May 2005 babies:Our babies are nearly toddlers [sad]

[SHHHH]

Thought I would start a new thread as the old one was getting long..!!!

anyone not allowing ds/dd to have the mmr and to have the seperate vaccinations instead..???

DH & I have thought about the single vaccinations but haven't gone any further. We have now got a date for the mr which is in about 2 weeks...decisions decisions....you think life will get easier once they arrive into the world safely...

Hi shhhh, I've read as much as I can about it all, and I've got a scientific background so I've tried to do it unemotionally and scientifically and we've decided dd will have her MMR. And then we'll just keep a careful watch on her; our godson had his first febrile convulsion the day after his MMR, he was prone to them anyway but the MMR brought on a fever which led to the convulsion. We're making sure she has it several weeks before we go on holiday too as some of the side effects can take over a week to show (such as rashes). It is a difficult decision though.

see I can honestly say I know nothing about the mmr..how ignorant is that.. ... I left dh to look into etc. But now the time has come I don't think dh wants to make the decision alone iykwim...

Due to me being pregnant I think dd needs to have a vaccination for mainly measles due to risk to me while pregnant...

I feel quite stupid really and a bit of an airhead that this is something that could impact on dd and I haven't looked into it...

I am now off to read what I can...Thanks littleb xx

Will have MMR here. Think we've had teh appointment letter but teh envelope just had a leaflet in, no letter...? Want to wait until she's 15 to 18 months though (think that's teh optimum time to have it) And I'll keep bfing until she has it.

It's all down to a balance of risk regarding the MMR. Yes there is a theoretical risk from the vaccine but we decided that it was a lower risk than them actually catching the diseases involved. Even though you make a logical decision, it's still terrifying actually taking them for the jab.
The thing that annoyed me most is that the doctors refused to accept that ds' reaction was caused by the jab - problably trying to cover their own backsides

Logic - that's the attitude we have too. It's balance of risk all the way with these things. I booked dd's appointment yesterday for when we get back from holiday. She will be just 14 months but I want it done well before I go back to work.

Both my two have been poorly for what seems like ages. Tummy bugs and constantly snotty noses. Dd sounds like darth vader again but I'm pretty sure it's either viral or teeth. Why is it that some lo's realy suffer from teething and some don't? We had it really easy with ds but dd is having a terrible time - and she still only has 2 teeth to show for it

well dd is now booked to have the seperate jabs....
Her 1st (rubella) will be end of July when she will be 14.5 months..I presume this is correct. The next ones being sept and oct. That reminds me, I just now need to cancel the gp appointment.

DS2 will be having the MMR, I'm just waiting for a new appiontment as I cancelled the last one due to him being a little bit 'off' at the time he was supposed to have it.

He has got me run ragged atm He never stops, and is STILL pressing buttons, climbing everything etc. The past few nights have been torture...he is waking an hour or 2 after going to sleep and screaming relentlessly, the only thing that is settling him down is letting him suck on me, which reduces me to a sobbing wreck so I can't let him do it. I'm going to speak to the hv either tomorrow or Monday about stopping bfing because I can't see a way of just letting him feed without the awful sucking creeping back in. After all this time I think I'll be quite sad to stop bfing.

Totally off the subject of babies, dh showed our neighbours how to use ebay and has stupidly left his user name and password saved on their laptopand they have been using our ebay account Honestly I can't believe the nerve of some people!! Needless to say we're a little bit miffed!!

Anyway, I hope you are all well, Shhhh how are you, hope the pregnancy isn't being too hard on you iykwim. You too Booge, how far on are you now??

maddison have you spoken to your hv about the sucking..? I have no advice sorry..do you want to stop or it just becuase of the sucking issue..??
TBH I finished at around 5 months mainly because I don't think dd was getting any benefit, she was really just using me as a comforter..huh using me aged 5 months lol..!!!
I totally see what you mean about the not wanting to stage..I felt so sad about it, happy that those days were over with in one respect BUT so so sad that I thought our close days were over with iykwim... She no longer "relied" on just me for something. All I can see is it gets better. It probably took me a month to feel more settled about it. I even remember trying to offer dd the breast after about 3 weeks as I wanted to "turn back time", know what..it didn't feel right. She even looked at me like "WTF"..!!! I have bottle now mamma..!! .

