Postgraduate brookers - Brooking No Argument for happy, healthy and sleeping DCs..

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New thread time!

sorry to hear about your nan. wants :(

also about DD's fall dream, the poor wee thing.

can't get back to sleep and DH breathing really noisily. if he wakes DS2 i will go nuts. fell asleep fully clothed at his bedtime feed and woke up at 11.30 and had to get undressed, brush teeth etc.

also neighbours talking noisily outside now.

will post properly once i get a sleep zzz.

Hello all, sorry for the radio silence! Guests all week, but they've gone now. It was great fun having company for both me and M.

So sorry to hear about your nan, Wants. And about your relatives' and friends' babies, Hawthers.

On the tooth front, I had a root canal in a front bottom tooth aged 15 and it went a bit greyish, so the dentist (who happens to be my uncle) sort of painted it with white enamel to make it match my other teeth. If your DS1 needs it, I'm sure he could get that done too, Hawthers. But Brooking hard that it won't be necessary.

We had an Ikea trip on Fri - me, M, DSis and a friend. Started at 1.30, DH came to pick me up at 4 and got sucked in too and we didn't leave until 6. I bought surprisingly little - totally missed the baby sleeping bags, grr, and got caught up in a highchair dilemma. I had wanted this but when I got there I suddenly wanted this or this, which are more than double the price. I then decided (after seeing them in the cafe) that I would settle for the cheap one in red, only to discover that they don't stock red ones in either Edinburgh or Manchester (PIL could have picked it up for me). Am now bidding for one on Ebay instead. M was so funny in the cafe - totally fascinated by the people and the noise and the movement, so completely disinterested in feeding. Put her back in pushchair and get about as far as the first room display and she started howling for food.

So sorry to hear such sad news from Wants and Hawthers. Thinking of you both. :(

I can't believe so many mini No Brookers are ready for weaning and high chairs already! I won't be weaning A until we get back from California, so she'll be 5 months then. It seems so far away!

I hope Dream's DD's tooth isn't hurting anymore. How is A's reflux Pomme? Any improvement from the meds/dairyfree diet/weaning? I hope all the mini No Brookers are in good health and sleeping well.

Is anyone else swamped with broody hormones?! It's like all the crazy love I have for DD is so huge and overwhelming that it needs a second child just to soak up the overflow! Okay, that's a poor explanation, I'm not sure how to describe this feeling! I'm still 100% committed to adopting, that's been important to me for a very long time, but there's part of me that wants to revert to the plan that DH and I had originally - two bio DC, ten year age gap, then two adopted DC. I find myself calculating the best time to get pregnant again in order to have an 18 month age gap between PFB and PSB. I don't want to give away or sell anything we've bought for DD, just in case.

The only thing holding me back is the wretched SPD. I just couldn't do that again. Another 4 months of constant pain and being stuck at home?! Possibly 6 months this time?! How would I look after DD if I can't even walk?! Sigh. It's such a stupid thought. Can one of you poor souls who had to listen to me whinge everyday for 4 months please snap me out of this?! It's just my hormones right? I just need to wait it out and these feelings will go away?

Sorry to hear of sad news Hawthers and Wants

How is dd now Dream? I think BIL lost his front teeth when he was 18 mths (I'm sure I've heard a story where he but his cousin and they knew it was him because there was a bit mark missing two front teeth!). Hope she's doing ok xx

Ds1 slept at the in-laws last night and we were in bed by 10 (after staying up for the Olympic opening ceremony the night before). Ds2 slept through until 7am, fed and then went back to sleep until about 11. We slept until 10 and then watched the Olympics until 11 - t'was awesome. I feel like a new woman. Then the in-laws brought ds1 back at 1pm and we went for a nice roast dinner at a pub in our village and ds2 dropped off to sleep just as the food arrived and slept until I woke him up to feed at 4:30. Has been an easy day so far even though we got drenched walking to the pub.

Anyway hope you're all having a nice relaxing weekend xx

sorry to hear about your nan wants
Congratulations on the arrival of your niece. I was wondering how your little nephew is getting on now?

Dream poor DD and her teeth. I know a few little ones who have had milk teeth knocked out by accident and then adult ones have been fine. I know it's upsetting though

Scream why do you think most people don't stop at one DC? I'm afraid that broody feeling will probably stay now it's here and it doesn't disappear after DC2 either! Would you definitely get spd again? It does seem a shame to stop at one bio DC if you're already yearning for another. Adoption is very admirable though. Do you know anyone who's adopted any DC?

