These babies are going to be calm, easy and sleepy at all the right times, and we're brooking no argument about it!

[Biscuitsandtea]

In here ladies - the other thread was getting full up so I thought I'd better start a new one.....

Will do some links to / from this thread but in the meantime please make yourselves at home

having a wee beer here, post organising all the (nearly 300) cds into the new Ikea storage. It's going to make a fair bit of room elsewhere too. to store more junk

DS2 back up already though and feeding. his face is v red and blotchy, not sure if he's just been rubbing his face (gets v dry skin) or if it's a reaction to some food he's had. round his mouth has been getting a bit red looking since we started. have moisturised him while he fed anyway.

think i need to go to bed. I've just read all your posts and can hardly remember a word.

eh.. glad DS is ok scarlet

good luck at wedding pet

lots of and brooking for dream and family.

DH woke me up at 6.30 to say he couldn't sleep after getting up with DS1 - thanks because I didn't really fancy another hours sleep [hangry]

No doubt he knew Hawthers that you wouldn't be able to live with yourself if you later found out he'd been awake while you slept [hhmm]

Gah! Bad night here which will v much disappoint my mother. Ds2 up 3 times and I'd gone to bed with a horrible headache and feeling sick anyway so could have kind of done with some sleep. DH v kindly got up the first time (don't know what time) then I got up at 2.something, then I was up from 4 until 5:30 with him. Little tyke. And then when I was feeding him, he spent the whole time pinching and scratching my side with his underneath hand and would have been doing the same with his top hand if I hadn't kept hold of it which makes it hard to MN one handed. He sort of pinches my boob which hurts and pulls it out of his mouth a bit making the latch mire painful too. double whammy [hhmm] He does this every feed now along with the odd bite and I'm getting a bit fed up with it. I think I'll give up before too long

Dream, M only rolled back to front quite recently - maybe 3 weeks ago, max (ie, at 7 months). She's now rolling everywhere and becoming a menace to put down. I was freaking out about the rolling when she turned 6 months but then she started rolling onto her side, so I stopped worrying quite so much. B and S will get there!

Biscuits, ouch. [hsad] M scratches my chest with her top hand a lot. Sometimes she gets very wound up and starts struggling to get free if I hold it. [hhmm] Hope you feel better this morning despite your disturbed night.

I am having a bit of a panic. There's an NHS advert at the moment encouraging women to check their breasts, and it says that any changes to the nipple should be looked at, including if they go a bit scabby. M's left nipple has recently gone all scabby and it looks bigger than the other one although that could be a rash. At first I thought she'd just scratched it, so I didn't pay much attention, but that was a week ago now and it's still scabby. DH put Sudocrem on it last night and I did again this morning but it still feels rough and looks bigger. I am not at all freaking out about breast cancer in a 7.5 mo

Sprry for my me me me post earlier

Dream it must be so worrying for you, especially with your in depth knowledge. But B is doing well to be sitting. I was just talking to a friend the other day who's little boy sat up at 6 ish mths but didn't roll or crawl until 11 mths. He does everything fine now at 2 and a half. I have another friend too who's dd was the same. I am sure S will catch up soon. But no matter how much we say 'it'll all be fine' (and of course we're right ) that won't stop you worrying will it. If you are concerned could you perhaps have an informal chat with one of your colleagues? You said before that you found that helpful when dd was doing her 'fall like a plank' thing?

For the record I'm sure that everything will sort itself out - they're just demonstrating that all children are different but that doesn't stop us mummies worrying and noticing everything they can't do.

Too - poor M! Maybe get it checked just to put your mind at rest. Could it be that she had scratched it and its got infected perhaps?

Oh I know I'm tired today - I just put mixed dried fruit all over ds2's weetabix instead of mine and had to pick it all back out again!

literally no sleep last night, think I must have managed something between midnight and two but that was it. I was in tears at 5am. Took A back to the doctor this am - lots of exclaiming at how snotty she is but nothing they can do.

I would have kicked my dh in the head for that hawthers!

I am currently sporting two jauntily angled baby scratches on my face. Menaces.

Oh, and ds2 still not sitting reliably at 7.5 mths. Or crawling.

