June 2012 - Jubilant mums of Jubilee babies

[TeaandHobnobs]

It is Jubilee weekend - awaiting those babies!

Oh, kveta - you really seem to have been going through the mill, illness-wise! Hope you start to feel better soon. And fingers crossed for your friend's DS.

pleased you got a smile! I think DS is gearing up to it, but I'm trying not be too impatient! Who else is getting smiles now? How do you know for certain it's the real thing?!

shelduck I think the difference is that their eyes smile too. DD does quite a lot of smiles in the morning and her eyes seem to light up too She hasn't got total control of her smiles yet though, am really hoping they keep getting stronger.

DD is definitely smiling more with her eyes Mamma we bring her in with us when she wakes up in the morning and we have cuddles/tickling/chatting and when DH or I give her a big kiss with a smack of the lips after she smiles a cute little curl of the lip and her eyes just light up - it really is magic!!

My Noah started smiling at four weeks. I know everyone says it is wind but he is six weeks now and does it when talked and smiled at. I agree it is in the eyes too.
Saw the gp today as colic has been terrible. Cried for hours yesterday. I got lots of advice and suggestions on mn about what it coukd be but gp would not entertain cause said he may give gaviscon but wait for now. Also mildly berated me for saying I was breastfeeding but trying to get him to take a bottle as well! He sais why? I said so that occasionally I could have a break and he looked at me like I had two heads! Men.
At any rate Noah is not interested in bottle at all. It has been struggle enough with his feeding, not a good gaper or latcher but still nearly in three month clothes!
Ds1 Reuben adjusting well but I am still having guilt feelings that hE does not get enough attention. Does not help that dh and I are so tired and bickering. So much house work never ends does it! Don't know what I will do when I go back to work.

Well, after having the first decent night's sleep since DS was born, i woke up to find him awake and happy - popped my head over the side of the moses basket to say good morning, and got a lovely smile! Hooray! I told the hv i was trying not overinterpret smiles, but she was of the opinion that, as newborns don't give a great deal back, i should claim as many smiles as i could!

We've got DS a baby gym now and it's so brilliant watching him really take notice of the world around him and starting to interact with toys. When we give him tummy time, he's making an effort to crawl but just spins himself round, like a boat with only one oar! Pretty sure he has the full set of limbs though! No gimpy fins like nemo.

ginga what a stupid thing for your gp to say! Sounds like he understands the theory, but clearly has no idea what it's actually like to bf a baby, day in day out!

I really feel for you in terms of your guilt over whether or not you're giving DS1 enough attention. WARNING - INSENSITIVE COMPARISON ALERT. I'm feeling massively guilty over the fact that our poor timid ill elderly cat, who was much beloved, is now almost completely overlooked. Point being that if i feel that way about the cat, it must be so hard for those of you with DCs already. Or do you just manage to find a way?

Hope everyone is well.

Sorry - just read message back, and didn't want to imply anyone was actually overlooking older DCs - just that you may not be giving them as much attention as you'd like to be able to.

DD (2 weeks today) uses her "smile" muscles already, especially in the mornings. I'm aware it's totally involuntary at the moment but it's still beautiful! This morning she was beaming away at the dressing gowns on the bedroom door and then at my bedside lamp. They are clearly favoured items...! Apparently there is some new research that says if a little baby looks like it's smiling purposefully, it probably is.......

A smile is a smile and they are precious. And they just keep getting better week by week

V is a snot ball so there's not been much in the way of smiles from her, poor thing. However for the first time today she's breathing clearly while having a nap on me. Don't mind her sleeping on me today coz I know she's felt poorly

Wow this heat is mental. Next door have lent me a fan to try and stay cool!

just had my 6 week check - total waste of time.

90 minutes late into her consult room, then she said 'so what's wrong with baby then?' bearing in mind she had called me in by my name and title - no way is Em a Dr yet... then I said, no it's for my 6 week postnatal check, and she asked 'and how old is baby?' which got another look from me.

she was only interested in my mental state and trying to get me on the Mirena after I said no more hormones.

only good point was discussion on breastfeeding, she asked how it was going and how long I had fed my older child. when I said I stll am and he's nearly 3, but I'd like him to self wean soon, she said 'don't worry, they normally self wean by 4' so she clearly knew a bit about bfing.

anyway, I'm cleared for active duties with DH, which is just as well since we had a wee go of getting back in the saddle (so to speak) last week, and all seemed well!

Em is not enjoying this weather, just wants to feed constantly poor thing. hope it settles down soon, but maybe not back to 3 more months of torrential rain!

Oh dear Kveta, was the heat melting her brain perhaps?

What did you decide re contraception btw? Are you thinking copper coil?

I ended up having the injection at my appointment, but I don't think I want to be on it long term. I said I was considering the implant (hence she gave me the injection to "test" the hormone out), but now I'm not so sure about that either. Plus DH got all funny about me having something in my arm (maybe I shouldn't tell him I'm considering having something in my uterus instead!!).