DS stayed at my parents house last night. DH and I decided to be adventurous and went out for a meal. We had DD all ready for sleep, fed and in her sleepsuit and tucked up in her car seat with a blanket. She woke up as soon as we got out of the car at the restaurant and refused to sit in her car seat while we ate. So we ended up taking it in turns to hold her and eat one handed. She didn't cry though and had lots of admirers. I admit I was a little PSB when there were a couple of ladies came over to stroke her with faggy fingers and made DH down his pint so we could bring her home. We were also exhausted from only getting 2 hours sleep after watching the opening ceremony Friday night, then SFF for the first time in over a year so were asleep by 11pm last night. DD woke for a feed at 5.30 then went back to sleep and the 3 of us then woke up at 10am. Fantastic. Don't know why I still feel so knackered.

Glad you had lots of sleep too last night Scarlet - must have been the night for it . Also impressed at any extra curricular activities after the opening ceremony - I was astounded to still be up after midnight!

Scream I meant to say, like Scarlet says it would be a shame to stop at one when you'd like another. But the SPD is obv a concern - have you asked the wise masses of Mumsnet if anyone has been in a similar position and how they've coped with subsequent pregnancies? I'm sure there must be others who've been in a similar boat?

Well, truth be told I'd much rather have been asleep Biscuits, but it's the first time DH had made advances so I didn't want to be a killjoy .

Your dedication to the cause is impressive Scarlet

I think purple had spd with her second and a toddler?

Not great here - relapse connected to weaning, hospital this am. Came away with more gaviscon to try again with and some neonate as might try that in beaker for when we're out and about as bf a refluxer in public is a bit demoralising and it's getting me down.

Yay for sleep. Jealous of that and the sff!!

I have to keep inspecting dds grazed knees, and she keeps signing how she bumped her head and hurt her tooth but clearly she'll live! Now the nose/ lip/ mouth swelling has gone down her front tooth doesn't look quite so bad- diagonal piece of tooth gone, so front teeth don't look level any more but it could have been SO much worse. She's still on soft diet but doing fine, thanks for asking.

Really sad about both your relatives and friends babies hawthers , such a horrible thing to happen to anyone :(

scream my broodiness didn't go until I was pregnant again! When DD is just 9-10 months for an 18 month age gap like me :) . There is no way you could do it without a nanny or something though if you're not mobile, and keep your DD safe and sane with outings etc imo. I'm already a little broody again . I'd ask on here and see how others coped. I'm so glad I've 3 children sometimes

Very of all the sleep had biscuits & scarlet, how funny your ds1's both had sleep overs! Impressed with the SFF too, only happened once here, and can't see it til the babies start blooming going down in the evening and/or both sleeping a bit better. Though b does really try, and I put him down wide, wide awake at 5 am this morning after he woke up for his first night feed (!!!) just while I went to the loo, had a drink etc and he stopped complaining, cooed to himself for 30 minutes or so then fell asleep! . S however, the bad, bad baby was in with me from 1am onwards ... He has zero interest in self settling, but still has this bad cough too. Don't know what I'll do with him though

too people rave about the Antilop, good choice. And you've got to love a bit of ebay :) .

Speaking of which I love the BB bouncer and boys seem to like it too.

Oh Pomme am really hoping things take a turn for the better soon. Does anyone know what sort of age they grow out of this sort of thing?

Scream, I had SPD in both pregnancies but the second time round, it started earlier (c. 10 weeks rather than 28 or so), wasn't so painful (think was better prepared to cope with it: special giant pillow, support belt etc) and vanished sooner post-birth. The VB definitely made the SPD worse, and I did more immediately post-birth, too, such as long walks up and down hills, climbing fences etc. Not sure that's any help to you whatsoever! Mine wasn't nearly as bad as yours didn't stop me whining, though and I didn't have to cope with being immobile. You seemed to recover pretty quickly - do you have any issues now? Only you can make your decision. I did read in last week's Saturday Times that adoption (ie, the process of being approved and getting a child) is very, very hard and takes ages. That might be a factor for you if you want a baby now! I was kind of going on the assumption that if I lost weight and got pretty fit before my next pg then the SPD wouldn't be as bad...(disclaimer: this is based on nothing except my own personal assumption)

I have had broody episodes but right now am secure in the knowledge that I don't have to do another pg straight away but I will in a year or two. If I knew I wasn't going to have another then I think I would be massively broody/unhappy. I'm no help, am I?

of Biscuits' and Scarlet's sleep - have been up til 1am every night since Thurs entertaining guests, plus getting up around 4.30 each time to feed M, and having to get up and stay up at 7/8ish. Am shattered. DH and I discussed SFF tonight but couldn't summon up much enthusiasm think probably will wind up in bed asleep by 9.30 instead.

Am off to bed. Laters, Brookers!

I'm in awe of all you ladies that have got through pregnancies with SPD - you're all superwomen!