He is however very dexterous at swiping away any baby wipe that goes near his mouth or incredibly snotty nose. He has lightening quick reactions in this particular field!

Any tips as to how to stop him pulling the tablecloth when we're sat at the table? He'll pull and pull and then try to chew it .

He is a Very Miserable Baby this morning. We're currently attempting weetabix and I've had to give up because he's just crying. He'd better not keep his up all day Anyone would think he hadn't got much sleep last night

Hmm, he just stopped crying and then started again because I sneezed - how jolly inconsiderate of me

Get rid of the tablecloth, Biscuits? If you need it for DS1, perhaps cover part of the table with the cloth but keep it away from DS2's end. M grabbed MIL's tablecloth when she was sitting on anybody's knee and pulled, but she couldn't reach it from her high chair so that was okay. I don't think I could stop her from pulling it, though. How does the Tripp Trapp work - does E have to sit right up to the table and use the tabletop, or does he have his own tray? If he's got his own tray, can you not just set him back a bit so he can't reach the tablecloth?

And yes, how dare you sneeze? [hgrin]

Pomme, you poor thing. Brooking for much more sleep tonight. Have you got one of those snot suckers? Although tbh I'm not sure an unhappy baby would really cooperate with you sticking something up its nose and sucking snot out...M scratched DH on his nose yesterday and made the tiniest mark and DH whined and whined. [hhmm]

M's nipple is looking slightly less scabby - will put Sudocrem on it at intervals all day and if it hasn't improved by tomorrow I'll take her to the doctor. I've got to phone up and book a smear test, joy.

He's right up to the table in the Tripp Trapp Too but then we need the tablecloth to protect the table from food / spills / bite marks

Arghhhhh!

Please. Stop. Crying. Baby. Please

That is all

With you biscuits - what is it with them at the moment?? Some kind of development stage? I think I remember dd1 being a pain and having disturbed sleep at this age too. In fact I remember Nov and Dec 2010 as bad months and that would have been 7-9 months. I thought it was to do with the early movement but maybe not.

A totally howled out the docs waiting room this am. All the old ladies were all sweet tpo start with and then got visibly annoyed.

Im sure the nipple is nothing too but I always reckon everything is worth getting checked out.

Sounds like a bad night all round :( Especially for you Pomme, you poor thing. After waking a couple of times before I even made it to bed, Iz woke up every hour, until I gave up at 2/3am (lost track) and flung her in bed with us. She woke up lots, but at least it was a lot less effort to wave a boob in her face before I fell back to sleep... on the plus side she's been very happy today!

Made a decision about work - going to delay going back until April. That gives me some time to concentrate on composing and see if I can earn enough through that and private teaching, and means she'd be 10 months old before someone looks after her - which we're much happier with. Yay! It also means I can now get much more excited about Christmas, rather than worrying about the impending doom of returning to work! .

Biscuits, no suggestions on the table cloth front I'm afraid! Is there no way you could get a heavier one that would be harder for him to move - or put some heavy things on it (centrepiece? Table mats?) that would make it harder for him to pull?

Iz is 5 and a bit months. Can sit for a few seconds, but then remembers that standing up/being straight and stiff is much more fun and does that, whic hcauses her to suddenly fall backwards at speed. She's perfected backwards shuffling, and occasionally accomplishes a forwards one through a diving sort of movement!

Too, hope M's nipple improves :( So scary when you think something could be wrong. I spotted blood in Iz's nappy a couple of days ago, coupled with a strange smell, and immediately went into worry overload, thinking UTI. The strange smell I think was just a strong nappy, apparently linked with teething (thanks Google!), and the blood turned out to be a sore spot on her bottom which I'd overlooked. I think it's natural for us to immediately think the worst, when there's probably a very simple/ordinary explanation!

oo biscuits you can buy clip things to go on tablecloths. they have them in cafes/restaurants sometimes?

Right - I'm going out in the car. At least the engine will drown out some of the noise........

Oh yes, I know what you mean, Pomme. Good thinking. I was going to suggest lashing the tablecloth down by attaching ribbons so you can tie it to the table and DS2 can't pull it off. Pomme's suggestion is much less work. Hope the car journey works!

Musical, yay for a happy work decision! That must be a real weight off your mind.

