November '05 - babies getting bigger, mummies getting smaller!

[novadandypowder]

A nice new thread for us all - I know someone mentioned it a few days ago

Thanks for the advice, and GO you weren't speaking out of turn. I know i shouldn't stop them seeing their father, i said right at the beggining that i didn't want to use them like this but i knew i would.

I think its just me going through the cycle of emotions and trying to get a hold of what is happening. I feel fine now, looking forward to a new life, me and my lovely, beautiful girls, but then in an hours time i'll be crying again. It will all work out and he will get to see them, but for the moment i think i just need them close to me while i figure this lot out. I know it's selfish and if that makes me a bad person or a bad mother then so be it, i just don't want him near me or the girls right now.

I am trying so hard to be "grown up" about all this but its just so hard. I'm being petty about little things, as is he. Gonna take some time but i'll get through it.

Thanks for your support and any advice is gratefully received.

Sarahxx

hi all,
diege yep suggest some dates I cant wait!!!
Karma i live in hadfield in the high peak but go home to hartlepool often so maybe next time im up there i could try and meet up with you on a fri????
Rodeo vey good detective work:):) glad to see cp3 and the others are all doing well:) they deserve it!!!!!
Josh is very grouchy after his injections yestaerday:( one of his little thighs is really swollen and hot:( poor thing.
well must go as the kids are killing each other:)
twinkle & josh

What a beautiful day, just been out to the park with Tessa and a friend. I love Spring and Summer

I was going to try and catch up properly today though I don't think I can. I'll just apologise in advance if I miss anyone out.

Sarah - glad to hear you sounding so much brighter than your last post. I know exactly how you feel about the betrayal as I've been there too - together 6 years but it was going wrong and then I found out he had been cheating. I was absolutely devastated - all the stuff you said - stupid, worthless, unloved, angry, sick and emotionally all over the place. Its like a bereavement in some ways and just hurts SO much to start with. Then anger took over for a while which was better (changing the locks on our flat and hearing him hammer on the door was a great boost too though not necessarily recommended ) and finally, a long, long time later, some sort of resolution for me. And here I am, many years on, a lot older and wiser and just so glad that I didn't end up with him.
The fact that you know your emotions will change from hour to hour is a good thing I think, go with it, your body (and head) knows what its doing. But also try and keep yourself well, someone said about making sure you eat and that really struck a chord with me, I lost over a stone in 3 weeks. I thought I ate under stress but when it got really tough I didn't eat at all. The mantra was great too and you know we are all here for you. As others have said, you will get through it, its just awful at the moment.

Love to you and your lovely girls

Londoner/Candi - I'm not alone on the night feeds then? He had us fooled for a while as he slept through for nearly a month from 8 weeks but since then I think we have had 2 unbroken nights. Add Tessa waking up with bad dreams/needing a wee/a drink/ a cuddle and I'm on my knees by tea-time!

Right, complete failure to catch up and now its tea-time (and I am on my knees!)
Talk soon

JenJam - Mmmmmm, cake! We have 3/4 of a chocolate and banana one in the kitchen but possibly not for much longer

Afternoon all,

SS - I'm truly sorry to hear what you're going through and hope that everything works out. As GO said (she & Londoner always word things as I'd like to) give yourself a pat on the back first for being a good mum.

Rodeo & Diege - What are you two like!?
Oh and well done on the detective work, nice to know how the others are doing.

Brownie - Will you be working full time? Forgot to mention that I'm in Oxford, do you drive?

Glad that I posted on the racist comment, feel better now. Didn't bother me before but with baby now I feel a bit intimidated as my basic instinct is to protect the LO. When I was all hair and make up people would have found it difficult to guess where I was from and have only come up with a European origin if any, now that my dress code reflects my beliefs it's an open arena for comment. Best yet is when I'm out with my mum or MIL/FIL/DH, people just stare, it's soooo rude. Anyhow, thanks for letting me talk about it, I don't usually.

I can probably make the meet up but a bit nervous. DH hasn't said no to public transport. Must be something in the water.

Really looking fwd to the summer now :o Weather is fab, puts me in high spirits.

