October 2012 babies - over here nobbers!

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This really will be the thread where all our babies start sleeping through the night... right?!

lisbeths our childminder sorted the bottle issue but obviously I wasn't there to see how! I suspect as others have said it is to do with mum not being there. They need to be hungry enough to need the milk but not so ravenous they just scream. We also had more success with latex tests (Nuk bottles take them). Once she started taking a bottle at the cm (first time she went) she then took bottles from anyone though she stopped again after a while as we didn't give her one regularly, so it takes practice at least for us. She was back with cm on Monday and we have done several bottles since with great success. Good luck!

borabora you just made me snort highly unattractively!! "...you've not lived" hahahahaha!!
londonmrss come set up camp with me, i have no idea what baby led weaning is either. First timers ahoy!
I think i may have worked out the trick for a long sleep. Usually put pip to bed at 10pm every night, and usually wakes up at 2.30 and 5.30/6.30... however it seems to be if she has s small nap in the eve, say, 7-8/8.30, give her a big long feed at 10/10.30... she seems to miss the 2.30 wake up and sleep longer! Will try again tonight and see what happens.
Going shopping with SIL tomorrow.... uh oh.

Hope you are all having a good night. x

I don't believe it. He did it again. Laid DS down awake in Moses basket after last feed. Kicked and wiggled and noisy but no crying went to sleep himself in half hour. Slept over 6. Not quite self soothing as not cross but brilliant self sleeping huffle baby!

Yomping we has same last night. And yesterday too. And twice yesterday screamed at breast. Refused to feed. Went through about 10 soaking bibs yesterday. I can only assume is teething. Let him have few goes on that mam dummy type soother and this time he took it. Didn't help when mummy with dodgy back couldn't sooth him properly.

pelvic floors!!

lisbeth i posted a link a few days ago to the bottles that we have been using.. they're called breastflow. give it a search on amazon. quite expensive but i they seem to be so much better than avent/tommee tippee. i just found the flow was too fast and she kept choking.
also, get DP to give her the first few bottles until she gets the hang of it. that way she cant smell you and shouldnt wonder why you are shoving plastic in her mouth when theres a couple of nipples about DD is now used to it, and will take a bottle from anyone, including me. hth xxx

yay huffle!! maybe its a trend

Thanks for ideas - midget we are 11.5 weeks (and we hit things really sometimes due to being very overdue) so it could be the dreaded 12 weeker although she hasn't been this is during previous growth spurts!

Huffle come to think of it she was particularly drooly yesterday so maybe bad teething pain as well, I'll crack out the dentinox gel and teethers today.

Lisbeths, kellymom has good info on non-violent feeding for those who won't take bottles, might be worth a look. And I read on another thread that TKMax sometimes have the Breastflow bottles at a good price although I also read in Amazon reviews that they can leak like a bastard.

The weird behaviour can stay if it means a 6hour sleep (hurray!) although the watermelon boob is not so welcome. And back to block feeding we go, she has been extra windy since I stopped.

Anyone with a prolapse, would I know if I had this? I really want to run, it's going to save my sanity but I really don't want to give myself problems.

Sigh. Up since about 5.30 on and off trying to express a massive boob. Just won't give in!! Stubborn git!! It's as bad as the baby refusing bottle over booby, boob wont let machine do work!

Sigh. Sigh. 321 relax.

Must move now as little huffle has his 12 week injections at 9.15. Never mind sigh. Cry.

lisbeth I'm no expert, just lucky with a greedyguts ds1 who would take milk from any receptacle haven't tried with ds2 yet. have you tried being absolutely nowhere near so baby can't smell your presence? also all classic latch techniques like brushing upper lip with bottle teat and waiting for baby to open wide and latch on? kellymom has good tips. unlucky needing op, hope all goes well.

I want to know how you know if you have prolapse too! my inner hypochondriac is emerging

gotta dash, ds2 is being ridiculously cute and I should stop ignoring him!!!

Ladies keep your inner hypochondriac in check. I think you'd know although a lot of people have mild cases after childbirth I think it is only if it doesn't right itself. I feel like a tampon is falling out. I think Bora described the same thing. If you get other symptoms too then you need it sorted.

Huffle and Yomping I think we are also beginning to teethe. I can feel his teeth easily and he is drool tastic and poohs more runny. I envy those who only have one a day, we are still on about 5 (him, not me, I am a one a day girl

Got to go boob leaking

thanks midget

Midgetm that's exactly how i described my prolapse - like a full tampon working its way out :( TMI, sorry. But for those worrying, that's what it feels like.

