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November 05 Babies, they're on a roll......

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Busyalexsmummy · 04/03/2006 22:01

Here, thats better!

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Diege · 12/03/2006 12:24

Hope you have (are having!) a great party for Ben BEKS!!! Seems like he has turned a corner in his recovery, though the coughy stage is horrible in itself Sad.Have a great time CANDIE, any chance of wedding piccies being posted on your return?
BEAR, have decided to reduce dream feed by an ounce every couple of days, and then hopefully to have dropped it in a few weeks...oh the luxury of being able to go to bed early! Smile. Think you have dropped it already?
Hospital tommorrow with dd1 for scan, following a urine infection Sad; the same history of kidney dilation as Libby, so they are just keeping an eye on things...still, really hate scans, and get really anxious going. If it's too snowy, may have to cancel though, as baby and toddler on 2 buses isn't fun in a snow storm!
Well, packed away all Libby's little baby clothes today...Sad; almost 100% sure there will be no more babies, so a sad moment...still, you have to stop at some point, and I think 3 is our limit! Grin. Still...
Right, lunch time!
Diege Smile

tex111 · 12/03/2006 15:43

Beks, hope the party went well and Ben was well enough to enjoy it!

Candie, have a fantastic trip! Can't wait to see some pics when you get back. As far as the movies, I would get DH to stay home with Tobes so Rosie and I could go along. I think Tobes is too old. Sad Congrats on the weight loss. I'm actually back to pre-preg weight but it's way more than it should be.

BAM, just saw the pics and the baby stuff looks fantastic. I've seen that kind of thing in the States but not in England. So lovely.

Diege, good luck with the scan tomorrow. So scary. What are they looking for? Hope it all goes well.

beartime · 12/03/2006 15:58

Candi - have a great time! And yes we're trying for no.2 - but no return of ovulation as yet...

Diege - yes I dropped dream feed at 13 wks - Libby should be v. ready for dropping it now I'd have thought so long as you do it gradually.

Diege · 12/03/2006 16:15

Hi! Smile. Have been reading due in Nov 2006 - how bizarre to think that was us a year ago Sad Grin. See there are a few 4th timers there! Wink.
Yes, BEAR, I think you're right about late feed...always cling onto this one, as scared of night waking! Will def. do it gradually!
TEX: thanks for goods wishes with scan. DD1 (Jasmine) had pylectasis at my antenatal scans, and after delivery (fluid round kidneys; when they wee, some travels back up into renal pelves_); it's usually harmless, but after an infection there can be scarring to kidney, and kidney damage. She had the all-clear 2 years ago, so they are just being ultra-cautious. Worst case scenario would be if there was fluid still, she would be put on antibiotics till she's 5 (JUly), but after that kidneys are developed sufficiently to cope, so would stop then. I'm sure all is well, but I am a worrier! Funny as all dds have had this (3 in 100 babies do), but they still say it's not hereditary? (though my consultant sees a potential case study...fame at last!).
Right, sorry to bore you all Blush. Waiting for dds to come back from 'bear hunt' in forest with DH! Thought I'd get some rest, but L is sooo grouchy this afternoon.
Speak later,
Diege Smile

Diege · 12/03/2006 16:19

BTW BEAR, I was pregnant with dd2 when dd1 was 5 months Shock, planned too. I know others disagree, but worked really for us and they are the best of friends, so good luck on that front Grin

BEKsmum · 12/03/2006 17:10

Afternoon girls, well we survived the party and good fun was had by all. Ben was a lot better today, just suffering with a cough and cold but I felt better having pre warned all the mums.

He's come back with a mountain of presents, which I have no idea what I am going to do with as I'm rapidly running out of space, thank god we're having aloft extension in a few weeks time, so that Ben can move all his stuff in to our room, which is much larger!

Candimom, hope you have a fantastic time and that Georgia enjoys being a bridesmaid at mummy & daddy's wedding as well as enjoying her own special day. Looking forward to seeing the pictures when you get back.