In-laws up tomorrow so best get a move on.

p.s. my friend had a boy a few hours ago! :o Broody, broody, broody! x

LOL, i should point out that my dress code is nothing extreme, just a simple headscarf or headwrap - I posted a pic on the yahoo group with and without for those reasons. No big deal.
Don't be afraid! :O

Hi, right, you're prob going to laugh at me but how do you reheat/defrost the frozen ice cubes of puree once you've so efficiently...or not...frozen the bloomin things? I don't have a microwave... is it okay to do it in a bowl over hot water technique...one v. hungry baby here and I'm all milked out.... gulp..

Just a quickie as I'm hungry and no-one else here to make me dinner.

Londoner - would it sicken you to say I'm uber-efficient and get the purees out of the freezer to defrost the night before? Think it's alright to put the container in hot water, or do it a la melting chocolate?

Well, went to visit my family today, had to get some pics in of my grandad before he gets too poorly. Saw my mum too and it was quite shocking. She's tranq'ed up to her eyeballs and has ballooned in weight due to her medication, I've never ever seen her so big (she's anorexic for those that don't know). My dad and his partner got Nat a stuffed toy horse thats as big as an alsation. Good job we've got somewhere to put it - it's huge! Good to see my sister though, she fed Nat and really seems to dote on her .

DH back tomorrow - HOORAH!!!!!!

Just want to acknowledge..

Chacha - I get so shocked that in this day people still hold such racist beliefs. I always get very embarrassed at the behaviour of some English people. When I stayed in Greece breifly I was told not to be proud to be English by a waiter who had probably suffered at the hands of dodgy holiday makers.

SS - Glad you feel able to come on here and talk to us, and I hope we're able to offer you some support. I know how hard it's been not having my DH around for 3 weeks so multiply that by a million and I might get someway to knowing how you must be feeling. Please let us help you in anyway we can x

Hi, I'm trying to catch up with you all, one night away, and you've got a whole nights reading to do!

Candi - hi, nice to 'meet' you. Congratulations on getting married, you make it sound so calm and stressfree sorting everything in just a few days, I'm envisaging months and months of planning and panic when my time eventually comes.

Diege - what is it with grandparents not changing nappies? I remember always getting Owen back from my mum several lb heavier than when I'd dropped him off.

ChaCha - What a horrible old man. Its awful that people seem to think that they have the right to make insulting and upsetting remarks to others

Brownie - congrats on getting all the eggs there without having to replace any. it would never have happened in this house, I've already eaten 2 easter eggs this week.

JenJam - can I please come and live with you, those cakes sound delicious.

Sarah - obviously i'm new here and don't know the whole deal, but it sounds horrible for you. It seems though that there are lots of prople here that you can count on to have a rant at, so just keep strong for yourself and your 2 little girls.

All those of you doing the puree thing, I have so much admiration for you all. I have had every intention of doing that with Sean, but unfortunately packets and jars are winning and i'm really not happy with myself .

Todays been very eventful, full of real highs to real lows. dp went to hospital, and he has his frame off in 3 wks, wahey!!!! There finally seems to be an end coming towards this. We've also been to our friends funeral who died of a brain tumour last week at only 37, it makes you realise how fragile life is, I think thats been said by so many people this last week. Yesterday dp's nephews baby was born, so he's now a great uncle. We're not married yet, so i'm getting out of the 'great' bit that way, but seen him today he's gorgeous and sooooo tiny (he's the exact same size as Sean was, but you forget so quickly how tiny a newborn is) and I think I want more...

GG x

Evening girls

Right it's quiet here at last, it's been one of those days today.

Chacha - rise above dozy old gits like that - they are just not worth the air they breathe.
Just to make you laugh though the fact that he was on a bike reminds me of a time I was driving home from work and was stuck halfway across a diificult junction and this dozy muppet on a bike actually cycled into my car on purpose and then had the front to bang his fists on my roof, shouting at me all the while - at first I was terrified and then I thought wtf and opened the window and gave him the biggest mouthful of foul abuse you have ever heard and bearing in mind I have worked with docker, coppers and printers my foul vocabulary is enormous and my sharp tong ue is legendary. I did think afterwards that I was a bit slow on the up take though as I should have opened my door and made the prat fall off his bike

Yeh - glad to hear you might be coming to the meet up - go on you know you want to really

SS sorry to hear how rough things are for you, all I can add is if you let your girls see their dad they will eventually figure out for themselves that he is a waste of space and make their own decision on whether to see him or not, that way when they decide not to see him any more only he will be to blame and neither they or he can blame you for keeping them apart. Remember kids are very intuiative and they will quickly suss him out and decide that spending the weekend with dad isn't that much fun unless he makes a real concerted effort with them, just spoiling them with presents etc won't buy their love for him.

