sitting up and putting them both on the cushion to feed. Weird. Saul is cooing at me and smiling at me now instead of feeding. Cute little sod