June 2012 - Jubilant mums of Jubilee babies

[TeaandHobnobs]

It is Jubilee weekend - awaiting those babies!

Morning all! When do they stop feeding for 5 hours plus with only tiny breaks between??!! (he's 25 days old today).

Sorry I've been absent! No Wifi since Thurs... Sky eventually decided they fried our router while sending an update ( have no idea what that means) so when I have my laptop up and running again, I'll be more "around" as I find MN very frustrating on my phone

Hope everyone is ok

hi all... Fireflies i have had big bouts of constant feeding 6 or 7 hours of it crazy.. Seem to be on a more spaced out plan at the mo.
Does anyone bed share? summer keeps rolling on her side and i'm worried she might face plant on foam mattress....?

kveta how is your poorly ear?

Glad I'm not the only one. Yesterday was pretty much constant in the end. Today though, Daddy's at home to witness how difficult it is, and of course he's been sleeping like an angel, prob just to spite me for going on a several hour shopping trip without him!!

I do a bit of bedsharing and have the same worry. Have a BabyBay cot, so Little Firefly has a snuggle and feed on our bed for the 4am feed. We both snooze through it and I usually wake with him curled on on his side next to me. Only return him back to his bit when I'm awake enough.

Thanks for asking surf, ear less sore but totally deaf in it now, it is a strange sensation! Plus side is not hearing DS tantrumming.

We bed share will write more when on computer tomorrow.

Sleep well june babies!

Hello all. I have finally started to properly bond with ds2 at five weeks. No longer feeling as guilty as I was about ds1.
After three days trying to get hospital to redo bloods as jaundice was not clearing ended up in a and e Friday but bloods good so not worried now.
Had my postnatal check today and came straight home for a bit of nooky, had been so long!
Think I am getting us to the no sleep thing now.
Did bit of exercise but my body had forgotten how!

Ooh... am supposed to be using this time to ebluey my brother but been sidetracked of course

BabyBee is a week old today... can't believe it. She's totally gorgeous and I'm in love completely. It's haaaard though, isn't it?! I spend much of time crying tears of total overwhelming don't know where to put myself love for her, or agonising pain when she's feeding, or despair when she's crying and I can't make it better. I think we were introduced to the cluster feed last night Not great when each feed is a real mental effort from me too to get over the pain. We're still having problems with the latch and I'm bleeding so much we need one muzzy for her and one for me to stain pink.... :( Getting a fair bit of support though and she does have a tongue tie so at least we know that might be a cause to investigate further if it doesn't get better with a better latch.

She's sleeping quite well at night though..........! Famous last words.......

kveta glad to hear your ear is clearing up. I went deaf in one ear from an infection a couple of years back. It lasted about a month and changed my relationship with dad entirely as I realised what it's actually like genuinely not to hear on one side!!

ginga I'm impressed with the exercise! We had our first outing yesterday and walked about a mile.... I was sore and slow!! Pelvic floor is about as energetic as i am getting...

Gwen Know what you mean about the all-consuming love that we have for them!!

Well I have been to the Dr and he has ok'd all my exercise and fitness to re-commence literally could not be happier!! Have been going a bit stir-crazy not being 'allowed' to do any of my activities.. Will literally be zooming to the pool tomorrow morning before DH goes to work to get back on it!! Not going to start back with my rowing for a week or so, just build myself up with swimming, really glad everything is early morning though swimming is 6am-7am and rowing is 5am-630am so as long as DH isn't leaving before 7am I'll be able to do most mornings :)

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

I think there's too much defection to fb going on

After coming out of the initial 6 week hell, I've been starting to feel pretty confident lately - but now doubts are starting to creep in...

I don't know if I am interacting enough with him - is that why he hasn't smiled for me yet? Why doesn't he make eye contact with me?

I don't know how to play with him - he looks around and stuff, but doesn't really react to anything I do or toys and things. I know I should sing to him, but I feel like such a willy and can't think of anything to sing (despite being a trained singer, you'd think I'd have a million things to choose from!).