Diege, hope all goes well with the scan tomorrow, it must still be very worrying even if this is the 3rd time you've been through it. You're not convicing me that Libby is your last by the way!!!

Busy off to have a look at your products once I've been on here but from what everyone is saying it sounds like you've come up with a great idea.

Hope you are all having a great weekend and that those of you with snow are having fun in it.

Speak to you all later Beks

beartime · 12/03/2006 17:27

Diege - one night waking won't make a habit (I think Gina makes us scared sometimes!) so even if you dropped it and she woke up you could just resume it the next night. I dropped it once he was down to 15mins total and just went for it and it worked! Thanks for the reassurance abt the baby - was thinking about it today - I don't really feel ready for the whole preg, birth, newborn thing but I want the end result!

novadandypowder · 12/03/2006 21:47

well, despite my best intentions I started weaning Natalie today. Got an Annabel Karmel book on friday, made some purees yesterday, and gave her a taster of apple today. So far, so good.

She's getting a lot stronger on her tummy now, but still not turning over.

Hope you all had a nice weekend (poorly babies permitting) Grin

LaylaandSethsmum · 12/03/2006 22:02

Nova well done for lasting this far! Smile I gave Seth first solids at 17 weeks, the advice changes so much only 3 yrs ago when I had DD advice was to wean at 16 weeks!!!

After all its only tasters isn't it Grin

novadandypowder · 12/03/2006 22:05

Well she is 5 months, and you're right it's only tasters thus far.

And well done Rodeo (I think it was you?) for the 'bulk cooking' advice. One carrot managed to make a weeks worth of puree!!

beartime · 12/03/2006 22:29

Oh well, I was apparently weaned at 6wks and am v. healthy!

So are Londoner and me the only ones still holding out then?

I just read an archived story on MN of a twin that died bcos of botched care at birth -otherwise perfectly healthy and was in tears. Now that I have my own baby its so much closer to home because I imagine losing him and it would be so awful. Anyway have to remind myself he's fine Smile

Busyalexsmummy · 13/03/2006 00:22

No, Im not weaning for as long as poss, hopefully doing "baby led" weaning but am leaving it till(if I can) during or after the summer. Im too lazy and cant be arsed to go through all the hassle of pureeing etc all over again...Grin

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beartime · 13/03/2006 04:41

Sitting up here cos Caleb's noises woke me - I think he went back to sleep but its so freezing I shouldn't be surprised if he woke up again cos of the cold, so I turned the central heating on for 15 mins and thought I can play on MN!

BAM - if you wean in Summer that's past 6 mths isn't it? If LLL is right and you don't need the extra iron of solids at 6 mths then how late can you wean for the baby's health, and what's the ideal time, do you know?

JenJam · 13/03/2006 04:43

hi beartime
just posted on the b'feeding thread.
i can't sleep. finn has been grizzling tonight so i've been in and out of his room patting him on the tummy. last time i fed him, then needed to feed myself. have been quite sick (vomiting) over last couple of days (golden u will call you tomorrow -sorry had to cut our conversation short on friday); now better and starving

anyhow want to post this quickly so beartime you can see you are not alone!

JenJam · 13/03/2006 04:43

beartime do you feel like you are being stalked?

beartime · 13/03/2006 04:47

aah thank you! No I don't feel lie I'm being stalked - I think you're just like me - searching for threads to post on, but nobody's awake!!

Sorry about the vomiting thing - the tummy thing hardy ever works for Caleb unless its DH doing it! I think he must associate me with milk Grin

Anyway must go turn the heating off and go to bed - byeeee!

beartime · 13/03/2006 07:58

ok here goes: [gulp]
current weight: 10st 8lb
goal weight: 8st 10lb
weekly weight loss goal: 1.5lb (as bfing)
diet: weightwatchers
am on 30pts a day which is loads but still seem to get hungry and keep binging and breaking the diet! Also am hoping my ovulation comes back and can conceive so am in a race against time as I can't really diet while pregnant.