Karma really great to chat with you last night I haven't sat and chatted on the phone for nearly an hour undisturbed in ages. Did Ella settle down again?

Does anyone want to take up a take one get one free offer 'cos I'm giving my boys away as I have had less than a week where they have both been well and now they both have hacking coughs again and Thomas has conjunctivitus, I though he had it a week or so ago but he had just scratched himself, now he has it full blown - bet Ben wakes up with it in the morning too arrrggghhhh

Jenjam send some cake this way, all that food sounds yummy.

Nova hope you have a lovely reunion with dh tomorrow, bet you can't wait and I bet he won't believe the change in Natalie in three short weeks - not that they've felt short to you I'm sure.

GG great news about your dp's frame, you must be thrilled. Sorry you've had such a sad day though.

Right hello to everyone else, better stop rattling on now and go and watch the Apprentice, although not as good now Jo has gone. Speak to you all tomorrow. Beks

Evening!

Just hade chinese - mid-week - how naughty. It was lovely though, duck in plum sauce and garlic chicken - remind me not to breath on anyone tomorrow, I'll knock them out!

Beks, Hi!! We never post at the same time! Not more poorly boys?! Poor you. Did you see my detective work? I'm v. excited for them :)

GG, how awful about your friend, I am sorry :( But dp is a great uncle, wow! What did they call him? (I'm obsessed with baby names!)

My sisters best friend had her baby girl today at 34 weeks, she took her a pile of Jess's baby clothes only last night and there were no signs of impending labour! But she was born less than 12 hours later at 6.30 this morning at 6lb12oz :) No name as yet

Nova, nice to hear dh is back tomorrow, give him a welcome back kiss from all of us :)

Tessasmum, you are so eloquent, your post to sarah was lovely :)

Ooh Chacha, your friend had a boy! Lovely :) Any names?? Would be absolutely brilliant if you could come to meet-up!!

Speaking of our meet-up I'm really getting excited about meeting you all - I cannot wait!! We can't have any babies or mummies getting ill, so do not go near anyone who's ill! That's an order!

Oooh also....

found out my friend in Madrid has been told she's having a girl! She has got 2 boys already and was fully prepared (and looking forward) to have baby boy no.3 but no they've told her it is very probably a girl

Where is BoB today?

Thanks for acknowledgements.

Just went to visit friend at hospital, labour was 1 hour 45mins. Can't believe that my LO was that small and only months ago too.

Nova - Glad that your family visit went well. Is that Nat's only aunty? Asking as DS only has one 'real' uncle.

Rodeo - Yum Yum! Baby's name is our version of 'Joseph'. If I had another boy I would love to call him Zack or Danial.

On the racism note, it's not just the English is it? I've experienced it on both sides. Sad.

Nighty night all and thank you.

Evening everyone . Just off to bed so just time for a quick hello. Nothing very exciting to report - highlight of day was actually The Apprentice - totally sad I know! Can't wait till Sa'id is out; what an arrogant so and so!!! .
NOVA: have a great reunion! Make sure you get treated . Have to say when DH goes away for any length of time, I actually feel quite irritated with him when he comes back and spoils my 'routine' and order ; but then that's just me, Gina through and through .
RODEO: wow, what I good weight your sister's friend's baby was for 34 weeks! Have also been thinking about illness and meet; will bring it on if I'm not careful . Tell you what though, after paying for train tickets/hotel, I'm bloomin well turning up in an ambulance if I'm ill!!! - not that I begrudge the expense, you're all totally worth it
CHACHA, love your boy names; Zack and Zayn , ahhhh!! What would you call a girl?
BEKS, can totally sympathise on the conjunctivitus front; it's our biggest stay off school/nursery thing, and seems almost constant some times (this isn't helping is it ); my GP never prescribes anything for it either, though if it's the viral one you just have to sit it out anyway .
TWINKLE: will get calender tommorrow and suggest a few dates; looking forward to it .
TESSA: poor you with night-wakings; know what it's like with toddler, more probs than babies I think with their wakings at night ; having a good spell at present, but have been through toilet/drink/bad dream/crumpled bed/teddy the wrong way up scenario, and it's so hard to keep your cool at 3 in the morning!!!
Right, off to give her majesty her 2 ounces of milk...count down to dropping this last feed (10.30), only got to last till Sat, then will stop it altogether!!! (It's a Gina thing , BEAR will know what I'm on about!).
Right, can't be a minute late for it
Diege