I don't want to TTC #2 any time soon, but I feel a bit funny about taking hormones that might make it difficult when I do. I'm going to wait to have my smear (damnit, am due for it now as DS is 13 weeks) to see how I cope with having stuff up my wotsit again. Need to get back to those hypnobirthing exercises me thinks!

And am I the only one who hasn't dtd yet? I had my second counselling session yesterday, and after sex came up in the discussion, my counsellor told me I should have done it by the time we get to session 4 Erk

Kveta Totally nuts - agree with Tea maybe the heat had melted her brain! It bugs me when all they care about is your mental state - I understand they are trying their best to catch PND before it becomes too serious but IMO they are waaaaaay too interested in that and it eclipses (for most of us) the real issues/problems/questions we have! Glad you've been given the go ahead :) Have you decided on the copper coil?

I'm debating what contraception to use and am using the combined pill for the moment.. Now that DH and I have resumed normal service.. But not sure how it will affect me hormonally as it's a different pill than I was on before (which I got pregnant whilst taking)...

Tea Why does your DH get all funny about you having something in your arm? It doesn't have to go in his arm! Although I'm waiting for the day somebody invents something that does go in men for them to have to use bc. Also, you don't have to have done anything by session 4 - it might just be that from their experience that's the average of when women are comfortable with their journey - but don't do anything until you are absolutely ready!!

Xx

we're sticking with condoms for now, they've always worked for us.

tea there is no right time, just the right time for you. took us more than 4 months after DS, 5 weeks after DD - both the right time for us after each child.

too hot here.

Hi all

Shelduck no offence taken! DS is so loving with DD but sometimes i really think he will love her to death He'll lie across her to kiss her and has no concept of his weight or will climb behind me on the couch to see her feed or push my breast away and say "enough milk"or try push my nipple back in her mouth... and I have to be so careful not to get cross as this is all so loving and we have been blessed that he adores her but trying to feed with a toddler breathing over your shoulder is hard work

I have also developed skills I never knew I had - found myself drawing hearts/snails/cars,as requested, with my right hand (I am left handed) while breast feeding

Ginga how strange

Kveta you can call DD Dr Em always makes you feel reassured that they know what they're doing when they can't identify the patient... Does she not know that the Mirena is the hormone coated IUD???

I am just home from my 6 week check,called into the nurse - BP done,asked about contraception,given phone no for family planning service as I expressed interest in the Mirena or implant,Dr called in,he looked at my scar,said it was lovely and I left. No interest in my mental health or breast feeding or any questions really. Also told that her 1st vaccinations will be late as the practice nurse is on holiday,which irritated me...

Tea go easy on yourself.Of all of us you had the most psychologically traumatic birth as you had time in hospital,where no one knew what was causing the bleeds,you delivered early after almost being sent home and had a fair bit of time in hospital because of that,you took home a small baby and you have done amazingly!!! So if you haven't DTD,so what You'll find the time that is right for you!

we went to Freeport today (outlet mall in Essex) and tried a meal out with toddler and newborn - won't be doing that again in a hurry, DS was refusing to eat anything, Em wouldn't feed properly, and I not only ended up flashing several folk, but also leaked all over my top, so looked absurd.

hope everyone enjoyed the Olympic opening ceremony last night!!

Kveta, at my post natal check dr was also just obsessed with mental state and the pill. Especially as I hav history of mental illness. It s really frustrating how they obsess about it. I must admit to feelings of anxiety and some tearfulness since birth but I would not tell them now since gps are being instructed to be concerned about new mothers. I expect they would overreact and since I have no intention of taking antidepressants whilst bf and ont have a chance to talk to anyone what would be th point!
Shelduck no offence taken!
Ds2 has a little cough and tonight his eye swelled up then went down? Gave me such a fright. Ds1 has an iffy tummy ll day. When do I get o switch off? Never! Dh happily sleeping but poor ds2 snuffling and squirming away.

Hi everyone!

I'm a little late on here but I'd like to tell you all I had my first baby on 6th of July, a little boy, 6 pound 8.

Me and my Dp are totally besotted with him, I didn't know love like this existed!!

I'm BF and he is doing really well, only losing 2 ounces at the first weighing and putting on 11 ounces on the second. :)

Totally loving being a mum!

Congratulations to everyone else too!

Oh I've just gate crashed the wrong thread!! I thought it was for July babies........sorry........sleep deprevation and baby brain.......!

(leaving out of side exit.......)

Morning.

Sorry I don't ever post in here. I'm always on Facebook

We've had a rubbish night. DDs nose is all blocked up so she's not breathing very well unless sat upright. So we've been taking it in turns to sit with her.

I have my 6 week check on Wednesday. I'm hoping to get the mini pill. I don't know if we'll have more children but I'm not keen on implants and stuff.

