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Bodeccia · 15/05/2012 11:07

Hello fellow May mums. Let's follow on from our lovely ante-natal threads, here's the first of the post-natal ones. Join us as we work out how to handle nappies, feeding, colic, crying and all things newborn, or just to celebrate the joys of a new baby!

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SirCharles · 15/06/2012 01:04

sorry I have not caught up for a while but have been struggling..... see this thread where I am looking for support/shared experience.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/1495666-3-weeks-in-and-still-suffering-please-share-experience-re-any-of-these-issues-domperidone-fenugreek-baby-failing-to-gain-weight-thyroid-issues-posterior-tongue-tie-Thrush

I will catch up soon but in the meantime I hope everyone is doing well. My little Teddy is absolutely gorgeous which makes up for the frustrations I have with BF and his weight! I swear if my DH & I had not been so committed to BF I would have given up by now because of the HPs attitudes and lack of support. Hope everyone else is doing better than us!

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tostaky · 15/06/2012 14:33

SirCharles - i hope things will get better soon for you...

Cupcake - i did drink two glasses of red wine while bf DS2 thinking it would be fine... i went home and woke up with a terrible headache in the morning. I did breastfed Ds2 in the night though, he must have been around 4-5 months... he didnt seem to have any impacts however, just to be n the safe side, i would nt recommend doing it... i have done it once and feel really guilty about it and will not do it again... i do have a sip of my DP's wine on occasions, i also drink Becks Blue at home (alcohol free beer) but thats about it...

Bedtime - so envious of those who make they lo sleeping at 8pm... without crying!!! For me, the crying starts around 7 and end around 9pm... The days the nanny or DP are here are ok but when im on my own with the three of them, it is a nightmare...
Also DS1 and DS2 seems to start getting not jealous but ... sad? that i dont spend more time with them....
ive decided to reduce DS2 days at nursery from 3 to 2 from 1st of July to make up for it... Not sure what to do about DS1... i would like to have more special time with him too but i dont know how to jiggle his nursery days to make it work

Eating - im eating chocolate, chocolate and cake.... really bad... because then, i'll skip lunch or dinner to make up for it. i do take vitamins but still... my aim next week is to eat better

Have a great fathers days on sunday everybody :)

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cupcakefairy · 15/06/2012 14:46

Thanks tostaky I am a major lightweight so wouldn't normally have more than 2 drinks but had hoped to enjoy a cocktail at the hen do, esp as it's a prepaid bar that I've already contributed to Grin might have to just be virgin ones!
My ds gets a bit sad too it's really hard isn't it! He'll ask me to play on the floor & if I can't cos I'm feeding ds2 he just accepts it with a sad look :( I try to play with him properly while ds2 sleeps to make up for it but I'm so tired it's really hard not to just turn tv on!

sircharles so sorry to hear of your problems hope u get some good advice..massive well done on persevering!

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Bodeccia · 15/06/2012 15:44

Afternoon ladies

Harecare I'm really glad you and DP managed to sort things out. I'm also super impressed at your active day - wowsers!

littlesarah: long may good sleeping patterns continue :)

cupcake I read this article and this article about drinking alcohol when breastfeeding. They basically say that it is fine, express milk beforehand to give to the baby when you're on the lash Grin, don't feed the baby straight afterwards. But I would agree with tostaky - it would probably be fine for LO but not great for you IYSWIM. If your hen night is a couple of weeks away, your LO will be stronger then too.

sircharles what a nightmare for you. I'm glad you posted on the breastfeeding/bottle feeding forum. They're a great source of help on there. Hang on in there, I'm sure things will work themselves out. Can't be easy for you ((( sircharles )))

tostaky hmmm... not very happy to hear you're skipping meals You'll lose the weight, you've only just had your LO for a couple of weeks, don't put too much pressure on yourself. I think the reason you're reaching for the chocolate and cake is because you've got 3 kids to look after, you've got to have something to get you through the day :)

Having said that, I have had A for 4 weeks now, and I'm wondering when I should be thinking about making the effort to lose the weight. I have another couple of weeks until my 6 week check up, and I have needed to be careful having had a CS. I'll probably get some kind of action plan sorted then.

Cool, another 2 weeks to stuff my face not worry about the old weight loss Grin

Biscuit anyone?