Chil and remember you 2 still have a very close bond and always will..well done for doing it for a year though...hats off to you..hip hip hooorayyy..!!!

BTW I am doing well. Tired, so I am tring to sleep while dd sleeps in the afternoon and although I haven't been sick (unlike with dd) boy do I feel sick..!! Feel a bit tight and unfair on dd as everything seems an effort but suppose once I get into my 2nd trimester it will all change..Thanks for asking thought.

I'm also asking after booge...think you are around 6 months..??? How are you doing..??

No I haven't spoken to the hv yet, I will get round to it sooner or later though. Problem is, DS2 seems to enjoy the feeding side of it, not just the sucking (which I've almost managed to stop him from doing).

I went out with the girls last night (my future sil's hen night), the first time I've been out since I got pg with DS2 I only managed 3 bottles of wkd and 2 cokes and couldn't take anymore lol!!! Was a bit worried since that was the first time DH has had the boys on his own for more than an hour, DS2 screamed and then sobbed for about half an hour, but DH managed so I feel another night out coming on lol!

Got a busy week this week; DS1's sports day is on Tuesday afternoon, Thursday DS2 has his MMR and DS1's class assembly on Friday, hopefully DS2 will be ok after the MMR so he won't scream the school down on Friday and we'll actually hear what is being said!

Shhhh, congratulations!!! I've only been catching a quick go on here in my lunch break recently so completely missed your news until I saw it on another thread. How are you feeling? It's exciting to have another on the way eh!! Did I say we're having a girl this time, do you want to know or leave it as a surprise?

DS just got his reminder for MMR too, I'm thinking like you Logic, he came up in a rash a couple of days ago and my immeadiate paranoia was measles so although the jab also worries me we are going ahead.

dd had her mmr at 11months and was absolutely fine - obviously she pulled the waiting room apart, barged into the nurses office, emptied my bag on the floor and climbed any of the chairs in the waiting room that had a person on them etc. but as far as the jab went it was great, she didnt even cry.

Hiya everyone,

Dd is booked for her MMR in 3 weeks, earlier than we hoped but I am going back to work!!! I have been offered a full-time job and I really want to do it. I am looking for a nursery for the two kids and she has to be vaccinated before I would send her to one. We are going to look at one place tomorrow but the cost of them staggers me. They range between £1500 and £1700 a MONTH for both of them! I had no idea. It's all a bit hectic. Dh now has two weeks off though which will be nice. We are just going on day trips.

Well DS2 had his MMR today, after spending 45 minutes waiting and him crying because he hadn't had his morning sleep, when it came to the actual injection he didn't cry at all!!! What a star!!

Logic, congratulations on your job Agree that prices for nurseries are astronomical though, but you have to be happy to leave your children in the care of these people. IMO if that means paying more then I would do it. Your DS is 4 soon isn't he? Round here (I'm sure) if they are in a private nursery at that age you get 12 hours per week free instead of sending them to the local LEA nurseries.

Hope you all enjoy your days out When do you start work btw?

Hi everyone. We're back in Oz now after another nightmare flight.
(If anyone is considering a long flight at this age.....don't!)
DD is doing ok now we're over the jetlag.
She has her first pair of shoes and is proudly walking around with them.
She had her first proper tantrum today when she wanted to play with 2 balloons but couldn't hold them both. Wow. She was shaking with fury.
It came as quite a shock to me.
(It was quite hard trying not to laugh though )

lol yummimummy at first tantrum, dd has little 'paddies' where she shouts and sits down, mainly at the newly fitted stair gates (between lounge and kitchen) but not really a full blown tantrum, yet!
Can't buy dd shoes yet, her feet are so wide they are off the scale, although apparently its down to high arches and not just fat feet, she seems comfy in her little soft leather shoes though, we'll see if her feet are standard shape in the autumn for proper shoes.
Glad the MMRs seem to be going ok, I'm expecting an appointment for dd on Friday.
Logic can you get tax credit towards the cost of the nurseries? It might help a bit, can't believe its so expensive though. Good luck with the new job and congratulations.