I guess for Scream the immobility is really the biggest issue with a child to look after? Any pain would be bad but I can't think how you'd look after a child unless you could perhaps get a nanny or even an au pair for the duration of the pregnancy / straight after to help with things? Even if you weren't immobile this time it would be hard to be up and down looking after a child / preparing meals etc.

I think if you could work out a way to have some live in / full time support it could be doable - you'd be able to do some things with dd but you'd have someone there for all the practical stuff.

biscuits - The majority seem to improve by 1, with some going on until toddler doom (please, no!). I started a thread in bf and bottle f and some people suggesting massive improvements at 6 months so fingers crossed for three and a half weeks time!

I want no more children. I now want to start producing small businesses. Only issue is dh being right all along which annoys me!

oh, missed your post pomme, so sorry A is still refluxy and unhappy. Fingers crossed things improve soon. If it helps, someone on the twins thread had a really bad refluxer, whose 9 ish months now and miles better, lactose intolerant related too.

I may not want any more children, sometimes. I don't think I have an option though, dh adamant he does not and will not want more than 3.

Right, to bed. blummin S will no doubt be up soon. I was just too tired to fight the good fight and keep putting him back last night, he slept with me from 1am onwards...

No brooking for Pomme's DD to drastically improve in 3 and a half weeks!! (Six months old?! Wow!)

Dream I'm so glad your DD is feeling okay, hopefully the grazes will heal soon. How lovely that she can sign how she's feeling to you! Little A and I are starting baby sign right after we get back from California. She's pretty young for it though so we'll almost certainly end up repeating the course in Jan, or maybe trying a new course in Jan. Fingers crossed for S to follow his little brother's good example soon!

Scarlet and Dream SFF?! What is this mythical activity of which you speak? Actually DH and I have also managed to squeeze in SFF once (in between our hectic schedule of constant bickering). I have however let slip my ridiculous level of broodiness to DH now though, so I expect he would be wary if I tried to initiate SFF again any time soon!

Biscuits I did start a thread about the SPD in pregnancy, but as expected most people seem to get it earlier and more severely in subsequent pregnancies. For me 50% of the concern is looking after DD, and as you've suggested I think we would need live in help of some kind, at the very least an au pair, better would be a mother's help but ideally it would be a nanny. The other 50% is just the thought of all that pain again. In an ideal world I would have weekly physio sessions, at home, plus weekly osteopath home visits, as well as going to regular pilates classes. In reality trying to pay for all that, and also going on maternity leave as early as possible (23 weeks if I combine my six weeks' of annual leave with the earliest mat leave start date of 29 weeks) would probably bankrupt us! Sigh.

Too thanks for reminding me of your experience. Like you I'm also wondering if strengthening my core before getting pregnant again would help. My SPD went away quite quickly after my cs. There was a huge improvement in the first week, and the rest of the discomfort faded gradually as I started walking greater distances each day over the next few weeks. I haven't had any pain at all for several weeks now. I really believe my recovery happened so quickly because of the cs. There are so many women who continue to have problems for months after a vb.

We have several estate agents coming round tomorrow to value our house for rental. Wish us luck! We're hoping to try renting out our house for 12 months whilst we rent a house near the primary school we want DD to go to. We're just not sure if we want the extra space/bigger house badly enough to leave our current location. So we're hoping to do a 12 month trial run.

So what did everyone think of the opening ceremony?! I liked most of it. I was pretty nervous after the awful performance during the Beijing closing ceremony though, so my expectations were set pretty low!

Same here Scream. I was cringing during the handover in Beijing and was expecting more of the same Friday night. I was really impressed by most of it! I enjoyed the Industrial Revolution and the lighting of the cauldrom best. I did get a bit ragey though when McCartney started Hey Judeing

Good luck with the estate agent. Sounds like you've a lot on your plate at the moment re the house, big holiday and thinking about more DC.

Pomme sorry to hear A's still struggling

Glad DD's on the mend Dream

Hello! I love the Tripp traps, they were an investment as they last until adult hood. We bought a 6 seater table with 4 chairs so they better last!

Baby Bjorne looks interesting but don't think it is something I need... I am just tempted because I have loads of amazon vouchers. Speaking of which amazon have lots of reduced toys, starting to think of Christmas already....

Sff I generally will choose to sff, rather than sleep.. It is good for our marriage and I really enjoy it!

We would definitely have a third child, it is complicated by my sister living here. :( she costs a frickin fortune with her school. Plus three bed house (3 smalls sharing?) and when we get a car it I'll have to be big!

Scream spd with another child is really hard, I do wonder if having another sooner would be better as toddlers need to be taken out for a walk. Etc whereas you can do a lot more floor play with a bit younger child? On he other side, need a baby that can walk up the stairs lone and not be carried as it hurts todo those things. I am worried about spd returning but hope o strengthen my core and I will pay for a childminder if I need to.