Anyone know why? What's the difference between pg and bfing apart from that with bfing the baby is bigger? Either way they need to grow don't they, but how is it OK to lose weight (on a balanced diet obviously) while bfing but not while pg?

tex111 · 13/03/2006 08:34

My turn...

Current weight: 75kg (that's 11 stone 11lb!!) Blush

Goal weight: would love to get back to 9st 7lb but would be happy with 10st

Weekly goal: 2lb

Diet: Weightwatchers, No Count. I find it easier than counting up points every day.

Beartime, must admit I did Weightwatchers during first trimester with Rosie. I had had a couple of miscarriages and didn't want to get my heart set on the pregnancy until I knew everything was OK. I just made sure I ate plenty of food and kept it healthy. To be honest my biggest weight issue is sweets so just cutting them out made a big difference. I think when they say you shouldn't diet while pregnant they're thinking of people who do extreme diets like Atkins or crash dieting. WW is quite healthy and reasonable so I wouldn't think it would be a problem.

goldenoldie · 13/03/2006 08:42

Nope - not weaning yet either. Hoping to wait till I go back to work and leave it to the nanny to make a start. Do have a supply of 'all good stuff' - organic baby puree stuff from Waitrose in the freezer.

Weight - 11st 7lbs (huge fat cow)
Goal - 10st (fat cow)
dream weight - 9st (Bootylicous!), yeah - dream on..................

weekly weight loss goal - 1lb
on SW, but the weight, after the first stone, has not shifted. Might have to go to something more drastic - any suggestions???

Jen - the DTs are better - let me know if you fancy meeting up this week.

LillJ - any news?
sorry

goldenoldie · 13/03/2006 08:45

ops - the sorry was a typo - apart from being sorry I'm so fat!!!

beartime · 13/03/2006 08:45

Tex - that's good you did it in 1st trimester - maybe lots of people do it but don't admit it? I'm ashamed to say that my problem is probably going off the diet and then no self-control so even if I had a maintenance diet during pg it would be better than nothing!

I actually eat better on WW than I do when not on a diet cos I have to eat lots of veg so it might even be better for me when pg. Plus last time I put FAR too much weight on esp. in the last trimester.

LilJ · 13/03/2006 10:00

Gosh you all have been busy on here! I've been busy organising a surprise birthday party for my brother that took place on Saturday and was a big success - I was very proud that I managed to sort it out and keep it a surprise and he was absolutely gob-smacked!

Nate is doing very well - he's soooo lovely these days. but I do think we're beginning to teeth, all the signs are there - drooling, red cheeks, screaming for no apparent reason. THankfully my sis-in-law made DH buy some homeopathic teething tablets in the States which work like magic and put him right off to sleep.They're made by Hyland's and I'm going to see if I can find them in the UK as it would be awful to run out when he's well and truly teething!

I'm trtying to start his baby book (bad Mummy for waiting so long), but it is hard to do right with him around, especially now that he's trying to help me by moving stuff on the table in front of us, etc. I don't think glue & baby can possibly be good combination! Oh well I'm sure I'll get around to putting it togther by the time he turns 13 or so ...

Gotta run as someone is getting hungry.

J xx

Busyalexsmummy · 13/03/2006 10:44

beartime, LLL says this(you may have seen it before?)

Television commercials will have you believe your baby needs solids for the iron supplement. Your milk has iron in it, and while in small quantities, it's very easily absorbed. Some doctors may want to check your baby's blood for anemia at about nine months. This can put your mind to rest. Breastfed babies rarely become anemic. If you wait until later in the first year to start solids, you can avoid the expense of commercially prepared baby food, or the effort of pureeing your own table food.

An older baby, with a couple of teeth, can handle some food from your straight from your table, simply mash it with your fork, if necessary, add a little water. Avoid dairy, citrus fruits, honey, and eggs until he is about one year of age. Also avoid sugar and salt. Introduce one new food at a time, to be safe. Wait a few days to see how your baby handles it.

