December 2011: They're one Jim, and highly illogical!

[LittleMissFantabulous]

I went with Gary's suggestion, as it was quite awesome and indeed factual!

:o

Onwards?

Normal service has resumed with figgyboy not seeing any new teeth but the drool-nami has ceased though we have green and now yellow poos which is interesting

Ignore your mum xiao she sounds like she could suck the joy out of anything don't blame u for not looking forward to telling her.

Ladies on August forums do u think the difference is that they're first timers and so all caught up in the excitement of their 1st baby and all that loveliness while u r a bit more realistic about the inability to sit down initially coupled with leaky boobs, baby puke and no sleep......ah the joys!!

Kat When I was pg with DS Gap was about the only shop with a maternity section in it. Anywhere else that had had maternity clothes in store when I was expecting DD had changed to online only. It's rubbish! I hope Gap still has their little section for you to peruse, I got on very well with their over the bump maternity jeans.

DD continues to do well. Going stir crazy staying in and resting, so we'll go out to school tots group tomorrow, which is not too strenuous. DS on the other hand has been a nightmare. He'd got a temperature by the time I collected him from nursery on Monday. That continued until this morning. He's been in with us each night, has been very grumpy. Been drooling for England the whole time, and now streaming snot . I'm exhausted!

xiao and by your Mum

aethel keeping digits twisted for you

Air pleased you enjoyed reading at school today, It sounds like your week has improved after the crap start on Monday

Checking in. New phone which is weird! Will catch up properly tomorrow:)

Tired coldy and after a day at work (albeit a good one), a clingy Freya seince nursery pick up I am now in the midst of exam paper marking. DH kindly made dinner again (but then he should as I am marking) but then spoilt it all by wondering out loud whether Freya's clinginess in the day is due to being left to cry at night and whether the cc was leaving her with mental scars! Considering it took me a long time to turn to controlled crying and that he was in complete agreement and I am the one who has had to institute it all and I do it so I go in and lie her down after 5 mins max of crying and I am still having to settle up to 3 times a night (though much more quickly and in her cot) is it any wonder that I got annoyed at him. Apparently he was just raising the point and it wasnt a criticism - hard not to read it as one.

Xiao - your mother didnt come to your Havard graduation! What?! I would definitely come to your bookshop/cafe if we were in your area.

*aethel - good luck with the move paperwork

Hi to everybody else. Back to work now I have that off my chest.

Sorry most of that reads like jibberish - hope it makes vague sense!

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight............ deep breath and here we go!

LMF, hope Octoboy continues to sleep well, and that your pain has eased off and you're not too spaced on the painkillers any more. Bugger about the AF and migraines though...

Congratulations Xiao! I love this thread...
Xiao "not sure about no.2, should I wait, hmmmmm"
Thread "nah, get on with it"
Xiao "I'm pregnant!"
If it's a boy you'll have to call him Fred after us!!

Good luck for the scan tomorrow seven, and you too GBT, can't wait to hear the news from both of you.

figgy, our DS had his first temperature too over the weekend, was really unwell...and don't worry, my DP wants to rush off to A&E with worries over meningitis with each sniffle whereas I'm a hard hearted bitch I loved Prometheus, saw it for the second time at the weekend, but DP has read all the graphic novels and associated bits so could really help out!

Glad to hear it went well for your DD and you faffin, and hope she gets to use that build a bear voucher soon!

Really, really hope it all sorts aethel, this Friday is the ridiculous deadline isn't it? I feel for you as this has been dragging on for so long and is not within your control and therefore sooooo frustrating.

For the entire four days we were with family, DS was ill, in the running a temperature and only lying on his parents and wailing sort of way, so not great for his poor grandparents! Work remains hysterically over the top (got home at 9.15 tonight, and it'll be similar tomorrow) and DP and I are trying to get the bloody house sorted post ceiling replacement, and it's still a total bomb site.

Glad you're back Northern, and thanks everyone for the various twisted parts. Unfortunately there is an impasse again, so exchange "cannot be done". If not, we will lose both house and our buyers. Even if the deadline is flexible, we can't buy the house without the correct paperwork. :( Have been looking online at alternative houses but don't really want any of them :(

On the plus side, a) have finished DS's little wooly trousers and they fit really well . and have lost 5lb this week due to loss of appetite. Is that good?

Thanks northern, sorry work is still crap, and hope DS is ok again now.

air glad you enjoyed reading to his class, teaching sounds like it could be a good idea :)

xiao I'm shocked she didn't even attend your graduation! I like to think though that I can learn by my own parents failings therefore enabling me to be a better parent myself which is useful to remember while I'm biting my tongue

No news here, though DD slept until 6 this morning, so we might be getting somewhere again (shh!)