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Catsycat · 15/06/2012 16:36

Glad to see everyone is still doing OK.

harecare I'm glad you and DP are moving forward, and impressed at your energy!

tostaky & Bodeccia, I'm also not winning any prizes for my diet at the moment! Having said that, I'm back in my pre-pg jeans, but as they are a size 18 I'm not sure that is anything to be proud of. Will definitely have a Biscuit since you're offering!!!

Glad some of you are getting longer bits of sleep now. I'm really hoping to soon! Zuleika did 6 hours between feeds last night, but wouldn't settle for the first two hours of that time, which seemed like a waste! She seems to go longer between feeds in the morning, and settle quite well in her crib or moses basket, or the buggy, then in the afternoon and evening she feeds loads and is harder to settle, and wants to be held all the time (OK unless I need to cook tea/ wipe DD2's bottom / do baths / bedtime). She is generally going 4 hours between feeds at night, which is not too bad if we can get her to sleep quickly after a feed. Her sisters quite quickly went to 6 hours between feeds at night as a regular thing, so I'm hoping she will follow suit...

It was DH's first week back at work this week, and he was away monday and tuesday night. I had about 2-3 hours sleep each night, so am exhausted now. DD2 had all her teddies confiscated on monday night, as she sneaked out of bed and poured an entire brand new bottle of lovely organic baby oil over our landing carpet, followed by a bottle of water (both taken from my bedroom). She also took DD1's inhaler apart and stuffed the bits into her spacer (fortunately it still works), and various other naughty things. I didn't discover this until 1.30am, at which point I had to try to clean the oil out of the carpet (you can still see it though Angry).

Have been to the GP this morning to see if I can drive next week, which he said would be OK :) but he also noticed my uterus hasn't contracted, so has been on the phone to gynae at the hospital, and now I have to go to Warwick next wednesday to see the consultant. Tried to persuade him that it was because I'm old and have had 3 CS, but he didn't seem convinced!!! Not sure what this means - any ideas anyone???

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tostaky · 16/06/2012 13:35

DP, Ds2 an Ds3 are all asleep!!! Just me and Ds1... Bliss!!

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MrsHoarder · 17/06/2012 10:58

We're doing well: last night DS was (sort of) awake when I put him down in his moses basket and hr went t sleep in there (I think.I also think I was asleep first!) We're settling into a bit of a routine and being able to wear my (bloaty days) pre-pregnancy jeans has ilfted my spirits no end.

Agree on the not skipping meals though: you and baby need the protein and fat, not just carbohydrates. If you feel that guilty about cakes (I don't: I'm getting through a pack of biscuits in 2 days) go for a walk.

Been having the occasional small drink too, half a glass of wine or similar. Even that little bit means I need to up my water intake though. But I need t be carefull about that as the GP has me on a fibre drink to try and clear things up at the other end! Sometimes motherhoodis so glamorous! Wink

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Catsycat · 17/06/2012 17:23

MrsHoarder I'm so with you on the glamour thing!!!! Glad the sleep / routine seems to be going well. :)

tostaky that was me an hour ago! DH, DD2 and Zuleika were all asleep, and DD1 finally got to make the cupcakes from her Ben and Holly annual. They have just cooled and been tasted, and she said "I had one bite, but I don't like it!!!". But we had fun making them Grin.

Things seem to be improving here too :) Z is easier to settle at the moment, and managed to soothe herself back to sleep very quickly this afternoon when she woke up mid-cupcake-cooking with DD1! The secret seems to be infacol - I'm most surprised as it didn't really work on DD2, and DD1 never needed it. She also seems to be feeding for shorter periods of time, rather than the mammoth 2 hour feeds!

