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StuntNun · 15/01/2013 16:56

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/postnatal_clubs/1655656-November-2012-sleeping-through-yet

The answer to the sleeping though question was a chorus of "no"s but there were a few resounding yesses and a lot more keeping quiet because the rest of us would be well jel.

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ChunkyChicken · 21/01/2013 09:45

VQ & glenda I can't blame you for feeling that way. I struggle with my 2 & coping with it all and I admit I have a v easy baby & a relatively easy toddler . Don't feel guilty for saying things in the moment, they don't understand and won't remember, you'll still be doing all the things they need from you.

VQ there's a reason you stopped co-sleeping, so I suggest you persevere with the cot. It might get worse before it gets better unfortunately but babies love routine, it just takes a little while for them to learn the routine!!

YellowWellies · 21/01/2013 09:50

Ladies considering the mirena and nervy about hormonal contraception - I used the plain old copper coil for just that reason. It night be something to consider. I go batshit on pharmaceutical hormones Blush . AF was heavier and more painful on the copper coil but I'd happily use it again once our family is complete.

DH is going to the Witchery tonight with a Japanese government delegation - am soooo Envy at him going out and doing adult things like slap up dinners at an amazing restaurant. Am also so sick of my dairy / soy free diet - we went out for coffee and cakes with SIL yesterday and camomile tea was the only thing on the menu I could have Sad . DH bless him forgoed a cake himself in sympathy. Have also now developed migraines for the first time ever due to the diet change Sad

My cousins' kids who have cows milk protein reflux aren't sensitive to soy though my premmie niece is - so am going to try soy in a couple of weeks and see if he reacts. Life would be much improved with the odd Chinese takeaway. At the moment I just can't trust eating out and takeaways as waiting staff tell you that something is safe to eat thinking you're just on some faddy diet - not realising that it actually causes 5+ hours of agonised screams from a teeny baby. stupid bints

Lots of snow here today whoop! Smile

Clarella · 21/01/2013 09:53

fucking armegeddon night. catch up later. steps forward and back (including what looks like consolidation of poo to 2 a day) but hoorah! I've crammed him in the boba sling which both he and my stomach are finally happy with!!!!! (he is comatose though!)

I swear he hates the other slings cos he wasIn the womb too long. hates being confined. and insists on being on shoulder to watch the world. I said he was a bird.

ValiumQueen · 21/01/2013 09:56

PP DH has done that too! Grin I think he does need to be near me. That is what the MW and HV thought as nobody could settle him, but put near me and he was straight to sleep.

garden he has yet to take formula, although we have not given it a proper try. I really do not think it would make a jot of difference.

BP my thoughts exactly, but the night before was not too bad really.

MissMummy1 · 21/01/2013 09:59

Is there snow in the bay yw ??? We have none Sad but I'm about to venture out and dont want tk get stuck! You still up for baby massage tomorrow? I think it's 1.30 - 3. Envy of your dh going to the witchery!

Glenda I have a sinking feeling im going to end up with 2 swings Confused

YellowWellies · 21/01/2013 10:00

VQ persevere with the cot. I think you might be sad in the medium term if you quit BFing - also it might not solve the problem if he won't take a bottle from his Dad in the middle of the night? It really could be something he grows out of. Easy for me to say I know.

Just a thought but those BFing with mucus / snotty babies have you tried cutting down on dairy? Too much dairy makes adults snotty and can have a similar effect on babies too.

First nap of the day and he's asleep on me Blush

blonderthanred · 21/01/2013 10:01

Oh Stunt I am in the market for a new laptop too, mine is knackered. That is a very good spec for the price. I've been dithering for ages over whether to buy a new PC laptop or a reconditioned Mac - I've always wanted a Mac but can't afford a new one. Something like this but is it too much of a risk?

YellowWellies · 21/01/2013 10:02

MM am up for baby massage but he has jags in the morning so if he's gone feral after that we might cry off. Lots of snow falling here but not settling yet.

ValiumQueen · 21/01/2013 10:03

chunky that is what my brain says, and what I know is true, and what DH says. I am just not sure I have the strength to do it. I did stop co-sleeping for a reason, but at the moment it feels like I have jumped from the frying pan into the fire.

Sophiathesnowfairy · 21/01/2013 10:07

vq keep going with the cot sleeping. It won't happen over night Wink but if you stick at it will happen. It will be harder to get him to sleep in his cot when he does get closer to 6/7 or 8 months.

Big keep going hugs from us!

ValiumQueen · 21/01/2013 10:08

YW stopping BFing is not an option. I have worked too bloody hard to get this far. I would never forgive myself, but I am going to keep trying with formula as I want a bit of freedom.

