October babies. Don't get lost

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No word from Smorgs lately? Hope u ok in Frenchie land.

Yomping book sounds great. V v interesting what u say about personality types and anger. My sudden anger shocks me and really winds DH up. I excuse it cos it is fleeting and I have always done it. Reassured to kno it matches my way of being but nevertheless I need to learn to somehow adjust it. Sorry, I know you are coping with an awful lot more, don't mean to belittle what you are going through. I an grateful however that this is givi g me some insight. I wish you the best on this journey. X

I love gro bags! my lo hated swaddling from day 1- always kicked in all off in seconds. the sleeping bags allow her to sleep with her arms by her head as she likes to, but keep the rest of her cosy.

so many of you now have babies that sleep through! last night was the best night we've had- she did 4 hours, then half hour to feed and settle, then 3 hours sleep, then 2 hours sleep. my health visitor days you lot are the freaks with your good sleepers not me, but I think she was just trying to make me feel better. one thing I will say about my baby is she still self-settles brilliantly- I always pop her down to sleep when she's still asleep and 9 times out of 10, she happily wishes in her basket for a few minutes before gradually dropping off.
definitely a bit bruised today after falling.
yomping well done you on your self help. often gaining a keen awareness of the reason for reactions is key.

my baby won't stop farting! she stinks!

Ah see London you are actually the lucky one with the self settling baby!!!!!!! I would gladly sacrifice some time for that! Grizzly tired baby who weighs about a stone being rocked to sleep is no mean feat!! Great sleep news!

I know 7 hrs is not normal at this age! The difficulty is once you have had it for a while it is even more difficult to readjust to shorter sleeps, like going back to square one. However last night was good bit better again. According to Wonder weeks book - brilliant suggestion Livvy - 8 weeks is a developmental growth spurt, as opposed to physical one, which is a v stimulating and confusing time for baby. Expect lots of new skills but also baby becoming unsettled and clingy. This can last from 2 days- 2 weeks!! We are certainly seeing massive changes in his awareness and interaction so I am accepting ups and downs in sleep and temperament!!

Thankyou for the birthday messeges. x

DS now has D&V, DD still has her cold and DH has man flu. I have an exciting day ahead of me....

God so much to catch up on but bean is stirring in other room - so in brief...

-yay for Yomping and book :o
-yay for Elpis and healing abcess
-yay for Zara being a normal human being and getting annoyed at screaminess of screamy baby (who doesn't?!)

Most of all though yay for swaddling - bean madly unsettled last night, woke 3 times between 11:30 and 01:30. At which point she was changed, swaddled and fed and has now slept for NINE HOURS!!! :o Just as well as Squid's cold has jumped across the Irish sea to get me ;) and I was feeling ratty as hell at prospect if no sleep. (How was spa Squid?). Hope all birthday girls had a lovely weekend.

She's awake. Can't blame her! x

DD had her jabs today. I cried is that normal??

Meant to give to Londonmrss, sorry to hear about their fall, that must have been really, really scary. I am scared at the risk of falling every time I walk down the stairs or carry baby anywhere. Take care of yourself today.

Hey Yomping is your book based on CBT principles?

oh poor you orange sympathy and solidarity from my world of snot and diarrhoea. hope it all passes soon. what a rubbish birthday join me in my half birthday next summer?!

yomping sounds like you're doing incredibly well, and a lot of that stuff rings true with me. what's the book called?

elpis so glad it's getting better!

Londonmrs crikey that fall sounds horrible but hooray for mother's instinct! love your baby being grumpy about being woken, how very dare you mummy!!

so I have something horrible and ... thought it was a haemorrhoid, but it's now gone rock solid and is quite uncomfortable. It hurts just standing up. I so don't want to go to the doctor, not just about this but about anything! sick of spending time at the doctor.

am so sick of being permanently covered in ds2's snot poor wee mite is still so unwell and his cough is just horrible but seriously when's this going to end?!

crazy sometimes haemorrhoids can get infected or get clots in them which can make them hard and painful, prob worth going to GP though can totally understand you being fed up.
london hope all those grazes are healing up and you aren't too sore. Reassuring to hear about that mummy instinct, good for you. Very scary though. I worry so much about dropping dd (we have a brick floor in the kitchen, makes my blood run cold).
yomping big respect for you. Sounds like hard work and think you are amazing to a) know what your faults are (cos we all have them) and b) be so proactive about doing something about it.
I am still a long way from having a sleeping through baby, before she was in hospital she was going to bed about 8 then one feed till 7ish which was amazing. All gone pear shaped since then but better since we stopped trying to put her to bed early, now she feeds most of the evening, then goes to bed at 11ish and one or two feeds overnight. Can cope with that.
Can't believe I have to start work again on 4 jan. only 2 half days each week but still, I am so not ready.