Dream did your bag come?

Pomme it wil get better, it will!

Hi all, just had D weighed again and he is 10lbs 4ozs so hv is happy for me to leave clinic for 2 or 3 weeks. She was the nice one so no mention of cc etc, she just told me what a good job I am doing:)
scarlet thanks for asking about my nephew. Things are better but not brilliant. His head is fusing again and some minor brain damage may have occurred either before or during the last op. It means he may have tendency to fit and behaviour issues. He is happy and mobile so we are hoping for the best.
I have just found out that ikea do a range of children's textiles with an owl print. I love owls and have been looking for things for D s nursery for ages so a trip to southampton is definatly on the cards:)

Wants what happened to your poor nephew?

Good news on fattening D up! Why cc tho? I love owls too, I think it is fabric.com that has a lovely owl minky,

Jen how are the reusables going?

aloha! Please excuse my lack of recent posts. I have tried to lurk but not always successfully.
pomme brooking for dd to grow out of her reflux asap. And big hugs to dreams dd and all the other lovely littlies who need it.
scream good luck with the house and when does your trip to California start? How exciting!
Well, I have been breastfeeding for 3 weeks 5 days. Thats 26 days of sore nipples (which i think might be starting to get better thanks to the bf clinic and my hv, although off to gp later to rule out thrush), 2 bouts of mastitis and anti-bs and 1 bout of pharyngitis (sp?) and a lost voice. I don't think i have ever had this much wrong at any one time ever before! But for today I am in a good mood (although a bit tired). DD still isn't putting weight on though. HV weighed her today and she is still the same weight as last week. How do you get a demand fed baby to gain weight? Answers on a postcard please.....
In other news, we have bought a house! Offer was accepted on friday night. Now to get all the solicitors bumpf sorted out.
I will try to get back on later and not be so slack in posting, but need some lunch so off to the kitchen to hunt some down.

Oh wants sorry it's not better news about your nephew. Must be very worrying for you all.
Have you seen this owl bed linen set from Dunelm? Very cute.
Congrats on D's weight gain.

Ninja sounds like you've had all sorts of horrible things thrown at you. But huge congrats on the house. Have you sold your flat already? Re the weight gain, I've had very similar issues with DD that finally now seem to be getting resolved. I ended up offering feeds to her even when she was happy and settled and resorted to formula top ups in the end. What does your HV suggest?

DD's been weighed today. 10lb 10z, still just above 2nd centile and 7oz on in a fortnight. HV seems to think that's ok and that's she's meant to be tiny. Why was she born on 75th centile then?

Hi all!

Ninja, my answer would be to offer the boob more frequently. I know it's hard when you're knackered anyway, but my MW told me to feed M every 2 hours, which involved setting the alarm and waking her up if necessary. Also, when she starts to fall asleep during a feed, blow on her head or tickle her feet to keep her awake and feeding for a bit longer. How long is she feeding for? The whole foremilk/hindmilk thing may be a bit questionable, but I suppose it's worth trying to keep her feeding for more than 10 mins to get the hindmilk. If she falls asleep too quickly, change her nappy to wake her up and then try again.

Hurray for the house! of house buying. I want one! Mine is rented, so not really mine.

Wants, yay for D's weight gain! Well done you! for your nephew, though. Brooking for everything to turn out ok.

Purple, why does your sister live with you? If you don't mind telling us, that is! Oh, and Christmas shopping?

Scream, didn't watch the opening ceremony but now feel like I ought to watch it on iPlayer as it's history in the making, iyswim. Not sure I can be bothered right now, though.

M was up, on average, every 2 hours last night. From about 7.45pm, we had 10.15, 1.30, 4.30, 5.30, 7.30, 8 and 8.30 (the last 2 were really wishful thinking on my part). Gaah. Where is my good little sleeper? Did the fairies take her away? Jabs tomorrow morning, oh no!

yes we sold the flat before dd arrived which was nice as I didn't have to worry about viewings etc!
She was on 50th centile when she was born and is now heading rapidly towards the 2nd centile. HV said she isn't too concerned just yet as she is alert, looks healthy and she has observed 2 feeds plus she knows I've been going to the bf clinic but she wants her weighed regularly and is going to see where we are next week before we formulate a plan. She was 7lb8oz when born and now 7lb5oz. which doesn't seem like a lot lost but she is nearly 4 weeks old so should be filling out a bit. The sore nips aren't helping and i've ingested a lot of painkillers in the last few weeks. Ive been veering wildly between wanting to continue to bf and wanting to express & top up where neccessary. I'm not getting too spend any time with ds at the moment and I feel bad about it. I'm very glad to hear your dd is putting weight on though, thats great news. How old is she now?