ValiumQueen · 21/01/2013 10:09

True sophia

BigPigLittlePig · 21/01/2013 10:10

First nap of the day and he's asleep on me - same here Blush

VQ I can't remember what your reasons were for stopping co-sleeping, but could you do half & half? As in he starts the night in his bed then comes into yours after a feed? That seems to be what happens in our house when dh doesn't put his foot down Fwiw am knackered today after last nights shenanigans so won't be trying it again soon although dh most welcome to try for himself

ValiumQueen · 21/01/2013 10:23

BP I stopped as I felt he was snacking all the time, waking every 1-2 hours and having a wee bit of milk. He was generally settling back to sleep quickly, but some nights had problems with wind. I thought by going to his cot he would feed less frequently and sleep longer. He is feeding less frequently, but as it takes so long to settle him, I am getting less sleep, but possibly still better quality.

glendathegoodwitch · 21/01/2013 10:27

vq hmmmm yup I thought the third and final bubba would slot into our busy life perfectly!!! She has other ideas - I hope she's not going to be a madam lol!!! Dottie isn't keen on the formula feed - I tasted bm last week and wow it was really quite sweet proof her mother is a chocoholic?? compared to icky aptamil - she'll have the feed at night as long as its very warm and as long as she has boob after lol fussy little witch!!!

mm If they do both turn up I would buy the spare one from you but am contemplating going out in deep snow to spend a fortune on one cos I don't think I can wait for ebay ones!!! If they do work though I might get one for every room in the house lol

Me and dd1 are snuggled in bed trying to ignore a grunting dots in the crib her school is open but couldn't face trying to dig the car out of the weekends snow fall!!

And I've got a great big whopping mouth ulcer - just waiting for the cold sore to arrive which they always do when stressed/emotionally exhausted

CandyPop · 21/01/2013 10:28

another one with lo on me for the first nap of the day..... how do we break out of this ???!!!!

vq ff may not solvethe sleep problem although may help if your dh is willing to do a nighttime feed. i personally will stick to the cot for a little longer. Give him a chance to get use to it. In saying all this, i think you should do what will keep you sane. if co-sleeping works for you then go for it but at some point you will have to face it all again.

has anyone applied for a passport for their LO yet? what do you have to do?

GTbaby · 21/01/2013 10:33

VQ stick with it. U know it will b worth it. I am so glad H insisted LO Go in his cot from day one.

Oh no crying

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 21/01/2013 10:34

VQ hugs. Would you consider combination feeding? It works for me, but isnt for everyone. If you did, he'd have the benefit of your milk (and you have already given him a fabulous start) and some bottles which might knock him out for longer? Also DH can share the burden etc? You have said before that you wanted to give him the same as you'd given your girls - which is admirable but not necessary. Every baby is different with different needs. Give yourself permission to do what you need to do to cope, not stick to a pre-conceived notion of what you must do because it is fair, even though it is detrimental to your health.

As for co-sleeping - I never intended or wanted to do it, certainly didnt do it with DD when she was a baby. It was GF all the way. Now DS sleeps with me, and DD with DH in the spare/their room. It's not perfect, GF would be horrified, DH and I rarely cuddle or have sex or can see a time when this will happen. However, we are doing what we have to, to survive/cope.

I'm hoping you're right about the scar. May get my sister (who is a doctor, but not a GP or obstetric dr) to have a look. Yet more evidence I need to lose some weight.

BigPigLittlePig · 21/01/2013 10:36

VQ I second your waah!
LO has to be well away from boob if she's in bed with me else she'd be the same greedy devil

MadamGazelleIsMyMum · 21/01/2013 10:36

x-post re co-sleeping. I think what I was trying to say though, was do what works, (if you can find something that does), not what you think you should do. But reading again am not sure that is the problem, and I am liberally dispensing advice when I have no idea what I am saying. Blush and Thanks.

BigPigLittlePig · 21/01/2013 10:58

Does anyone else miss work? Part of me can't wait to go back, but will miss LO so much, especially as I can't go part time Sad

pikz · 21/01/2013 11:00

VQ stick at it. LO is settling now but it's taken a few nights. Also all my nerves of steel not to go see him every 5 mins!

TooManyDicksOnTheDancefloor · 21/01/2013 11:08

I think you should continue with the cot VQ, I read that it takes three days to see the benefit when you implement a change.

gardenpixies32 · 21/01/2013 11:40

VQ have you tried putting something in the cot the smells of you. DT2 is more clingy than DT1 and with her, I put her muslin down my top during feeds so it can smell of me. This works for her. Perseverance is definitely the key. Going from cot to bed will only confuse him.

Hope things improve soon.

horseylady · 21/01/2013 11:43

Big pig. I desperately want to go back to work. I thought my desire to return had calmed down but apparently not.

I miss the company, I miss the challenge of producing difficult plan, I miss training people. I hate being home and talking baby to people I meet. I can't imagine doing thus again, yet would love for him to have a sibling. I'm really starting to worry about pnd. Really really staring to worry.

I love him to pieces. I just wish I could take him to work and do my job. I can't believe I still feel this way. I didn't a couple of weeks ago so am going to blame the snow and feeling housebound.