October 2012 babies - over here nobbers!

[Smorgs]

This really will be the thread where all our babies start sleeping through the night... right?!

But on the post natal yoga front, Tara lee is great, as is francoise freedman.

Haha London - maybe we should set up a Skype conference call

Sorry to hear you were feeling lonely. It's the pits. Well done for getting out there.glad it paid offs

Oh Bora if I'd realised I could have popped in for a cuppa!

londonlivvy PLEASE teach us postnatal yoga!! Can you do it in text/photo/video format!?
bora ignore my masochistic recommendations! jillian michaels is such a bitch. Wish we could go running together, boo

I am drunk (on not very much wine at all, haha). Boyfriend wrestled me into bed for sex not actually sex but naked happy time the minute jess fell asleep. I feel lovely. He says monday is now fuckmonday. Hoorah

smile hair is still patchy and orange! i know what you mean about cot sizes - we've got an ikea cot and now tied into them forevermore for mattresses and sheets!

huffle poor you, hope that gets sorted very soon. glad to hear it's nothing more serious though!

squid sorry o hear about your nan :( was that the photo you posted on the fb group? lovely photo.

londonmrs congrats on signing the house contract!

RE running and stuff, massive props. I went swimming yesterday and ran for the bus...and felt like my vagina was going to fall out! Still, i managed 750km in 30 mins, which wasn't as shocking as i thought. DH has been rehabilitating me with toe and wrist drills - the plan is to build up to kettle bells and lifting, and learning to love barefoot running from scratch! I really want to aim for a mini triathalon - say 5k - but i've no idea how doable that is. Or something like the Tough Mudder event, or Crossfit or something.

750km... good effort

I want to kipnap your husband to write me a rehab fitness programme. Mine just plays football, BORING

Maybe he could do it remotely He's very anti t-shirt fitness as he calls it, very into functional stuff like movnat and being able to run away from cougars and mountain lions and stuff

the rehabilitation is painfully slow. lots of toe stuff and functional get ups because i had bad sciatica towards the end of my pregnancy. i get up like an old person at the moment :( he won't let me touch a kettle bell right now.

the 750km was swimming - there's an event in may and you have to be able to do 1500km in an hour. i live in hope!

squid no, I have ordered the DVD! Let's be having yoooou As Squid's DP says every Monday.

No such luck here on the sex front.ee planned to this weekend but DH was ill. Really depressed about it.

livvy you could post yoga videos on you tube would be awesome! I haven't found any suitable yoga classes yet and knowing my luck DD would either want to feed and sleep as soon as I got there! Totally need some core and abdo help though (and that's just the start!)

Might have to look up this 30 day shred.... maybe do it over slightly longer time though! Have discovered DD giggles like crazy if I hold her and do squats/lunges/bounce on swiss ball. So that's good motivation at least grin]

Sorry to hear about your horrible arvo in breast lump clinic huffle That must be a very depressing place to spend the afternoon. And just the thought of needles in boobs is [confusing]

On the mother and baby groups.... I must admit I've actually enjoyed the one I've been going to. I'm terrible at meeting new people and that sort of thing normally, but we moved to a new area when I went on mat leave and I knew noone! So has actually been rather good. We had a bit of a course on brain development, feeding, massage and a few other things, and now meet up for coffee and a chat every week. And the babies all seem to love lying on the floor gawking at each other!

yy to post natal yoga via YouTube!

Mini Yomping has suddenly started rolling into her side. This means no more swaddling at night. After 3 nights of way more wake ups than usual I am at the end of my (already short) tether and now I have to put her down with her arms out? I am dreading tonight . Going to give it a go and if she wakes herself up with her arms, will swaddle her wedged in with towels so she can't roll, and begin the weaning process tomorrow night.

Evening. So impressed by all thus exercise talk. I am officially the laziest person on here and confess I have never been in a gym. I cannot run and heaviest thing I've ever lifted is my son!! Disgusting and shocking and you will all live healthier longer lives than me. Given that I am however now an 'older mum' I need to catch self on and become fitter to play with my boy!!

For those EBF tho, is the body not still producing relaxin hormone and you need to be careful with muscles and ligaments?? Impressed by your keenness but please don't injure yourselves.

Or maybe im wrong on the relaxin.

Livvy totally impressed by your trip to cafe. I fill days with trips to shops and around park. Need to socialise. 2nd baby massage tmrw, looking forward to.

Thanks for comfort on lump episode. Such a relief. Learned more from Dr Google. It is lactation related and should settle post BF. As not yet painful hopefully won't be. Stopped googling at that!

Did you ladies ever arrange the swim?? Well jeal......

Oren sorry about the orange hair and stupid old biddies...... Should have asked them if they needed eyes tested.

So impressed on knitting and sewing!! Modern mums going retro! In my previous life before had business I was v keen crafter and made lots of pics, cards, keepsakes. But cannot knit. If I had a life that wasn't ruled by work I'd love to join you!! (rather that than the bloody exercise!

Sleep is calling!

Good sleep vibes all round.
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Evening all. Lots to catch up on - all this exercise chat making me feel v lazy. ShellWe LOL re Davina gurning! Best I'm doing is walking out with the pram - it was quite snowy yesterday (nr Edinburgh) and lovely to get out in the fresh air - Erin didn't look that impressed with new white world outside though and immediately went to sleep.

