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LittleMissFlustered · 25/05/2012 19:40

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KateM77 · 05/06/2012 09:49

hawthers I know what you mean. I have times like that, and it's definitely linked to sleep or lack of it. When I had my most recent meltdown it really helped me to talk it through with DH, and to have a good cry! Nothing in particular changed, but it did make me feel a bit better. And as you say, the mood really improves when LO treats you to a better night or two.

aethel / itsy I have now officially thrown in the towel on the bottles for the time being after throwing the bottle out the door and across the garden in frustration yesterday. I'll carry on with the purees each day, and once he's getting the hang of that I'll try again with the bottles. It seems it's all going to take DS longer than it did DD, who loved her food from the off. Tried apple on DS yesterday and he pulled a similarly appalled face as he did for baby rice, and pushed it all back out with his tongue. Pear today...

figgy as mothers we are programmed to worry about how much our kids eat and sleep, whether it's too much or too little. DS has also been eating less than usual in recent weeks (although difficult for me to tell exactly as I'm BFing). He's dropped down percentiles, but is still gaining weight, still well above average weight and still a happy little chappy so I'm trying not to be too concerned at this stage. Easier said than done though, I know!

We're off to a street party at my Mum's later. It's where I grew up and there will be others there who I knew as a child and who are now bringing their own children. Shame the weather looks a bit rubbish, but perhaps our blue from the cold lips etc. can add to the red, white and bluw theme?

OiMissus · 05/06/2012 10:59

BOi thinks that sleep is for girls. He has the odd cat nap during the day, and often doesn't go down until 9pm. He wakes 3-4 times for a feed from then before my 5:45 alarm (during the week). I don't post as it wakes me up more.
We don't have a routine really.
He does take a bottle though.
He doesn't like the purees. But does like to play with food himself.(blw) though he doesn't actually eat much.
What formula is recommended to get him to sleep better? Please! :)

NorthernChinchilla · 05/06/2012 11:04

Well, we had fun yesterday going out for a meal and taking DS with us. He fell asleep in my arms in Pizza Express, and was generally good as gold. DP and I settled down later on to watch 'Let the Right One In' and got half way through 'Alien'.

As long as he's taking some food/liquid figgy, and is alert, I wouldn't worry too much. How's he been today, and did he completely rock in his Union Jack suit Grin? If he's still off it tomorrow perhaps a trip to the Doc's?

I remember you saying that sleep was the magic dust you needed to feel like a happy parent hawthers- is there any way your DH can do at least one full night shift for the kids at the weekend, just so you can get some uninterrupted kip? Even if you need to send DS1 to the GPs (don't know if that's possible?)

Have just bagged up the 11 portions of tomato sauce, and will get on with the minestrone and pasta bakes whilst DP goes to B&Q to get a bathroom light, oh the domesticity!! DS is just generally being chubby and adorable and currently asleep Smile

NorthernChinchilla · 05/06/2012 11:10

Oh, and whilst a big treat for me of a weekend is to give DS his first bf whilst we lie in bed together, I forget what a wriggler he is no change from when he was in utero and today got his big toe wedged in my belly button Wink

OiMissus · 05/06/2012 11:31

Correction: BOi does sleep during the day but only whilst feeding. Angry

OiMissus · 05/06/2012 11:32

If I can get him off the boob, we'll be off to the pub and on with the hog roast this afternoon. Jubilee party. And there is promise of victoria sponge. Grin

MissRee · 05/06/2012 11:45

Hog roast? Envy

DeterminedandSpecialMum · 05/06/2012 12:42

Well Sky loves Annabel Karmel Chicken & Vegetable Rice Cakes Grin

aethelfleda · 05/06/2012 14:45

DS took a few spoons of butternut squash today and then wailed (I really think he doesn't like the angle of his highchair) so I pulled him out, sat him on my hip, and started eating my coronation chicken wrap (jubilee-tastic!)... dS then promptly lunged for it. I decided to reload the spoon with squash..and he grabbed the spoon end and sank the lot . I reloaded, he ate: more solids in one meal than in the last week!!! I think this one will be a self-feeder...

DeterminedandSpecialMum · 05/06/2012 15:59

Sorry for the upcoming me me me post - feel so tired it's making me nauseous Sad

On a plus side we have brought our wedding rings today Smile

BeeMyBaby · 05/06/2012 16:23

for those who are potty training a child around 3 years (or for children who are capable or understanding concepts well), I have a busy toddler book which suggested making a 'face' for the potty/toilet and then getting your child to 'feed' the toilet. It sounded entertaining at least....

DD2 has made some small attempts at bottom shuffling although seems to be getting carpet burn.