Rubbish smily how old's your DC?

I am now living is fear about the next poo LO does. It's been 4 days. She was pretty explosive when she pooed 8 times a day, but now I'm terrified. Is there such a thing as a full-body nappy?

London, mine only goes once a week it's pretty biblical.

Humn re sleeping bag. A friend dropped off one this morning for us to borrow as her son has grown out of it so I tried it at the lunchtime sleep and she woke up several times, had a wail, them back to sleep, and then woke up properly crying. i slid my hand in on her back and she was cold,poor thing, despite following the advice re how many layers she should be wearing. I put a blanket on her and she went back to sleep no prob. Maybe she's just a skinny wee thing? Am wary of overheating (SIDS etc) but equally don't want her o be cold.

Bora, OMG at thought of poo once a week. That must be truly impressive.

Smiley, boo re having to go back to work so soon. Is it near home at least?

Crazy, sending good health vibes to your family. Xx

What's hilarious is that she waits until DH's is around before doing it in 7 weeks I've never been the one on duty when it happens! The expression on her face is priceless. That's my girl .

What area of London are you in Livvy?

smiley, going back to work is so tough when u r getting so little sleep. u must be gutted about losing the long sleeps, as huffle was saying, it's so hard to start sleep deprivation again after getting used to something more manageable. london, glad u r both ok after your fall. i stayed in our loft bedroom for days with my bean when we came home from hospital as i was too scared to go down the stairs with her. yomping,respect for your insight into yourself and being so proactive. crazy, that sounds v. uncomfortable - last thing u need with your sick bubba. good work, borabora,it always makes me giggle when dp gets a poohy nappy. for those wanting to encourage poohs, when we have story time, i rest my legs on a stool and have my knees bent and put baby beccus in a sitting position facing me. there is almost always a pooh at story time

Trying to picture posture Beccus I'm a bit dopey.... So does baby have knees up then? Must try. We've went from 8-9 a day to 2 every 2 days. By sounds if things not bad but he gets awfully stressed.

Smiley my heart goes out to you at thought of work. I thought I was earliest back in Feb. But I hav now moved to March. We prob won't be able to afford to bloody eat!! But we still hav to move house and tricky start seemed to steal so much time. Glad it is only 2.5 days for you. Fair play to you.

Not heard from lovely Bella for while either. Hope all ok

I have one very content very well settled little boy today. Wouldn't it be great to be like this all the time??!

borabora snap - we have a gap of 3-4 days now and then poo-maggeden, but she waits for daddy's turn, good girl!

london hope you're recovering from your fall ok, I remember my mum telling my she slipped and went down a whole flight of stairs on her bum holding my toddler brother up in the air. Landed at the bottom and he went "again! again!"

yomping your book sounds ace, glad it's helping.

Big fans of sleeping bags in this house, I think going into a cold bed is less noticeable if she's in one but that may just be another crazy theory of mine. HV coming to weigh bean tomorrow so we can decide if we need to take her to the paeds follow up appt or not. DH convinced she looks chubbier but I am not so sure. Really hope so, just getting to the point where I just want to be left alone with my baby.

We are having all me and dh's family to us for Xmas (on condition dh cooks) but have to do a trip to croyden at the weekend for FIL's 60th birthday. This is a 6 hour car journey for us so somewhat apprehensive... was also trying to find some rules about carseats and resting between goes but no real consensus is there? Will prob have to stop at least every 2hrs for feeds anyway so will just see how we go and pray for no major traffic jams on the m6 (the weekend before Xmas, fat chance methinks... )

For those who are interested, my book is from here: nhs books, it is the "Controlling Anger" one. Has exercises to work through. Bora, no CBT, but lots about breaking the anger down into the cause (eg baby won't stop crying), the physical symptoms (eg racing pulse), the mental thought process (why won't you stop crying, why can't I make it better?) and the resulting angry reaction (mine is that I want to throw things, to get the aggression out) - and the idea that you can change some of these, eg think more balanced thoughts, recognise and address the physical symptoms etc, and this means that you don't get as far as the angry reaction. I was skeptical but it's good and is making a difference.