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goodname · 17/06/2012 19:27

Hi all, sorry not been on for ages, I have been reading but not posting as I always seems to be rocking or feeding the baby when I am online. This baby is just a bit too fidgety to get away with typing at the same time.
We have been having some very bad evenings up til about midnight recently, not sure why but it seems to be related to wind and the inability too poo so I dont know what I can do about it. For once both kids are asleep at the same time altho baby will be up any minute. He is getting harder to settle (slight pause to feed the baby who just woke up screaming, daddys got him now) for naps as well as at night except for in his sling. He seems to need a lot of peace which doesnt happen much in our house. The bonding is a lot better now though, it helps that he has started smiling at me at long last. Still feel like I am getting it all wrong this time around when it comes to sleep whicih scares me as ds1 who is 2 is still a terrible sleeper. How does everyone else go about geting babies into routines and such like as I have no idea what to do. Currently he is hard to settle but will have at least one, normally 2 really long sleeps (2-3 hours) in the day and quite long awake times but I worry this is not the way its meant to be.
How come its so difficult knowing the right thing to do with children? Surley it should all be simpler than this
Oh I have an occasional drink and dont worry about it (Just a tiny glass of wine or a small glass of beer but prob a couple of times a week) And my diet is terrible, I am managing to eat a healthy dinner most nights but during the day I snack all the time, I cannot get enough choc and cake and toast with loads of butter on. I dont worry too much though as I am starving and need the energy boost. It is so hard to get up in the morning sometimes with ds1 when I have only just got ds2 back to sleep after he has been up since 5.
Sorry for the waffly me me me post. Will try better next time

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Catsycat · 17/06/2012 20:35

Hi goodname. Have you tried the Infacol / Gripe Water type things? Infacol has definitely helped settle Z after feeds. Not sure it would help if your baby is properly constipated though. If constipation is an issue, I'd bring it up with the HV or GP - they might be able to help. I'm glad the bonding is better. It's lovely when they smile isn't it? Z has a cute, slightly cheeky little smile, which has been showing itself more the last week or so :).

As far as routines go, TBH we were really lucky with DD1 in that she found her own acceptable routine herself, and just kind of fell into it. With DD2, it was similar, but I guess we "helped" her along a bit, which I will try to do with Z as well - basically by offering feeds earlier / trying to very gradually do them later, so she eventually is feeding (and consequently sleeping) to fit in with the rest of the family's routines. Hoping it will work this time! I'm not generally very routine oriented, and certainly have never used any books etc to get into a routine (though some of my RL friends swear by she who can't be named's books) but can see it does help when you have more than one child. It's hard as well because there seems to be such a split between the idea of a routine, and the idea of everything being baby led, so you get quite conflicting advice depending on where you look. If you are getting him down for a couple of really long sleeps most days, then it sounds to me like you're doing pretty well actually, as it's still early days. I would tend not to worry so much about how it's "meant" to be, but focus on what is acceptable to you. I'm sure you aren't getting it wrong - sounds like you are just doing the best you can under the circumstances, like the rest of us :).

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LittleSarah · 17/06/2012 20:52

Goodname - No routine forming here yet either! Finlay also has yet to fall asleep on his own and sleeps for longest when in the sling. With the other two they did tend to fall into their own natural routine over time, with some gentle nudging, so I am still hoping for that this time. Think I need to try and pop him in moses basket once he has fallen asleep at least but so far when I have done so he wakes up within in ten minutes. If held or in sling he'll sleep for ages. He is still young though so not too concerned yet but hopefully in another month things will have more of a pattern. Sure they will for you too! They are all so different though aren't they? Glad bonding is better. Finn has given us a few smiles but not many.

Need more advice today. These wrap slings! How to use. I have been using mine quite a bit but often need to rewrap as ds too high on my body and after an hour or two it loosens off and have to retie or is dangerous. Really want that ergo now!

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MrsHoarder · 17/06/2012 21:01

Goodname I am in awe of your toastmaking! During the day I eat the sandwich DH leaves me and everything else is eaten straight from the cupboard. But DS is a poor daytime sleeper: he will often only nap on me during the day. Hopefully this will improve as his nighttime sleeping is.