Also for those truing to get away from BFing, maybe you could skip the bottle stage? DD2 had a go at drinking water from DD1s straw nuby cups today and although mostly just ended up wet, she seemed to kind of get the idea, although had been bamboozled by the standard sippy cups.

NorthernChinchilla · 05/06/2012 17:32

We found Oi that DS would only originally take about 120 from a bottle (whicg is what he gets from a bf), as he was doing the 'little and often' breast-feeding, about 10 times in 24 hours. But DS seemed to take more from each bottle feed as I dropped a bf, and then night-weaned himself, which in turn made him take more from the bottle in the day. Virtuous circle really, but can't say we actually actively did anything. So four bfs and three formula bottles per day, and using Aptamil. Did you enjoy the hog roast?

Glad your DS has taken to the squash puree so enthusiastically aethel, I thought you were going to say he'd eaten the wrap...

Hope you get some sleep DSM, that sounds grim.

Soup is made and pasta bake is ready to be assembled!

msbuggywinkle · 05/06/2012 17:53

Hello! Back from lovely camping.

T'was wet, but we had a wood burning stove in the marquee. There was wine, feral children, knitting and talking around the camp fire until 1am. I am tired but so very relaxed!

Jubilee successfully avoided Grin

Figgygal · 05/06/2012 18:41

oi live the pic of boi on fb Danny is jealous of his suit, he thought his was cool.

Any suggestions for how I can make figgyboy do tummy time he's rolled over before I even let him go. I'm not worried about strengthening his neck he can hold it fine and sits for a few mins on his own but he won't be strengthening arm muscles/crawling if he won't lie on his front.

GeeandTee · 05/06/2012 19:44

Haven't posted much recently but just wanted to say we're still not sleeping through yet! Last night I had to resettle DD at 12.30, feed at 2.30, settle at 3.30 and 4.30, feed at 5, DS then woke up screaming at 5.45 just as I had got back to sleep, then DD fed again at 7.

Have started on purees as I did try blw but as soon as she got anything in her mouth she was immediately sick. And I mean brought up her entire previous milk feed. So am starting with purees and then moving onto to finger food as soon as she's ready. She doesn't take very much but so far has had a couple of spoons each of apple, pear, apricot, avocado, sweet potato.

She is really close to sitting unsupported now and when she's on her tummy she's started making crawling movements but not getting anywhere. But she still hasn't rolled!! Should I be worried? She rolls onto her side all the time but hasn't managed to get all the way over. She's a big girl though at 19lbs so maybe that has something to do with it?!

hawthers sorry you're feeling rubbish. Sleep deprivation is SO tough it just colours everything else in life. Hopefully it is just a short phase and you'll start feeling better soon. But I agree with everyone else who said try and get some support from DH/friends/family and at least get a lie in or afternoon nap at weekends if you can.

aethelfleda · 05/06/2012 20:00

Hee hee northern, I think he'd have tried the wrap if he could have reached it! Babies are so step-wise with stuff like this, they just DO something all of a sudden...

Very little got done today, but we've had pancakes (DD2 helped me mix them) and there is rhubarb crumble cooling on the rack for later. Does anyone else do veggies? I'm too lazy busy for an allotment but we have a veggie patch at the bottom of the garden that I do small-scale growing, I find it relaxing and it's great for the kids.

MissRee · 05/06/2012 21:17

I had to share this, it makes my heart melt! He changed her then wanted to give her a bottle...

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MissRee · 05/06/2012 21:17

Oh balls...

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aethelfleda · 05/06/2012 23:53
MissRee · 05/06/2012 23:59
hawthers · 06/06/2012 01:45

Can I have some too?

aethelfleda · 06/06/2012 02:19
hawthers · 06/06/2012 02:21

Shit, literally just poured a bottle of calpol over the floor - why did I just up end it why?

DeterminedandSpecialMum · 06/06/2012 06:52

Morning Ladies,

Another longish night here. Sky was awake 00:10, 2:30, 5:35 - last 2 were purely because she had rolled over and got annoyed. Sad shattered.com

OiMissus · 06/06/2012 08:16

shattered.com here too.
We've all got sore throats, so every time one of us coughed in the night, BOi woke and needed to be reassured. He fed quite a few times, but mainly he just needed to be calmed. Yawn.
The drive here was horrid, I am so tired.
I could sleep on my desk.
Caffeine over here, please MissRee.
The jubilee party was quite good. It rained unfortunately, but that didn't affect the hog roast or the victoria sponge cake. Most delicious. And the bottle of vino was also very nice. I took Aptamil with me, he had 80ml at first, from DH, but then wouldn't take it after that, he kept reaching out for me. He's a clever lad.