Nat will have an aunt from my side of the family and an uncle from DH's side (although DH does have two step-brothers but we never see them so don't really count). My sister still insists she doesn't want kids (and I believe her) so I have to make do with being an aunt of sorts to DH's brothers two boys (He's divorced, his ex-wife doesn't let him see the kids very often, so we don't see them that much, but they are really great kids).

Looking forward (not!) to the day I have to explain to Nat who my dads partner is and then making sure she doesn't repeat it in front of my mum. I think we'll just stay in London!!

Diege I'm really looking forward to DH's return. TBH I've found it quite difficult to cope this week without him, and have been feeling quite low.

A quick good morning to you all

Naughty mummy had Sean in bed almost all night. I must have been really tired because I'm usually pretty good at staying awake 'til he's finished feeding.

Great nephews name is Caden Corinthian. Apparently Corinthian is the baby in 2 pints of lager... but I don't watch it. Both mum & dad are only 16 so we were fully expecting some strange names, but I think they've done well.

We're taking Owen's stabilisers off later, so i'm sure i'll have a bruised and battered little boy later.

Have a good day everyone

Morning . All of us have got colds again , so an early 5am start; feel like I've been up for hours .
NOVA: Have a great day today ; didn't realise that you had been feeling low with DH away, you always sound so chirpy in your posts ; didn't mean to be insensitive by whinging about how my DH is when he returns (or rather, how I am .
GG: good luck with bike today ; have the camera ready! Wow, Caden Corinthian... quite cute actually .
Well, have decided to start weaning after meet-up; 5 months tommorrow, so will be almost 6 months by time i get going with it.
Trying to master reverse round corner again today ...there must be a technique!
Speak later,
Diege

Tessa and Londoner -- yes it is pretty exhausting. I did try last week to just give water but she truly is so hungry (well, when I give her milk she has most of it). She seems pretty fussy at night right now actually, so not sure what is happening there. She is lovely and cheerful all day then gets quite sad at night. I am wondering if she got used to being beside us when we were at home and now is a bit lonely in her cot.

Nova it is not sickening to know you are uber-efficient as we can all hope it rubs off on us. Sounds a bit tough with family not healthy but so nice for them to see the lovely Nat. Poor DH with three weeks withdrawal from Nat!! You have done so well on your own all this time and your blues will blow away very quickly once you have him back with you. Have a fantastic reunion and enjoy enjoy enjoy. Hey wasn't there construction going on beside you? Hope that's all cleared up. Also I know what you mean about 24 and far fetched I thought that was going to happen to me but I seem to be doing fine in suspending disbelief so far as I am so enjoying the characters (also not the most close-fetched on tv).

Hi GG, nice to meet you too. Yes the wedding/christening was actually really chilled. We've both been through it before (I was widowed, dh divorced) so we could be fairly small and not worry too much about missing out. So glad your dp is getting through without more complications. And sorry to hear of the loss of your friend.

BEKs, poor you guys!! Just keep telling yourself this is great for their immune systems as they are building them up with each infecion they fight. You must be totally drained though. Have you caught any of it yourself? curious about your foul mouth -- do you give lessons?

Diege, can we assume you are getting through the nights on Gina? See, this is what is wrong with the laissez faire approach! Any tips?

It was a gorgeous day yesterday here too and we did a huge walk. I have been emboldoned (sp?) as we took the boys hiking on the weekend and dd LOVED it (had her on the baby bjorn for the first time since Christmas). I bought the new Marian Keyes book and read the first five pages (result!).

By the way on baby books we really love Barnyard Dance by Sandra Boynton. It is so so so cute. We have a load of hers. Also 'That's not my lion' which is very cute too -- there's a whole series.