X-post, sorry aethel :( shall we break out the swordfish yet?

Nah, I don't think swordfish will work. There is a solitary at the back of the deepfreeze but I'll need a hand to haul it out ahoyld that be necessary. Thanks though. Today we put our deposit in Just in Case (sigh). It's the protracted uncertainty that is the most wearing.

xiao, I don't know if you know this poem by philip Larkin ? it's a useful one when parents do irritating things.

aethel I do indeed know it - DH loves to chant the first line whenever we receive any communications from either his father or my mother. So very depressing. Also on behalf of lawyers everywhere I'm so sorry about the impasse - I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to be in extended limbo about where you will be calling home, so (((hugs))) and good job on weight loss and lovely little trousers

seven and jiggle she did finally turn up, with a very bad grace, to the actual graduation having maintained until the morning of that she saw no point in coming. She didn't bother even pretending she was going to my brother's graduation at all (also from Harvard) - she booked a trip to Iran

jiggle I really hear you on the DH "observation" being a thinly-veiled criticism. It's so frustrating because unless an alternative solution is proposed the only result is to undermine what you've mutually agreed to do. I'm glad at least work is going ok.

northern yes you're entirely right, we have based our entire family planning policy on this thread I'm thinking maybe "Haddock" would be more appropriate as I think it is the most frequently used word here... Hope DS is feeling better and your house is de-bombifying.

gah xiao :(
how annoying Aethel, hope you're not too stressed.
bummer about the nits air
no news here!

Help! Have booked first night away without monkey boy and now I'm having a bit of a wibble about it. My mum and dad are coming here to look after him and we're off to a v posh spa hotel for a lovely meal, many cocktails and, um, well, the rest obviously. But I've never left him and the thought of it is making me feel all funny. Mumming is emotionally exhausting!

Scan went well.

Xiao, sorry things aren't great with your Mother.
to aethel*, will do a major post later, DH about to leave for work.

gary glad scan went well - so many pregnancies on the thread now I can't keep track of who is due when?!

easily - it will be fine as soon as you go and you are doing other things. I did find it harder leaving DS for the first time (at about 8 months) than Freya. I even cried when I saw DS again after a lovely night away! I have booked a night away next month for DH and I as it is his birthday and we havent had anytime just the two of us since Freya was born. It is a surprise and think it will do us good (hopefully).

Well Freya obviously heard the comments about cc last night from DH and decided to be nice for me! She stirred briefly a couple of times but I didnt have to get up to her till nearly half six! She seems a lot better and happier today too - ie I am not having to carry her around all the time - she is currently happily playing with the little garage on her own - hurrah!

aethel still keeping fingers crossed for you.

Easily you will be fine i am obviously a terrible mother as i will pack DS off to PIL relatively easily saying that it has only been twice so far and leave him with my mum when i am in scotland though that is just to put to bed and i am there in the morning. I am going out Friday night with some workmates and staying over rather than travelling home alone all merried up though am leaving him with Daddy.

DH and I have been talking a lot recently and he has decided he is not averse to another child which is great however it has created a number of other questions....Although we have a 3 bed house DH office is in the 3rd room with a single bed if baby took over the room we would need to find him new workspace, there isn?t room anywhere unless we build something outside but it is a small 3rd room so we would probably need to move by time it was 5 anyway. If we move now can we even get a mortgage with us both pt, i dont want ds going to any of the local schools anyway (the closest school think tracksuit brigade for the parents and shaved ponytails on the kids, the other school is full of traveller children and they recently had a school outing to a traveller camp, the 3rd school is a COE school i would prefer he didn?t go to a faith school but it is the best of the 3 but we on very edge of catchment area and prob 1 we are least likely to get into) so it may be something we need to think about anyway. I still want to move to Scotland if we did that because we were moving anyway do we get house first or jobs, If i get a job would want to be in at least 18 months before any mat leave so i could be putting off other baby for up to 3 years. I am also particularly frustrated in my job and would like to change however i need to work PT and there are very few pt opportunities out there also they pay 12 weeks full pay mat pay so if another baby was a potential i would just stick it out here and maybe even relocate while on mat leave and then i still have a job for mortage purposes and when i look for a new job i can say i am returning to work looking for new job due to relocation rather than babies which may raise some eyebrows with less enlightened employers. So bloody conflicted!! I know we will end up talking about it for years now and not achieve anything.