If you look for the signs of readiness for solids listed below, you can tell your doctor you are waiting for the baby to tell you he is ready, not going by what the date on the calendar is. Just as we say, for breastfeeding in the early months, "watch the baby, not the clock," so do we also recommend, at this stage, "watch the baby, not the calendar."

Solid foods are not recommended for infants until sometime around the middle of the first year. Prior to that time, an infant's digestive system is not mature enough to digest foods other than human milk adequately.

The American Academy of Pediatrics says, "babies don't need other foods in their diet until somewhere in the middle of the first year of life." This statement is very useful, because it doesn't say your baby needs other food at some specific age. You can let your baby be your guide. And babies will tell you when they are ready for solids, somewhere between 6 and 12 months.

Watch for these signs:

increased nursing that continues for more than a few days and is unrelated to illness or teething;
increased interest in table food while others are eating;
the ability to sit up; absence of the tongue-thrusting reflex so that baby does not push solids out of his mouth;
and an ability to pick up food and put it in his mouth.

Usually there is one meal a day when the family is together and the baby is on someone's lap, in an infant seat or in a high chair. And when you take a bite of food, the baby's eyes follow your fork from the time it leaves your plate until it's in your mouth with a look of, "how could you eat that without giving me some." Or if the baby is on someone's lap, he reaches for food on your plate, puts it in his mouth, and quickly does it again.

There is a time around three or four months when a baby gets really good at grabbing things (like the food off your plate or toys off the floor), but after it goes into the baby's mouth, he really isn't interested in eating it.

Another thing you may want to take notice of, is that your baby may think he/she is ready for solids, may be grabbing food off your plate, and enjoying the new taste. But later in the day, the baby may have an upset tummy, become constipated, or you may see the food come out in the diaper, in the same form as when it went in, completely undigested. Your milk is remains the perfect nutritious food for your baby, until his system is ready for table foods. If you've started solids, you can stop, and try again a few weeks later. Also keep in mind that four months is the bare minimum age at which your baby might be ready for a taste of solid food. It's much more common for a baby to be ready for solids later in his first year. If you are a first time mother, you may be eager to try it. Your own mother and friends may also be excited to help, or discuss it with you. You may be looking forward to meeting this new stage in your baby's life.

Some babies don't lose the tongue thrust instinct until much later, they may have a strong gag reflex, or they may have allergies, and refuse food instinctively. There's a chance your baby won't be ready for solids until eight or ten months, or even later. Rest assured that your milk is still meeting all your baby's nutritional needs at this time. Look at your baby. Is he well filled out, alert, active, healthy, growing? Congratulations! Your own breastmilk and good care is responsible for that. Smile

hope that helps

ps(hope I havent offended anyone whos started weaning-its different for eveyone, I weaned alex early, but regretted it so want to do baby led weaning if poss this time)

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novadandypowder · 13/03/2006 11:10

Thats really interesting BAM, as I've read that if you leave weaning a bit later it can cause problems with their eating/chewing ability.

I also read an article in Junior mag that made me think twice about baby led weaning, hence why I'm now going down the trad route. The purees were really easy to make - I just popped everything in the steamer then the hand blender, and I now have enough frozen to cover me for at least a month.

Natalie is also able to take the spoon and feed herself, which I let her do yesterday, although it will be easier once we get a highchair.

It'll take a while before food replaces her milk feeds though as we're going very slowly.

Rodeo · 13/03/2006 11:32

Morning all :)

Just a quickie as it Joe's 4th birthday today! He's just gone to a private Grin screening of Chicken Little so need to sort the house really. And he's got his party this afternoon at a local softplay centre - the easy option Beks!

Nova, awww, I hope Nat enjoys her little purees - Jess has been having them for just under a fortnight now and loves them. She's so happy afterwards! Although she does prefer the sweeter fruit ones rather than the veg! I'd also heard about probs from 6m+ weaning so that was in the back of my mind too. But they're all different and I think BAM, Bear, GO & Londoner are brill for holding off :)

LilJ - Well done on the surprise party!!

Right got to go, speak later x x x (Might join you on the weigh-ins later too)