Thanks littleb, I have got a leaflet from the local council about childcare tax credit. I am hoping we will get some money back and I am hoping to use the voucher scheme for ds and I'm going to ask for a sibling discount! I'm really looking forward to it though. I haven't worked for 4 years.

Hi Maddison, thanks :-)
I start work last day of next month. I agree about the nurseries. I think I would rather pay the extra than have a childminder. Apparently the "in thing" to have in nurseries now is French lessons! :-)

Yeah DS1's class had a presentation to do in assembly today and they sang a song in French. Very cute to hear from 5 year olds!!!

hi booge, yes it is lovely to be expecting again although I am waiting till aftre 12 weeks when I can relax a little and hopefully not feel so ill...god I can't even remember if this feeling goes...! Seems like it lasts forever.

I am doing ok, just tired and sick. Hopefully we will also find out the sex of baby as we did with dd. DH & I hate surprises..!!!

maddison, glad the presentation went well for your ds..like you said..how cute!!

Good news, well exciting news at our end. Last night dd stood alone..!!! She hasn't walked alone yet but dh & I just know it will happen one day soon. It was amazing to watch her let go of my leg and bend her legs slightly and she just stood there in a kind of fashion..!!! She didn't stand straight for fear of falling I think..!! She also did the same with dh..it was nice that she did it at bed time for us to both see..heart melting...

It's lovely when they stand isn't it, shhhh? Dd hasn't taken another step since that one in the garden! She's still crawling. Still, plenty of time.

yes it is logic. She's been standing for months now but has never attempted to "walk" till friday. Like your's though, funny thing is she hasn't walked over the weekend. Hey ho..!!!

One step at a time ..!!

btw how hot is it today..? It's been 32 degrees here..gosh and we have been avaoiding a holiday in Dubai due to the heat lol think it's been hotter here today!!

Shhhh - congrats on DD walking
We're off for a weekend away in 2 weeks and leaving DD behind with MIL
I was asked when she was 10 months old and though " Oh yes, she'll be really old when she's 14 months old"
Ha ha.
I never would have agreed if asked in the last few weeks.
So, I'm winding down the BFing and changing her nightime routine ( don't think MIL would be able to help out with the BFing!).
I'm worried about 2 things:

1. that she will ignore me when we get back
2. that MIL won't cope with her for a full WE. Anyway, I've roped in SIL to help out MIL for a bit. Hopefully it will be ok, and it will be great to spend some good quality time with DH alone. BTW we're trying for number 2 now. DD is really into the Wiggles ( do you have them in the UK?)

hi ym...Big step going away for the we and hopefully all will go well. TBH I think the concerns we all have all disappear once we get back and find out that all was ok. I would hate to leave dd alone for even a few hours with either my pil or my parents but thats just me. VVVV protective.

I'm sure all will be fine as your mil has done it before . Although i'm the type to think "yeah but that was years ago, things have changed,she doesn't know what she likes to cuddle up to in bed or she doesn't know how she likes her bread to be cut etc etc"..!!

DD will miss you like made and will show it when you get back. I'm sure she will be so happy to see you. Quite a nice feeling i bet. See dd isn't like that so much when she see's me BUT like dh said, becuase i'm with her 24/7 she takes it for granted that I will never be more than a few minutes away.

You have 2 weeks left so if I was you I would be writing down everything that you do with dd. What she likes/dislikes, remember things she will need and what toys she loves..I take it she will be at your mil's..? and your mil won't be staying at your's..?? Don't know why I'm telling you this as you have just returned from the uk so will be very prepared at what dd will/won't need..!! .

Sorry never heard of the wiggles..??!!! Take it they are like the tweenies..??

Good luck with baby number 2...I thought you would be trying soon. Fingers crossed it happens quickly for you as well .!!

Thanks Shhhh.
Yes, I need to pass on all that info re routine, etc. to MIL.
Luckily MIL generally defers to me on all topics DD related so that I know she will do things my way while I am away.
That's quite reassuring.
We have friends who do this twice a year. They have older kids (7 and 5), but have been doing it for years. I really respect the way they parent (in fact so much so that they are DD's Godparents) and I think a couple of days away won't kill anyone but will be really good for DH and I.
So, I would like to think it's something we will do at least once a year. But that's probably a bit premature.....we'll see how this goes
Thanks for the good wishes re TTC