Erin drained two boobfulls tonight very enthusiastically then fell asleep on me when I was watching 'Embarassing fat bodies' (there's an incentive to get exercising anyway) - she was in a really deep sleep - all floppy and relaxed when I carried her upstairs. So different from through the day when she is so hard to get to nap unless I'm holding her. Anyway best go now, sorry no name checking but try to catch up better soon.

Night night

OMG Erin's angelcare movement alarm just beeped (no movements for 20 seconds) - nearly shit myself - but then she sighed and wriggled and it didn't fully go off. Jeez, sometimes technology just gives more worries... She really must be sleeping deep tonight.

Totally another one with night sweats here londonmrs... sleeping on top of sheets with window open (it is summer ) and still cooking although room temp is apparently 22 degrees! I think its some hormonal breastfeeding thing. And the nausea probably is too yomping (man wouldn't that be unlucky... EBF and using condoms and still get preg under 3 months since giving birth!!! talk about strong eggs!)

katla I had no idea you could get movement alarms... think that might make me uber-paranoid!

And here endeth our run of good sleeps. Ahh well, it was nice while it lasted.

baby was just crying in her sleep! what does that mean? was she having a nightmare or what?

Night sweats, ditto. Wrecks my bloody hair. Wake up curly.

Movement monitors -love idea but I'd wind self up so much! DS sleeps so deeply. Katla that sounds like proper deep sleep!

Smorgs. Keep the faith, every night different!! Now u know he can do it he may well do it again!!

Londonmrs proper crying??? Oh bless! We get whingy little cries, especially this time of day. But never that. Och. Maybe a wee bit of wind or teething pain but too asleep to annoy her? Wee pet.

We've just had 8 hours........,(embarrassed relief...) And I went to sleep 15 mins after DS so I've had same.

Now surely the pumping will work well this morning?!

Oh must say. Probably coincidence but sleeps started to improve again last Tuesday, first day of baby massage. Been doing daily. Crap night was Saturday and this was night of new cot, but I also forgot massage as were so busy all day. Extra long session yesterday as he was so chilled. Worth considering.

Do you guys still go to stuff even though you're knackard? We've had a terrible, terrible night here and are meant to be starting a baby massage course 10:30 til 12. I'm exhausted and DD won't have time for a full nap before so no doubt will scream all the way through it. Not sure my nerves can take it but I've paid for it and I wanted to go.

Urgh, she's fussing already. I think my head is going to split open. Give me strength...

we starting to have a a problem with feeding.
obviously we had that bad start with no latch and then she became very jaundiced on day 3 so we had to start feeding to a schedule. for the first couple of weeks we had to wake her every 2-3 hours to feed her because she never told us when she as hungry and was too sleepy to feed.

so we ended up just sort of sticking with this. I feel when it's been 2-3 his and I think she should be hungry. I can't feed on demand because she doesn't really give feeding cues other than during the night (when the cue is her waking up) just as she doesn't give tired cues so I have to just put her down when I think she's tired.
the feeding has become so difficult in the last couple of weeks and she who frequently just screams and rejects the boob. it's really upsetting. I think the problem is that I'm often trying to feed her when she's actually not hungry. the problem is also the fact that if she is too hungry, the reaction is the same. basically she cries at the boob if she doesn't want it, but she also cries if she does want it. the only exception to this is really during the night when she had nice sleepy feeds. the best we get in the day is a fast noisy feed where she gulps it down. sometimes she does a nice satisfied face at the end, but often she's just stressed.

there's no supply problem or anything and she's gaining weight absolutely perfectly. it's just really stressful and distressing a lot of the time. she's just as useless with the bottle. she's not windy, she doesn't have reflux and she has no other digestion problems (other than only pooing once every 3 days which can make her a bit uncomfortable).
she's not a grumpy baby- she never cries apart from feeding. it makes me sad and I don't know what I'm doing wrong. feels like she hates me.

Bora- baby massage was my absolute favourite thing with ds1. If you can possibly face it, I say try and go.you will prob learn all the tummy massages today which are (in my experience)the best ones. If your LO is sleeping, they might give you a doll so that you can at least learn the strokes. I know getting ready to go out will seem like loads of effort after such a hideous night,i really feel for you. It might make the day more bearable if you get out and see peoople. Good luck xx

Bora I say go. I started last week and found it very calming for all babies in room. Nice energy. I had awful sore back last week and could barely sit but it was great. You will prob find LO sleeps loads after to make up for shite night. Hugs.

London im finding hard to read cues and DS can go 50 mins or 4 hrs between feeds. Unfortunately he often let's me know by crying. Lately he cries at boob and im convinced is another teething symptom as he then suddenly changed mind and feeds. Sorry, I'm not actually helping you. I think it is normal for interval to increase now. I'd maybe err on side of waiting longer if she not crying?? DS sucks hands like mad anyhow but sometimes that's a cue. He also starts sort of smacking lips. But he can go from happy to hungry in 10 seconds.

I'm sure Someone else might be more constructive.
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Doh Doh Doh.

Been taking lecithin to help what I thought was blocked duct. But it is soy lecitithin. Which contains oestrogen. Which can decrease supply.

Doh Doh Doh.

Another one for the bin!

London have you tried calling the BF helpline or Le Leche League helpline? It sounds stressful.

we've just had a feed where she wasn't stressy, but every time there was any noise she got distracted. even if I made eye contact with her, she stopped feeding to smile at me. I had to force the nipple back on her. very easily distracted. still at least she didn't cry.