Hope the car journey worked Biscuits. I'm considering one of those with a nonsleeping DD at the moment. Pomme's idea of clips is much more sensible than any of mine...

Too, yes, it is! Also lovely to know I don't have to worry about the next decision ( do I go back at all or not, childminders etc) for another three months. . Haven't called my manager yet mind... that's a task for this afternoon :S

Oh dear sounds like some of you are having awful days. Biscuits I hope you're feeling better now? I hope you didn't have to drive around for too long?

Pomme I bet you're so pleased you're not having to go out tonight!

hawthers grounds for divorce I reckon!

Yay for delaying work musical. Try and forget about it now until after Christmas at least.

Hope the wedding's gone well pet?

Mine's the htc wildfire s Dream. I think there must be a fault with it, it seems to have a mind of it's own. The screen jumps around, it even rang my mum yesterday while it was on the table with no one touching it. Good job it was my mum and not DH's as WW3 might have started given what DH and I were talking about at the time...

Dream your boys development sounds fine to me, but I realise that will mean nothing as I am possibly the most neurotic mother on the planet with regards development. When I turned up for DS's appointment with a long list of concerns I was only half joking when I said to DH that I hope the doctor doesn't think I've got maunchausens by proxy! Probably spelt that wrong, but you know what I mean.

Oh Scarlet I know I shouldn't laugh but I just nearly spat my tea out at the idea of phoning MIL whilst taking about her [hgrin]

It's not voice controlled is it? Perhaps you've discovered a new feature of it [hhmm]

I feel better today thanks, although I am a bit sick of hearing DS2 cry and grumble and not seeming to make any difference

I can't wait for DH to come home - I'm fed up with today

A went to bed at 5 after crying from about 3pm. Fitting end to a fairly pants week. Thank GOD I am not going out tonight.

Hope E improves for the last bit of the day biscuits.

A phone acting like a spy for your MIL? Now that's terrifying...

Oh dear.

I've just looked at the Christening pictures.

I am an actual whale

I'm out at the mo not drinking not drinking not drinking okay well a little bit but I just saw Biscuits' post and I had to say - no you're not!!!! I'm your FB friend now so I can unequivocally state that you are gorgeous! I will not have another negative word said about you!!

Will catch up on the rest of the thread when I get home later.

biscuits I was going to say sellotape it under the table so its smooth and no edge for him to grab til i read pomme s sensible solution!!, maybe a temporary fix though til you see if any clips are suitable.

Poor crying babies. :( . It's so awful when they cry. Is a karvol plug in any use ofor A pomme? I do think its helped the boys, plus mattress up with a pillow under it etc. Sure you're doing all that stuff anyway. for you. B has had a very, very disturbed night for him, only stayed in his cot maybe 2 hours after waking at 10pm between then and morning. Whinging, crying, feeding. ?? as we're dairy challenging, I'm wondering if its that. Or teething. So I've reluctantly given the half a petit filous again at lunch, then he was inconsolable again so I'm covered in his lunch after getting him out of his chair so quickly. He was also distraught getting in initially though, then calmed down and had some veg puree in my arms, then tried the yoghurt (which he loves too, poor little tike if he is intolerant) . But overall, a windy miserable baby. He's still coughing, but don't think its worse. Sigh. So hard to be sure.

Have you been out with E biscuits? Any better?

Hope iz has napped better musical

& totally just a phase too

I keep hearing about the wonder weeks website/book which talks about unsettledness and developmental links etc, and on twins thread someone was saying about 35 weeks I think. Is that their age, ish?? How many weeks is 7-9 months?!

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Right, just posted what I wrote before but mn was offline. Bet its mostly irrelevant now..

Reading what's been written since!

You are right re the maths degree dream

Not that it seems to result in me doing maths

BUT I do recall that 30 weeks = 7 mths ish [hsmile]

Errr, that's pet for just a phase...

too, just get the doctor to check it, it'll set your mind at ease.

scarlet, I'm laughing at the thought of your phone call! Thank god it wasn't to mil...

scream I'm drinking pear cider. Do I need to put on a hoody and go and hang out on a street corner or is this acceptable?! oh do us another hilarious post later, go on!