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goodname · 18/06/2012 09:25

Oh dear mrshoarder, that sounds like my last baby. DS1 was terrible which is why I am so scared of not getting it right this time round. As I speak however he has just gone to sleep in his vibrating chair on his own. I only put him in to get ds1 dressed and off he went when I wasnt looking! They are so contrary. I would reccomend a sling btw as you can make your toast while they sleep on you. The ergo is amazing. Finn can go from screaming to sleep in moments in it. Sadly its been too wet to get out in it for a few days here and for some reason he likes to be outside to get to sleep, he will stay asleep when I come in though. He even slaept through a three course lunch with coffe in a restaurant for our anniversery and slept while I ran around a play barn (including going down the slide) with ds1. Its a lifesaver.
LittleSarah, just buy the ergo, its great and if you buy it on ebay you can sellit for what you bought it for later anyway :)
catsy I tried infacol with ds1 but it made him projectile vomit so I ama bit scared to try it again, will prob give it a go though as I up for trying anything once.
totasky You asked earlier if anyone had used an amby hammock and I had one for ds1 as I tried anything to get him to sleep. Actually it was the only bed he has ever slept on his own in and it def did help him to sleep. What was esp good was if he started wriggling in the night it sort of rocked him back to sleep on his own. DS2 does not seem so keen on it as they are polar opposites in what they like so its just a matter of luck I guess.
Hows everyone getting on with their DHs back at work now? I am feeling organised today as my dad took ds2 and got hime to sleep yesterday afternoon and DS2 and DH went to playbarn place so I cleaned out my fridge and freezer, then packed it with my tesco delivery and made dinner for the next couple of nights. No doubt house will be in total chaos by the time DH comes home tonight tho.

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ballroompink · 18/06/2012 13:10

So yesterday marked five weeks since S was born and I woke up with cramps that felt exactly like period pain. During the day I also had a bit of bright red spotting, but not a significant amount. Today the cramps are still persisting and have had a bit more red spotting this morning. Slightly confused as to what could be happening - am exclusively breastfeeding, have no other concerning symptoms etc...anyone else experienced this?

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cupcakefairy · 18/06/2012 16:56

Back for proper post soon but wanted to say ballroom I got my period just 5 or 6 weeks after having ds1 even though I was breastfeeding constantly.. I then got them back regularly every month but could tell from my charts that they were annovulatory cycles.. I would say no need to worry yet as prob just your period and will take a couple of months to settle back to how it was before (ie not just spotting) but ask doc at your 6 week check if you're worried.

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Catsycat · 18/06/2012 17:28

LittleSarah I tried to use my Close carrier last week - put Z in it, and she just started screaming until I took her out of it! I think I was doing it right, but will have to try it with DH there and see. He put her in the Babasling yesterday while we had lunch, and she seemed to like that (but I can't use that sling as it hurts my back!). Haven't even dared try the Wilkinet yet - potential to straitjacket myself in it seems too great!

Tostaky we have an Amby that we used for DD1 and DD2. It is lovely. It rocks with the baby's own movements, and you can also gently bounce and rock it to soothe the baby. It also looks really nice (we had the neutral colour one). DD1 loved it, but DD2 didn't so much - she kind of looked a bit cramped in it, and used to squirm and grumble a bit getting herself comfortable, which DD1 never did. Once she moved to the cotbed at 6 months she used to drop straight to sleep! Because we were told from the scans that Z would be quite a big baby, like DD2, we bought a crib instead this time. We have the Amby in the loft though, in case of emergency. It's another thing you can get from eBay and make all your money back on later, btw (well, at least I hope so!).

ballroom my periods started after about 7 weeks after DD1, even though I was exclusively expressing. With DD2, I breastfed in the normal way (not expressing), and had no periods till I stopped breastfeeding at 6 months. I wonder if it is just bad luck and AF has returned already, a bit lighter and spottier because there's not much there so soon after having the baby?? Alternatively, it could be a sign you have been over exerting, which I have also had with each baby, but this never had cramps with it. Last option I can think of is an infection, but not sure there are usually cramps with this.... However, I know nothing being qualified only in the Google medical college :) Best option is to run it past your GP or HV. def mention it at your 6 week check if not before.

MrsHoarder how lovely that your DH leaves you a sandwich! That's so nice! I also eat from the cupboard quite regularly when DH is away!! Am really trying not to though.

goodname Z sleeps really well when we're out too. Not sure what it is, but the HV recommended taking her outside to calm her if she's hard to settle. It has been horrid weather though, so difficult to do as often as I might like. maybe a good thing, or I might turn into one of those 1950s mums who leaves the baby down the bottom of the garden in the pram!!!! Grin

Had a pretty good day so far. Took the DDs to their swimming lesson (I didn't actually go in the pool, just sat at the side to watch the lessons) - drove the car for the first time in 4 weeks, managed to get there on time and not crash Grin. Hoovered, emptied the bins, and changed the cat litter box before we went out, and bathed Z (well, the HV was coming round Wink !!!). Dealt with the HV while giving the older DDs lunch and feeding the baby. Let the DDs watch The Gruffalo while I had a bit of a lie down on the sofa. Z has had a couple of nice long sleeps (one this morning and one this afternoon). Hoping I won't be getting a sleepless night as payback for a good day, and that I can wrangle everyone through their tea and baths later... may also attempt the washing if all goes really well!!!