PELVIC FLOORS!!!

Midgetm also thanks for the awesome post from you last night about not giving two shiny shits about weight and charts and stuff - cheered me right up

I can't even contemplate running right now - I never liked it anyway but I really wish I did. Massive props to those running already. I have booked my place in an open water event in May - 1500m in Eton. It remains to be seen if I actually manage it but it's only 60 lengths of a standard pool. DH is capitalising on my rubbish body by insisting I learn to run barefoot from the beginning and learn proper technique, like. He wants to film my gait on a treadmill. Oh the humiliation. He's also becoming MovNat qualified and wants to use me as "back to strength post birth" test case. More humiliation - yay!

Can I ask about teething gel? I put some on DS yesterday as he was writhing in pain and gumming about with his hand and jamming it in his mouth frantically, drooling like mad and generally very upset. I tried to put it on his gums but it went everywhere and he basically just sucked it all down. How on earth do you get it on long enough to actually numb the gum??

orenishii teething gels are a bit hit and miss. put a tiny amount on your finger and rub your finger on the gum for as long as you can - that's the only way I managed it. not sure how long the effect lasts really. it's tricky at this age when things are supposed to be sterile but cool things to chomp on are quite effective.

Thanks crazy - he has a couple of those plastic teething rings you put in the fridge but they seem to big for his mouth still. Poor little mouth.

Yeeeehaaaa! I have finally caught up. Been trying to for do long, but I never get to the end before my time is up. Going to try a mini catch-up.

Loving the pelvic floor reminders! Sympathy to Oren and midget on the prolapse. Something you could well do without I am sure.

Huffle- thrilled to hear you are having a better spell sleep-wise and nip-wise. Hope your expressing problems get sorted soon too.

Cherry- how are you doing? Was sad to read about your down day, you are usually so positive. Days like that on your own are just killer. Big hugs to you.

Lisbeth so pleased to hear from you. I had clocked that you hadn't posted for a while and was hoping you were ok. Glad you have your au-pair for some help. I think you should postpone the christening. It would be such a shame for you not to enjoy Paul's special day having to spend the whole day with a brave face on.

Squid- i agree with the recommendations for BT monitors. Ours played the same three songs which became ds1's cue to sleep. If he stirred we could start them off again from downstairs.result! They did drive me insane but i got used to them! Well done on your running. Serious respect to you. How do you bring yourself to get out of bed in the morning? If i could i would just snooze for as long as possible!

on weaning, we didn't do babyled last time. I think i was a bit too much of A control freak. I liked to be able to try out each pureed thing and work out what he liked and didn't like and i didn't like the idea of not knowing how much he had actually had. We did give him lots of finger foods to try so that he could experience textures, but that was never the 'meal'. I know the chopping and pureeing isva faff but i actually really enjoyed it. It assuaged the guilt i felt for going back to work knowing i had slaved over it lots of teeny pots, but i realise that is quite a weird philosophy! I had a great recipe book by Annabel Carmel i think. Gave me lots of ideas. It has a meal planner at the back which i just ignored, but if you like prescriptive advice you might like it.

Any washer news londonmrs? Hope it is fixed! I wash every bloody day now, i even did on holiday last week! God knows how i will manage when i am back at work.

So- our news briefly - the poxy pair are fighting fit again which is Brill. DH is at hospital having his stitches removed after Christmas Eve accidental chopping of thumb, so hopefully January will be a healthier month for our family. Am finding things much more manageable these days and am loving what a smiler my little Will is becoming. He even smiles in his sleep! Still no job news for dh but we are keeping things in perspective. If we have to move in with my parents then we will just have to cope, as long as we are all together then it will be ok.

Right- time is up.

Much love to you all xx

To all of you that don't have much weight to loose or who've been loosing weight steadily, could you share with me what kinds of things you've been eating?

I did myfitness pal for a few weeks (basically its calorie counting). I was living on 1200cals + and extra 500 for BF. you also get more calories if you exercise. I'd normally eat those too. I've put two pounds ON this week not sure where I'm going wrong!

Hello! A quick wave and run here! Bean has had a resurgence of tummy troubles and her teeth are perilously close to the surface. We had stopped swaddling her and it was fine but she had a few bad nights there with her poor gums. So swaddled her again last night and she slept through and is much happier! as am I!