Sorry for the brain dump but it just goes round and round my head.

gary - good scan news.
jiggle - good that Freya behaved nicely last night. Was DH's observation really judging you? Possibly not as he didn't propose an alternative. As easily put it "mumming" is tough - or parenting - when you make decisions like trying cc, or weaning, or potty training, or bf... it's only natural to have worries about whether it's the right thing.Still, he ought to get orf his harris and support you and do some himself!
Aethel - 5lb good, loss of appetitie circumstances - not sustainable! So reap the reward now, but look after yourself. I really hope that this title deed stuff sorts itself out. (But remember, that's how we lost house number one - they couldn't find them at all. And it all ended out better in the end, as 7-8 months later we moved into Ashworth Towers, where we were supposed to be all along. "Fate accompli" ...But then, saying that, there is a new buoyancy in the house market, and prices are set to start rising, so I'll continue to hope that the solicitors make some progress quick!)
northern - welcome back from ooooop north. Shame LO was non-compliant (/ill), and even more of a shame that work continues to be crappy.
I don't have much to update. I've almost convinced myself that I'm probably pg. I'll be v disappointed if it turns out I'm not. We're still working on it. DH isn't complaining.
My weight loss total this year now stands at 10lbs, although I shouldn't report this until the "official" weigh in day tomorrow.
Le grand fromage (CEO) is here today from Colorado. He was supposed to be spending some time with me, but it aint happened yet. I'm supposed to be going viewing a hat at 5ish not far from work (from Ebay, for the weddink), ...we all know how this day will end don't we?

Oooh I know the answer to that one Oi, you will POAS in the loo at work and then sit there with Le Grand Fromage totally happily distracted and not listening to a word he's saying and then head home totally forgetting about the hat And good work on the weight loss!

Gary great news re scan! I'm sorry about my mother too. Why so much angst and aggro, why why why...must not make same mistakes with my own kids

figgy are you looking to change workplaces but do the same job IYSWIM, or do something totally different?

jiggle yay for progress with F and really hope the evening away next month goes well for you.

easily you will have a wonderful time and wake up in the morning feeling deeply refreshed after a great night's sleep with the novel feeling of missing your DS. Then you get the fun of reuniting with him after a long leisurely breakfast over the papers.

gary yay on the scan! Were your dates far out?

easily you will be fine. I've left Eva once, it went so well I got pregnant :o. Enjoy it without feeling guilty, and look forward to an extra big squish tomorrow.

jiggle I'm due end (but more likely start) of May, gary and kat I believe are July/August and I'm guessing xiao must be October? Amend as necessary ladies!

We've got our 4D scan in a couple of hours, very excited!

Yes, October 11th according to online calendar thingies. But with DS, the online calculator predicted 28 November, the scan said 3 December and he finally arrived the night of the 14th!! So I'm not really putting much stock in the date itself.

Xiao*, October born people are fantastic...even our December babies don't hold a candle to the fabulousness that is being born in Oct.
My view on having awful parents is you're ready equipped with a whole load of experience in ways not to parent, so although it's shite hopefully you'll be a better mother for it!

Kat (I think asking about shopping in MK?) I went when I was 12wks with DS & didn't find a single maternity item anywhere.
I don't see myself as a pessimist but over on the Aug thread they're discussing cots/buggies, not only does that bore me to tears but I want to scream 'IT'S TOO EARLY!!'

for Northen, hope everything gets better for you.

Aethel, well done on the weight loss...although 5lbs in a week probably means you've lost some water & a little bit of it may pop back on when you get your appetite back.

seven for waking at 6 & for the scan today!

Figgy, brain dump away...realistically, what's the soonest you could relocate to Scotland?

Oi, small hurrah for your weight loss! 10lbs is fantastic...if you're pg are you still at a weight where you think you're better off losing some more or will you sod the diet for 9 months?

I've put on 8(!) EIGHT pounds so far (although I was 15-20 up at this point with DS) but I have a feeling it's all going to drop off again pretty soon as I'm back in my old eating habits.

Gary they're already talking about prams on the Oct 13 thread too. And being all precious about symptoms, particularly the ones for whom it's DC1.

Am I just blase because I've already got a DS now? I feel like I owe all those on here with older kids a massive apology as I fear I was that precious, like "I am the first woman to be pregnant EVAR!!1!"

aethel and queen and seven and LMF and air and everyone else with more than one DC must have been rolling their eyes at my PFP (perfect first pregnancy) antics

Oh dear, I'm sure I'm also guilty of pfp syndrome!
I am the owner of hat!

If I come back from this weekend away pregnant, I will not be very pleased! I imagine DH would be even less pleased!!