CANDIE: I LOVE Marian Keynes, almost as much as Meave Binchy who is my absolute fave . The new MK is supposed to be one of her best, though I'm such a skinflint I'll be waiting for paperback . Well done for getting through 5 pages !!!!
ON sleep front, yes, we have full night's sleep, though she wakes (not out of hunger as not even that hungry at breakfast) at about 6 most mornings. All 3 dds have been early risers though, so put it down to being just one of those things . Have been thinking about your sleep situation this morning actually; had a look at what Queen Gina says, and it seems that if they are actually hungry, then she says just feed them as they won't settle any other way. She says secret to stopping it is to give small top up at 10.30ish, but more importantly to increase amounts in day, and make sure they are having no more that about 3 hours of naps per day. Don't know about you, but I'm always releived that they are actually hungry when they are unsettled, as it's better than having to try the dreaded water when they wake out of habit ; has anyone actually settled a baby successfully with water?? .
Well, out tonight with DH for a meal, as it's our wedding anniversary tommorrow (5 years). First thought was that I'd miss last part of the Family Man (not good thought!!!), so thank heavens for video!!

I already feel better knowing that he's on the plane and will be walking through the door at lunchtime. DH means everything to me and I adore him.

I used to work in a childrens library and then in a childrens book shop, and my speciality was picture books, so I'm going to have so much fun when Nat starts taking an interest.

I'm a feeder on demand I'm afraid - at this age it's still likely they're hungry. Nat went through the night from 16-20 weeks then we added a 3/4am feed, now she's just dropped it again (although we have also just gone up to two meals of solids a day). All I can suggest is resistance is futile (lol) accept it and it will seem a bit easier to deal with.

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She sat unsupported yesterday still no rolling though.

yes Diege we have settled with water before, but not for a while. Usually resort to the dummy instead.

Morning all,

Diege - LOL, you are funny! You and your programmes - enjoy your night out, have fun!

Nova - Happy homecoming for your DH! You must be so excited.
IKWYM, My dad sulked and didn't speak to me for ages when he knew my mum and her partner were coming to see the baby. Will be more sulking when the LO starts saying his name and that's if i'm lucky.

Not at all looking forward to weaning. Very happy with the way things are right now. Sounds terrible doesn't it?

We might go on holiday in 3 weeks time, trying to get best prices this morning. The next 2 weeks were an option but prices are sky high. If anyone knows a good website/travel agent...

Hi GG

x

Diege - LOL at 'teddy the wrong way up'. That is my life!
First-timers, you have been warned, cute little babies turn into an alien species who see the world completely differently from you

Morning,

Nova - thanks for the tip, you're so right, never even occured to me, I tend to leave things til the last minute and this really brought it home to me. I shall be getting out an ice cube before bed from now on . Interesting to hear that N is sleeping through again now she's upped to 2 meals a day. Sorry to hear it's been a struggle missing your dh, I'm not surprised, 3 weeks! Feel v.happy for you. Will you meet him at the airport?

Candi - lovely to read your posts. I'm so sorry to hear about the loss of your first husband, how devastating. How lovely to be able to find the strength to forge ahead and find happiness with your husband and beautiful baby daughter now[admiration].

ChaCha - hooray, you're coming to the meet! yay

Layla - a belated Happy Birthday to Layla!

BEKs - sorry you've got 'croc' babes again, hope everyone's better soon. E is just about over her cold now although dd1 is with v.sore tummy and throat/temp at the moment......... let's stick it out together [hanging in there][packet of biscuits][cup of tea][MN].

GG - hope everything goes well today with your dp leg [woman holding up planet earth].

Diege - hope you have a lovely meal/evening out tonight, and Happy Anniversary for tomorrow!

Hooray, my mum's coming over today! Have made a couple of loaves of bread with our new bread-maker, yum, what a great machine it is. Wake up to smell of freshly made bread every morning, it's so wonderful and so easy! DS1 camped in the garden last night with his cousin, they looked so sweeeet dressing up in all their different layers last night in preparation as it was so cold, although I didn't tell them that of course. Children all seem really settled into holiday routine now despite illness, we're all a bunch of night owl types so it suits us really well, loafing around in night wear until 10 and staying up late having dinner together, bliss.

Hello to everyone else too!