Hi all

Sorry I haven't been on here much but having a quiet moment so catching up on the posts. Kveta that's so sad about your friend.... Really hope the little one is ok.

ffnorm my brother has 3 year old twins and one of them spent time on a ventilator and he's fine too so infers crossed for your friend.

tea how is the counselling going? Do you find it useful? While I wouldn't recommend Dtd until you feel ready I think it's easy to worry about it and make it seem a bigger deal than it is. I was worried too but am totally fine now. I've had my period too so have been using tampons. When you do it for the first time use lots of lubricant and have a big glass of wine. You'll probably feel relieved.

On the contraception front we are just being careful and using the natural method at the minute. I really don't want to mess with hormones after taking so long to get pregnant the first time and we both hate condoms. To be honest ds is probably the best method f contraception!

We put ds in his cot for the first time last night. He has outgrown his Moses basket. He was up twice but settled really quickly afterwards and slept until 9am. I stayed in the nursery with him and am going to do that for the next few nights.... More for me than him as I'm sure he'd be fine!

We are getting lots of smiles and gurgles too! Love it when his eyes light up!

Hi to everyone and hope you are getting lots of sleep!

My dh is being rather amorous of the evenings nowadays too.... DD is not quite three weeks yet and although I didn't have any stitches or anything I don't feel quite up to dtd yet! I also think I may have thrush down there... having just got rid of it from my breasts. Brilliant. Is it normal to be itchy while everything is healing or should I treat it as thrush do you think?

DD is not sleeping unless she's on me today which just makes us both tired

Thank you ffnorm for your lovely words

gwennie hope the pain of feeding has gone away / reduced now? Could be thrush down there too I didn't get any itchy feelings as I was healing anyway

Speaking of itchy, I burnt my belly with the iron last week and now the scar is itching like mad! Any suggestions? Or just grit my teeth?

Warlin I've had two sessions now, and the 2nd one was a bit better than the first. Not really liking it though - I've got back to feeling pretty normal day to day, and most of the time I can think / talk about my experience without breaking down (thought I still have the odd wobble), but counselling makes me feel really fragile, like there's a whole bunch of stuff, not necessarily related to this experience, which is damned up behind some floodgates waiting to burst through. I'm such a 'stick my head in the sand' type person though, so i dont really like this whole 'addressing the problem' thing - although i think it has demonstrated that I really ought to have seen someone when I've had depressive episodes in the past! I've got fortnightly sessions for the next month and a bit, so I'll see how they go.

Kveta sorry the meal out was such a hassle! How is DS coping with his baby sister's arrival now?

I love the Olympics - today I've watched rowing, canoe slalom, eventing cross-country and, my favourites, men's synchronised diving and men's gymnastics . I love it when there's a close finish - the women's cycling yesterday was nail biting at the end!

Attempted baby clinic today - I arrived 5 mins before the start time, and they were already up to 28 in the queue! Does my nut - I don't want to spend all afternoon in a stuffy room just to get him weighed! I will have to suck it up and make sure I get there super early next Tuesday such a waste of time

Kveta I thought I was feeding discreetly in Nando's last week until I realised I was sitting at the window

Gwennie did you take Fluconazole tablets for your thrush? If So it would treat thrush in all parts of your body. Also,do you have the classic thrush discharge,if not it's probably things sorting themselves out but no harm in treating it if you think it's thrush.

My friends twins are great and home - so pleased for them!!

Ginga hope your DS's are better soon!

Sorry Tea as I started typing 4 hours ago but only posted now,I missed your post. Wasn't the synchronised diving amazing!! Wish I had the guts to jump off the high diving board let alone dive backwards/twist/somersault etc

My experience of all the weighing clinics is the same,so frustrating...

Hey gals,

Thanks ffnorm. Ds1 went to nursery today but still complaining about tummy (sad) and ds2 eye slews swollen however now has yellow funky discharge.
Tea DDT really is ok, it takes on mammoth proportions in your head but the physicality is not as scary. I used lubricant and warmed up loads and was ok, really nice actually.
I shoul be asleep as ds2 is so will try again. Trying hard to put himback in us basket and not co sleep as so tired even though most nights we end up in bed together.

Ginga I hope DS1 and DS2 are feeling a bit better now?

We went to the sling library today as DS has been screaming every time I try and put him in it and I wanted some help to figure out why (it's a stretchy wrap). Turns out he was holding his legs ramrod straight as I put him in, so was being suspended by a very small width over his crotch - no wonder it hurt! As soon as we adjusted his legs into an M shape and he was being supported over a wider area, he was so much happier! Success!

He did a massive poosplosion while we were there, though - all up his back. Very messy. Where would I be without presoaking with vanish?!

BCG passed without too much fuss today. Really hoping for a better night tonight - my stamina for sleep deprivation is definitely wearing out...