I know I'm supposed to use nappy change time as a chance to interact, but he hates it so much he screams all the way through, so it seems pointless

Can anyone give me ideas of good things to do to interact with a one month old?

aww tea you're fine. he's just very new still!

have you read What Mothers Do? I am halfway through it and it makes me feel much more confident about my parenting.

re: interacting, you are holding him a lot - that's interaction; feeding him; chatting to him? for singing, just try any nursery rhymes, or songs you like - it's your voice he will like, not the words or meaning of the song. twinkle twinkle little star and incy wincy spider are easy ones to start with.

playing with a 1 month old is not very rewarding, just letting him be near you for now is enough. by about 6-8 weeks (corrected for you) smiles start to appear - Em is still only smiling in her sleep, albeit with open eyes sometimes (creepy child), although we get wee glimmers of a smile from time to time. I often have her sitting in the room I'm in, in her swing chair, so she can see me cooking or washing up, or (poor child) on the loo, so she knows where I am. all very thrilling for a new baby :o

Aw tea. kveta has good ideas. At this age they really don't need much so don't feel guilty. All they want is cuddles and to hear your voice. I occasionally talk to Oscar as if he can understand me as I like to think we never really know how much they understand and even if he doesn't understand he will enjoy the sound of my voice. I sing to him occasionally but just normal songs like mr sandman for eg

You really font get a lot back from them at this age and it can feel like you out an awful lot in and then nothing happens. They really start to get a personality soon though and it is magical
Trust me, once he's a toddler there will be plenty opportunities to interact, in fact you'll be asking him to leave you alone and give you a minutes peace from all the questions and requests

You really don't get a lot back
It can feel like you put an awful lot in

tea I got a cd of nursery rhymes to sing along to, plus a lovely lullaby cd. Also book called Clever Baby if you're really stuck. Colic o'clock here so can't post more at mo. where are earplugs??

Tea don't feel a willy! I'm giving Mima all sorts of bizarre things that aren't baby orientated particularly.... although Hushabye Mountain and Golden Slumbers are favourites. We've also had a fair selection of traditional folk songs - My Love's An Arbutus, O Waly Waly, Jonnie Cope, Can Ye Sew Cushions... etc etc. Anything from the New English Hymnal, a bit of Parry.... and mummy pretending she's Ella Fitzgerald at points too. All very thrilling for her I'm sure!

We're pretty knackered here. Still really struggling with terrible pain when bfing, went to doc this afternoon as midwife says it's deep-rooted thrush, doc says it's highly unlikely and has prescribed cream for me and suspension for J but I don't hold out much hope for it working as there isn't really any soreness on my breasts that seems to be thrush related. The soreness externally is because my nipples are still terribly chapped and sore, but the internal pain is like a tugging/burning sensation, mainly on the underside on the arm side of the breast. They're so sore all over it's getting hard to distinguish individual pain. I am trying to use just one and express from the other for 12hrs to give each one a break. We have our ten day check tomorrow at the clinic but fortunately my usual midwife is on duty so we can make sure we see someone familiar (and not have yet more conflicting advice!).

Sending sleepy vibes to all babies.... I certainly don't need any more sleepy vibes myself but J could definitely do with some!

Tea I am in a band but still struggle with what to sing. Weirdly it was edelweiss with ds1 and it is kumbya with ds2 . No idea why!
Blondie i am soooo jealous. I have only been able to exercise when ds1 in bed and ds2 napping. Dh is back going to Kung Fu and tai chi! Ds2 will not take a bottle, I can't get him to latch. Dh, mil and dm have all tried but he just plays, no idea what to do. I am supposed to be doing a race in oct and was pretty addicted to running prior to pregnancy but have not had an opportunity to go as ds2 has no pattern yet. Today he fed more or less every hour or less in morning and afternoon. He has colic too. And we had a bad night last night.
I must admit I felt a but crazy today. Went on steam train for ds1 but ds2 was so miserable at times and I just wanted to sleep. Ds1 had such a good time though.
Dh on my case about decluttering as trying to sell house.
Know I should be asleep now!

Ginga I seem to have had certain songs for each of my boys yet have no idea why! Ds1 was Moonshadow by Cat Stevens, ds2 was Mr Sandman (although still song that now sometimes) and this time it's mostly Dream a little dream by The Mammas and Papas

Gwennie I think you are an absolute champ for carrying on despite being in such horrible pain - I really really hope it resolves soon and things settle down.

Thank you for the support - I sang him a couple of nursery rhymes and hymns (thanks for the idea gwennie - I even sang Jerusalem to him! ) last night.

DH reckons he smiled last night/this morning, but I'm not totally convinced yet - I think he is definitely on the cusp though!

I will have a look for that book Kveta, thanks

Hope you are all going to get some SUN this week! Yay!

Hi tea. I dont do much singing but do a lot of chatting with V. When she's contented and locks into me I do a lot of talking and look straight into her eyes. Say the same things over and over again. Do lots of faces, mouth open, tongue out, big smiles and she seems to enjoy just watching me do it. Do it very close to her face. She's not interested in toys yet, LOVES curtains. We talk about the curtains a lot and go look/touch them often. On the change mat she used to scream like crazy (still does sometimes). We turn the radio on for day time nappy changes. It's a distraction and she likes the music. We have some nappy free time every change (5mins?) and I do lots of jumping about, chatting, faces. Caught DP doing a full on dance routine yesterday. She couldn't stop looking at him basically raving to some radio 1 Friday night dance anthem!!!! Then nappy goes on and we cuddle and look at some things in her room. She has a tree wall sticker so we look at the acorns and leaves. It's all a lot of repetition but I suppose it makes her feel safe and ok about things if they always happen. The smiles here happen in the mornings when she's woken and laying on the bed while we're getting ready. Just lots of chatting and laughing and both of us giving her loads of attention. She doesn't smile much during the day yet.