Weaning-wise HV said they are fine nutritionally on milk alone till 6 months but some babies will start wanting food sooner, to follow their cues (e.g. her son grabbed her piece of toast and started slobbering all over it!) and avoid wheat / dairy / eggs / anything allergenic before 6 months minimum. SIL lent us her Annabel Carmel book and it looks nice.

Monitors - we have the AngelCare one with the sensor mat and carry monitor. Was about 60 quid on Amazon and I'm really pleased with it.

Lots of book stuff going on which is exciting but time consuming and is hard to manage with the bean around. And I have another book to write by June

Sorry to write and run but sending you all a hug and a wave and hoping all the gnashers erupt through gums pain free! :) x

I'm much better thanks, Bella - just a bad day, but he's back to his lovely, smiley self now. Sounds like things are better for you too, you have a great positive attitude!

Oren, I don't do running either. Hate it, tbh. Was thinking about doing the C25k on the spot, in my living room though When you've finished with your DH, can you send him my way please?!

Jealous of your holiday Crazy, hope you have a great time. We might be going to a resort hotel for 1 night in a couple of weeks - not quite the same
With you on the rickety pelvis!

DS has cried through his last 2 baths Yomping, when he usually loves them. I think they're a similar age. He's been feeding a lot too, so maybe a growth spurt. But also dribbling and chewing hands loads too, so possible teething. Who knows? It'll be something different next week, I can't keep up with him!

Sympathies on the lump Lisbeth, hope all goes well. I think I'd postpone the christening if poss, give yourself time to heal as you're already at a disadvantage with lack of sleep and bf etc.

Thinking of you Livvy, any better last night? I'm with whoever said to give up the 7am waking, especially as it doesn't seem to be working.

Re. weaning - I'm planning on becoming a bit of a BLW expert before we start, as it's definitely the way I want to go but no one's heard of it here - they have a hundred different stages of mush (smooth, slightly lumpy, bit more lumpy etc) and a million different tools for making it. But there's only one way to wean as far as the Japanese are concerned, so I want to be able to defend my choices and have confidence to ignore MIL.
So all book/website recs gratefully received!

Thanks for the vit D info Elpis. Is a supplement still recommended if getting enough sunlight isn't an issue?

Another 8 hour stretch of sleep last night! I'm not doing anything different, he just seems to be putting himself into a routine gradually. Just got to start getting myself to bed earlier to benefit from it. My sleep habits are terrible, even without a baby.

Oh, and quick question - DS, not normally a puker, puked on the sofa. I've mopped it up, but do I need to soap it or anything? Is it going to smell?

Bora, I'm not really the person to ask as I've just realised I had pizza for lunch today and yesterday . Luckily, I don't have to worry about my weight really, just need to relocate my waist and scrape my back side off the floor.

Exciting book news Angelico! Remind me, what kind of books you write? Good luck with the next one!

Hello ladies, I'm a bit if a lurker but did post a bit on the pregnancy threads. Hope you don't mind me jumping in with a question?

My twins were born at 37 weeks exactly. As you can imagine, things are pretty busy but manageable so far. They've been pretty regular feeders day and night and good at going back down after a feed,either half asleep or wide awake. All good.

They are now 14 weeks (tomorrow) and I'm not sure if we've hit the dreaded 12 week growth spurt/ wonder week 3? Has anyone else experienced this?

Dts has been a nightmare for the past 2 nights. Over Xmas, they'd been feeding at around 8pm, 2am then 7 am. Great! Dtd has pretty much kept that up but dts isnt even making 3 hourly overnight and then needs me to rick him to sleep. Not great :(

He seems to have mastered some new skills over the last week so maybe thats part of it?

Those who ff, how many feeds/ozs does your lo take in 24 hours? Dts has been having 7, 7oz bottles! That sounds quite a lot to me but he wont take any more at each feed. Arrrrgh!

FFS, non-violent = non-bottle,
really = early
and hasn't been this is = hasn't been like this. Grr.

Did wonder about the non-violent feeding Yomping, thought it was something new I hadn't heard of

cherry go for it with blw! on phone yet again but the cookbook is called the baby led weaning cookbook by Gill rapley and is on amazon for about 8 quid. the website is brilliant and there's a great forum with lots of other people dealing with tricky in-laws in all sorts of different countries. hang on I'll try to link...
BLW

(blw fanatic alert )

Excellent, thanks Crazy! Site bookmarked. I'm really looking forward to it!