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tostaky · 18/06/2012 20:08

Hi all!
Last 2-3 days have been non-stop crying... I'm exhausted... I bought some in facial and colief, tried them and they didn't work. Not surprised as I tried them with DS1 and they did nothing...
Gave him some gaviscon and that seemed to help a little bit... Or is it the combination of everything..?

Sling - currently making lots of use of my moby wrap (stretchy). Waiting til he has better support to use my mei-tai and the baby bjorn.
I'd love an ergo but can't justify another sling really!! Plus I'm quite happy with my moby and mei-tai.

I've decided against the ambi, not too sure it will really be worthy and anyway we don't have the space... Would be nice to be able to try though...

Question about baby poo... Baby is pooing little lumps of yellow-greenish poo. Is that normal? It used to be jut watery orange-yellow poo.. Will ask HV tomorrow as she's coming around lunchtime. Just wondering whether he could be constipated?

Need to go, will post later

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cupcakefairy · 18/06/2012 22:06

Hello again :)
Seb went to sleep at 7.30 tonight and so far hasn't woken...first peaceful dinnertime in a while!! I'm very much hoping we're over the trapped wind/painful cries all evening phase...fingers crossed!

Liking all the sling talk..I still love my Close sling..Seb has gone straight to sleep in it from screaming a few times and ds1 was the same I call it a miracle sling...hope it works if you try it again catsy! goodname I'm so impressed at your ds2 staying asleep while you run around playing with ds1! (And also impressed you have the energy!!)

catsy Shock at your dd emptying oil onto the carpet I think I would cry! Hope she learnt her lesson from getting all her teddies confiscated! Grin Massive respect on you coping with dh being away...mine has after work commitments 2 nights this week and I'm dreading that enough!!

tostaky glad ds3 got some relief from the gaviscon, or whatever it was.. hope it continues.

Re weight loss I am a firm believer in stuffing one's face with cake during first few months of breastfeeding Grin I certainly have been anyway!! Didn't start dieting til ds1 was 4 months old and don't intend to this time either.. what's ace is that I was a bridesmaid for my older sister 9 months after having ds1 so was a great incentive for weight loss...and this time I'm bridesmaid to my little sister next summer so get the same incentive again, yay! Grin look forward to sharing weight loss tips and woes together in a few months!

Been an interesting day chez cupcake.. a friend came over who also has a 2yo and a newborn, and all 4 kids ended up having meltdowns Confused our 2 toddlers both kept screaming and crying arguing over the toys and my ds got himself so worked up he threw up all over the sofa ShockShock which is v unusual for him. Dear me...we had to laugh about it all but am a bit frazzled after that!!

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cupcakefairy · 18/06/2012 22:07

Ooh tostaky forgot to say re poo- I was told greenish poo is indicative of trapped wind... ds1 used to get it every now and then and we've had it once so far with ds2...but yes worth mentioning to hv definitely.

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Catsycat · 18/06/2012 23:07

Glad to hear you had some peace and quiet cupcake! Hope it lasts for you. I'll definitely try the Close sling again, as I could use the hands-free aspect! I also couldn't believe DD2 and the baby oil - was too Angry to cry at the time though!! Hope it all goes OK when DH is late home - it's been fine today here, long may it continue!

tostaky no idea on the poo, apart from it does sound unusual... could explain the crying though if it means wind / constipation, so would get it checked out.

Managed to get tea for the DDs and get them into the bath before feeding Z, fed her while they were in the bath, then again once they got out. She has been asleep since about 9pm. Time to get ready for bed, feed the cats, unpack the dishwasher, nice up of tea, then get her changed and fed, and into bed for a nice 6 hour sleep.... .

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Catsycat · 18/06/2012 23:07

a cup of tea, obviously...

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tostaky · 19/06/2012 01:53

Not "in facial" but "infacol" Grin of course!