Oh and with singing, DP does singing and the songs are all made up. Latest is when she's grumpy DP sings about her being a "moaning minnie" . I should learn some nursery rhymes....

Your bubs is still little isn't he. He'll be loving you just being there and cuddling and feeding and hearing your voice. They are the most important things x

Hi all

Tea you are probably doing more than you realise and they don't need stimulation 24/7.

Mama my DH's also sings made up songs

Who has been for their 6 week check? I'm so fascinated by the difference in people's experiences... Mine is on Friday coming,at my check post DS,I could have sent my neighbour,didn't look at me,do BP,take blood,only asked how I was,was a little anyone else had this? Couldn't decide if this was more negligent as I had been in hospital 2 weeks prior with retained products or whether the GP felt I had been seen recently by a Gynae team,so was sure I had been well assessed. I wait in fascination,to see what Friday brings (different GP practice)

Ginga I suppose it depends on how desperate you are to get DS to take the bottle,have you tried different teats,or getting DH/MIL to try syringe/cup feeding 1st so he gets used to milk coming from another source and then try the bottle? I know with friends experiences that perseverance pays off eventually...

I posted on the FB pg about my friend who was having twins by section on Wednesday (they brought her date forward due to pre eclampsia) just found out that the one twin is quite unwell with respiratory distress and is ventilated,so feeling really sad that we are so far away during this difficult time

hello all..ffnorm sorry to hear about the wee twin, keep us posted?
gwennie me too bloody agony. a cross between razor blades and burning here. thought it was normal ..stupidly.. until i spoke to others and looked it up on internet. have taken homeopathic remedy only yesterday, have everything crossed it works, hate doctors, so going to try some other things first. next on list is citricidal, you could look this up, then gentian violet as last resort. also eating garlic - lovely - and taking pro biotic. how can we have thrush in boob but not down there? makes no sense to me... hope you get better soon.
tea i had to look up nursery rhymes

have a very spotty girl today, what a state we are in here - spots and thrush, nice.

I had to look up the words to "Danny Boy" for DS and then first time i sang it to him, i made myself bawl. I also sing "2-4-6-8 Motorway". But nothing ever does the trick as well as Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and Row Row Row Your Boat. Worth persevering with, because it's one of the few things i have in my armoury for calming DS down. I think singing nursery rhymes might be my one truly primal maternal instinct, because during painful and distresing induction, took first drag of gas-and-air, and despite being frightened, alone, angry at evil mw and in massive pain, i immediately started humming Incy Wincy Spider and grinning like an idiot. So i suppose it's sort of "our" song, because it reminds mummy of when she was bombed off her head on Entonox lightweight.

Hugs to everyone.

Tea I just do heaps of cuddles with my DS, he seems particularly intent on me if I wear stripy tops!
I also spend a lot of time pulling faces at him, keeps us both entertained!

Ffnorm - fingers crossed here for your friends and their twins.
I need my gp to check everything is where it should be at my 6 week appointment as I suspect I may have a mild prolapse of my cervix, its not bothering me but things are def not where they used to be! Doing heaps of pelvic floor to see if that makes a difference. Joy.

Surf Hope you can clear the thrush homeopathically,I have a friend who swears by gentian violet Try to air your boobs as much as you can (I realise this is easier said than done) because thrush loves a warm moist environment.
Shelduck that's so sweet about Incy Wincy!

I have my 6 week appt this thursday ffnorm will happily compare notes! hope your friend's twin is ok - my friend had twins 3 years ago, and one spent a few days on a ventilator, but is totally normal and healthy now.

oh, and my friend who had her wee boy in may, who I posted about when we were all still massively pg? he is not doing so great. managed a few days at home but is back in hospital, hooked up to various machines. they think he has a chromosomal anomaly of some kind, but an incredibly rare one. currently just hoping for some quality of life.

I have gone down with a head cold this weekend, so totally bunged up, not helping the ear much. I remember having virtually no immunity to anything after DS was born too, but it's no fun when you can't take mind altering quantities of lemsip :(

and Emilie gave me a full on proper beam this morning, utterly adorable! I may have cried here's hoping for many many more of them!!