Thank you all for being interested and encouraging - with my usual black and white, negative outlook I just think that it is awful that I get angry so easily and crap that I need to get help for it and people will think I'm a terrible person - whereas what is actually happening when I tell people about it is a) quite often they have felt the same sometimes and b) they think it is really positive that I am trying to get it sorted. It's nice that people think that, and makes me feel proud.

Poo - we went very suddenly from several a day, with accompanying clues (grunting, throat-clearing, red face and a very funny little cackle), to one or two HUGE ones every 2 or 3 days. DH gets most of them but I got one yesterday and I just didn't know what to do or where to start! The swingy chair seems to trigger it for mini Yomping - must be the downward swing! The weird thing is she still does the cackling etc so I keep thinking she is pooing but she isn't - maybe these are just clues that she is farting now. And by god, the farts stink!

She has a new trick of bobbing her head back and forth at the breast when I'm trying to latch her on - kind of like horizontal headbanging. Really lovely when she keeps bashing against a tender nipple . I also have to swaddle her upper arm otherwise she claws at me in a kind of frenzy. Neither of these things are very helpful! I think it's all caused by wind, which she seems to have endless amounts of, as it makes her wiggly and squirmy and she goes nice and still after a good burp.

Major news of the day - after weeks of only sleeping in the sling, and not in the swingy chair, bouncy chair or carrycot downstairs, I had a brainwave and decided to try the night-time routine with her in the day, so this afternoon I took her up to the bedroom for a feed, with closed curtains and dim light, then swaddled her and put the white noise on and rocked her gently to sleep, then put her down in the cot... where she awoke instantly and wriggled and then gave me a massive heart-melting smile. Little tinker! On a bit of a whim, I closed my eyes, to show her what I wanted her to do (although I watched her through the slits) and after a few minutes she fell asleep . This was at 4 o'clock. It's now 5:50!!! This is the longest daytime sleep she has had while not in the sling for over 6 weeks. I'm not in the room, although I am upstairs in case she wakes up - want her to associate daytime sleep with comfort and not with waking up alone and having to cry out for someone to come and get her.

Bora, we have jabs tomorrow. I am dreading it and fully expect to cry. Have heard that feeding DD while she has jabs can lessen the sensation of pain for her - has anyone else heard this/tried this? Have also heard I can get baby paracetomol/Calpol to give afterwards if she seems in pain.

Wooly, my parents live in Croydon, we'll be there for Christmas! Fingers crossed for good weigh in for you tomorrow.

Crazy, sympathy to you. I am waiting for my 6-8 week check up to fess up to my doc about my haemorrhoids , which haven't cleared up despite anusol cream and then extra strength anusol cream with steroids. My 6-8 week check up was tomorrow (8 and a half weeks after the birth) and has now been rearranged to New Years Eve (10 and a half weeks after the birth ). When I said I wasn't pleased about this, the response was "well, lots of people have had babies recently".

p.s. I christened the last poo Apoo-calypse Now!

I've just had a look and it is CBT I can recommend Overcoming Anger and Irritability if you find after you'd like a bit more!

Small note - it's not personality that leads to black and white thinking etc! Every body has the potential to think in unhelpful ways! I just wanted to throw that out there so you know not to think feelings of anger and irritability are inherent to you because of personality traits

Ooh, I'm in Croydon borough!

I decided not to feed her as I didn't want her to associate feeding and me with pain! It was awful! I've never heard that cry before and I don't want to hear it again!

Please tell me my imagination running away with it........ Past few days DS is dribbling and blowing bubbles like mad. He has never been a milk dribbler. This is just all saliva. Is this normal?? He's not feckin teething is he???

I've been thinking this exact thing huffle! DD is drooling like mad too! I googled it and it could be teething. Apparently teeth move up and down before finally coming out. Could also be the salivary glands maturing.