So green poo = trapped wind? So that's colic, yes? I will talk about it to the HV and then I will talk about it with Gp ... It is so heartbreaking to see babies crying in pain..

Speaking of which, when do they stop being newborns and start being just plain babies... After a month? When they get good head support?

I'm so impressed at you lot, caring for NB + sibling AND running a household (
Laundry, cooking..) I have to admit I have a nanny to help me 3 evening a week and both DS1 and DS2 go to nursery 3 days a week Blush I would go mad otherwise!!!! Hats off you.

Re-baby poo again. Seems like he has stopped poing at night already... Same with yours? Or could it be the justification?

Re-weight loss. I'm going on hols on the 1st of sept so I really need to be somewhat comfortable wearing a swimsuit in public...Blush will happily exchange tips and woes with you all. Have been hiding my scales since mid-pregnancy, need to dig them out.

Right baby's finished feeding and back to sleep so zzz for me too!!

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Catsycat · 19/06/2012 11:24

Well, turns out my little fantasy re. last night wasn't too far off - I was out on the sleep by about 2 hours, but amazing how perky I feel on just 4 hours!! :) Can't believe how well this is all going..... worried it's going to come crashing down round my ears later Grin Got the DDs to nursery a bit late (10am), but had to feed Z a bit unexpectedly mid-getting ready, then had an unexpected phone call just before I put them all in the car. Guess if it had been more pressing to get out, Z could have done without her wash till later, could have ignored the screaming a bit longer :( and ignored the phone! Have since taken in and unpacked the Tesco order I did last night, found DD2's lost hairband (behind the shed Hmm), and sorted 2 massive baskets of washing, 1st load now in the machine. Hoping to make the most of some sunshine to hang it out in the garden to dry.

I have to go out again at 12.30 to pick DD1 up from nursery, as she has her first visit to her new school this afternoon. Hope she will enjoy it - she's generally fairly sociable and sensible, so I'm thinking the "I'm scared!" comments this morning will not last once she gets there! She doesn't know any of the other children, but I think there are only 7 in total in her year group (very small rural first school!).

tostaky there seems to be a bit less night time poo here, though can be variable - would say there is a general trend toward it lessening. There wasn't much last night, and now I've just heard a horrible rumbling / gushing sound from the moses basket, but am too scared to look (she's asleep, and I'm enjoying the peace)!!! I can't remember when DD1 and DD2 stopped pooing at night. I think Z is still a newborn, though she's 4 weeks old and now too big for most of her newborn clothes (10lb 2oz yesterday), she still looks newborn in her face, the way she holds her body iyswim. Fair play to you with the nanny /nursery - why not, if it makes your life easier and gives you a bit of a break! I'm similar, in that DD1 goes to nursery 3 days a week, DD2 goes two days, and I have a cleaner at the moment (sadly not permanent!). HV and OT have both suggested I get Home Start to help out too, though I'm not sure really (partly because I don't know what to ask them to do to help).

Re. weight loss... have just taken delivery of cream cakes in the tesco order - don't think they will last the day...

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LittleSarah · 19/06/2012 14:25

I do love the moby sling when it works (as in when I have tied it correctly) as Finn loves it in there and snuggles up and falls asleep every time. I wear it most days. Just wish was better at using it! Going to check for ebay deals on ergos....

Bad night last night again. Urgh. Three hour wakeful period from about 1am to 4am, lots of feeding with crying in between and some dozing but you know, 30-40 mins. Have managed to get him to take dummy now and then, as always wants to suckle, but it doesn't always help. Hardly at all last night. As things have been ok recently I had no white noise primed, or even a Radio 4 radio play for me. Might suggest dh sleeps downstairs tonight just in case. It is sad being alone but I kept feeling guilty not being able to get ds to sleep as I knew dh had to get up extra early. Sad

He has been no problem today! Long nap in arms/sling this morning, now asleep in car seat, can't get him to sleep for long in moses basket but I am trying...

Right must tidy living room. Feel like collapsing on sofa.

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cupcakefairy · 19/06/2012 17:36

sarah have u tried putting him on his tummy in Moses basket? I know it's a contentious issue but for nap times I do with Seb as he sleeps sooo much more soundly & obviously I can keep an eye on him.

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