December 2012 - the sleep and poo thread (too much of one, not enough of the other)

[PurplePidjin]

pmgkt, hope you are all ok.

I noticed F has a sort of routine, wakes around 8am, naps 11-1, naps again 5-7 and sleeps 11. I've tried to get him to go to bed earlier but that has just caused carnage!

He slept 23.15-3.45, 4.45-6.30 and 7.00-8.30. I even woke up before him for the second morning in a row, ate my breakfast before he woke up.

A warning to those as reliant on gripe water as I am... It is hit and miss when stores get it in stock, and sells out really quickly so don't let your supplies run low! I had to drive around my little town to get some! And I am 100% sure it works, F has been a whole different baby since giving the full 6 doses per day (touch wood, fingers crossed etc etc)

pmgkt hope you're both ok.

The past 2 days I've played with D for an hour or so on his baby gym from 5.30 then he's crashed out during the time he's usually devil-child in the evening!

Ethan just had a bath with ds1 and screamed when I took him out! Lol. Bless him. Now he's zonked, let's see how long that lasts!

oh no pmgkt how horrid. hope you're both ok.

after baby armageddon last night we've had golden boy who sleeps a lot! (touch wood - there's still time...!) hope that means he's not awake all night .... :/

proper smiles at me today - was beautiful :)

eggs what do you think gripe water works for? G spends a lot of time straining bad getting frustrated - would iy help that? must admit I don't give the full dose.

When I wasn't giving the full dose, he was still straining, not giving big burps and over feeding due to tummy ache and vomiting everywhere (exactly like your exorcist scene!). He was also also having massive tantrums in afternoon/evening. Since Sunday when I started giving him 5-6 doses per day (including night feeds) fx we have had only little vomits in the evening, he's sleeping longer at night and generally calmer in the day. A whole different baby!

Has anyone else gone through six weeks who can tell me whether the growth spurt comes with a sleepier baby? Little Z has been sleeping more the last couple of days.

I wish...although I might give gripe water another go...fx

Another growth spurt? I'm bit sure I can handle another one!!! F is very sleepy today, today is the first time we are in bed before 11, lovely!

thanks eggs - been wondering if gripe water should be used more! is that woodwards or boots?

• seconds yes possibly, though only 5 weeks I'm sure we're going through something. but the most growth does occur when they're sleeping so you could be right?

Seconds, I think we are
Through the 6 wk spurt, and little c now definitely sleeping more and better. Fx it continues!

We have a vague pattern but not sure it can be relied on at such an early stage. Awake and perky 8amish - 12ish, sleeping mostly till 4ish, feed, sleep 7-9ish, feed, sleep if lucky 11.30-1.30, 3-5 and 6.30-8. May well all change though and plenty of variations in there to allow for less sleep at night!

bella hope you had a lovely time with your friend?

DM offered to take O for a couple of hours after early evening feed for dh and I to get sleep. Felt like a wonderful treat but then lay there awake feeling guilty for leaving him, even though she's great with him and no one aside from dh I'd trust more. He didn't stay asleep long before wanting more feeding again.. Think I am now getting more used to the idea of no sleep and dh is suffering where he wasn't before as he feels he's not supporting me by sleeping, but until I can express there's really nothing more he can do, and I feel supported through other things like him cooking/doing nappies/taking him so i can sleep in the evening anyway. Can men get baby blues? Having kids was dh's dream, not mine (although v v happy with O now we have him!!) and i'm worried the lack of sleep's really hitting him now.

Went out for coffee with our nct lot this afternoon which was lovely and really nice to catch up/swap stories etc, (like in here ,) so hoping dh will get some support from the other dads at our next reunion with everyone. Also it seems people are more relaxed about wine while bfing - what's the thread opinion?

Also got new wills done and dusted this aft. One more box ticked!

Was that 3 (yes 3!) hours sleep I just had!!??

Glad a few of us have had decent sleeps. My DM also came round tonight and sent me to bed at half 10 gave H a bottle at 11, brought her up put her in her moses basket next to me and she woke up at half 12. I had 4 hours sleep yay and just had a lovely bf

Utopian i don't see anything wrong with having the odd glass of wine whilst bf. They say abit of everything in moderation and if it helps to relax you its worth it. I just havn't had a glass because i've never drank in the house. I've not drank since March last year so need a good night out ha

utopian from what I know of Dh and discussed with our nct ladies the blokes really can't function on as little sleep as us - also we've had several months of insomnia too and I wouldn't be surprised if something happens to the way our brain functions during that time to help. I noticed Dh literallybbecomes more forgetful and confused on less than 6 hours. our brains are structured differently (research shows) so it probably is easier. lack of sleep also affects mood too. dad's can get baby blues - and fir the reasons you suggest too though remember it's still early days. try and see if the nct bloke can meet up (or all if you together) - our group have been surprisingly good at this and the whole lot have met 3 times all together now, and we girls meet regularly.

till expressing we had a system where dh did the winding and settling from about 8 pm till 11 or 12 while I napped as much as possible even if it just meant George fell asleep in him. he just brought him to me when he needed feeding then I did the night shift. keep telling him how very helpful all the other stuff is (which it is!) . the other way I found dh could really help was to help me be ready before he went to work - eg breakfast, washed, dressed which is sometimes hard if George is still feeding etc. that made my day! esp if I had a day of cluster feeding ahead (which you can never predict!)

yeay for longer sleeps! hoping thus transfer successful so we get a good one here......

oh and the single most helpful thing dh possibly does is a constant supply of hot drinks! (which he never did before) - I find with all this bf I get easily dehydrated and feel so much more tired if I am. he says he has to drink a lot more now too to help with the tiredness.

Thanks; It'll be good for him to feel there are others in the same boat i think. And yes to drinks - I need watering like a plant at the moment!

This is so stupid - after a single night of 4 hour stretches, little C has gone 3 hours between feeds tonight and I feel cheated! I'm trying to do the whole calm, dark, non interactive nighttime routine, but that's hard when she breaks out 2am smiles!

Well after a horrendous evening of screaming/fussing/feeding ds was down at 10:30. Woke at 1:45 and again at 4. He's still asleep now. I know I'm lucky he always goes straight down but seriously what is with the grunting? He's been doing it for the past two hours, it doesn't sound like wind?

Six week check today, let's hope he's put on some weight!

Pidj and cookies looks like you're going to have a lot of snow Friday

Well yes I got a 3 hour stretch but not much since! Dd been constantly grunting and groaning, and shuffling etc so I've either thought the reflux is bothering her and she's puked/about to puke or waking to feed. Feeding now in the hope she'll go down for a couple of hours so I can sleep - DH doing school run and mil having dd2 for a bit.

Totally agree about DH and sleep. Mine is grumpy/clumsy/forgetful if he gets less than about 6/7 hours. I try to tell myself he can't help it etc and so not be cross with him when he's got bags under his eyes despite getting twice the sleep I do! I do sometimes get cross and frustrated but he is trying really hard to pull his weight.

Just put dd down on her tummy and she's as peaceful as anything! She's v like dd1 who was an ardent tummy sleeper (and had reflux) so I guess I shouldntbe surprised.

Have any of your LO's had a cold? If so what were the symptoms and how did you treat them? H has always been a little wheezy since birth but she seems alot more so in the past few hours, and her breathing is at a slightly fast (but not worringly fast) rate. To touch her she feels hot but the thermometer says 36.4 (her average). Theres no snot that i can see (tmi sorry) so i can't use the nasal spray to clear her nose.