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LittleMissFlustered · 09/05/2012 06:21

Brew anyone?

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KateM77 · 14/05/2012 20:50

Northern She's doing OK thanks. She was really shocked and upset but bounced back quickly. The bruises don't look too bad and I'm hoping she won't look like a battered child come tomorrow morning when I take her to nursery!

YBR I hope the return to work went well and that being met at the station continues.

Our house is a potential danger zone too. Lots of steps to different levels, big inglenook fireplace, very solid furniture, big TV etc. etc. We were very lucky with DD that we didn't need to childproof because she didn't crawl, just bum-shuffled (slowly) from 11 months onwards, and then didn't walk unaided until 16 months by which point she was old enough to understand dangers and didn't touch things we told her not to touch, and wouldn't launch herself at steps. I somehow think it'll be a very different story with DS

aethelfleda · 14/05/2012 21:08

Arg, post eaten!

honey, have you considered a Babydan ?They can he used as room dividers or big hexagonal playpens and are great for tricky-to-babyproof rooms. They also sell a stove-guard version...here

OiMissus · 14/05/2012 21:18

I have not exploded! However, BOi almost drowned when I went to pick him up.Blush
I didn't know what CC was dsm, and now the others have explained, I am shocked. I don't know what I would have done. I think it's neglect. It's cruel. It would have upset me. It used to break my heart to hear my next door neighbour's baby scream for hours. Don't like it at all. -of course there are times when you have to let them cry for a short while, and if a mum is very stressed and frustrated, then it is also permissible if the mum fears she may react in her frustration. But on the whole, I don't like it!
Good day at work today, finally crossed paths with my boss who said it was absolutely fine that I'd booked Friday's nursery for just the half day. I have the official green light!
I also should have been in Germany on Wednesday, but he forgot to send me the year's schedule. Hee hee hee! So instead I'm working from home and going to see a house at 11. Pleeeeeeze let this one be the one ( very hopeful!) and pleeeeeeze let the sellers actually really want to sell the bloody thing and for at least 5% less than the asking price!.

Figgygal · 14/05/2012 21:38

Argh post eaten!!

But in a nutshell my house is already skunk proofed with gates and door latches, any ideas what I can do about hard wood floors ??

GeeandTee · 14/05/2012 22:02

We have hard wood floors and you can get some squishy mats that you put together like a jigsaw, either have numbers of letters on them. Sorry not a great explanation! Maybe if you google alphabet mats?! Cost £4.99 a pack in Sainsburys and I think Poundstretcher and other shops like that do them too. They're very easy to move around/clean. Only problem is that most babies end up puLling them apart at some stage!

You can also get baby leg warmers (yes, really!) Like long socks without feet to protect bare legs when crawling. I've never used them but some people swear by them.

Or buy a cheap rug! Ours cost £50 from Next.

GeeandTee · 14/05/2012 22:03

...Numbers or letters...

AnAirOfHope · 14/05/2012 22:23

Dh is doing his imprssion of switzerland.

Figgygal · 14/05/2012 22:41

gee thanks for the tip I will check out those mats the king size winter duvet that is sprawled across the living room at the moment cant stay there forever.

OiMissus · 14/05/2012 22:42

Well I bloody hope it involves St Bernards dogs bearing barrels of brandy, and dripping in gold! Grin (((hugs)))

plutocrap · 14/05/2012 23:40

Hi, all!

Yes, unhelpful fathers seemed a really big part of the stuff I had to catch up on after Easter, so I just want to say that I don't know anyone from my first antenatal group who didn't have some kind of relationship difficulties in the first year after the new baby. I think it all comes down to independence and dependence. Having carried these babies for so long, a very intense experience no matter how easy the pregnancy, we are just more aware of how dependent" these little creatures are, and there just can't be any "independence" in the face of that. Fathers, by contrast, haven't had the physical/mental conditioning of pregnancy (nor the postnatal hormones), so don't quite get "dependence" so much, which is why* they really need to learn some new reflexes: if I want a drink after work, who will pick up the child (not have that be the default responsibility of the mother)? who's getting up in the night/morning? and even if the baby mostly depends on its mother, whom can the mother/older child depend on? I don't think DH "got" parenthood at all until he spent three months out of work when DS was little, and even then he kept trying to wriggle out of it, saying he had "to prepare for interviews"; he also kept telling people - in front of me - that he was looking forward to going back to work "so I can have a rest". He also became a really annoying know-it-all about what "we" (I) should be doing. However, something stuck, and now we have both taken DS away on holiday without the other, and just recently he said that in a way it would be a good time for him to lose his job, because he could get to know DD, and she him, by having the time together while she is small. It seems to have struck him hard that the children are the first thing we ought to think of when making plans and saving/spending. Maybe it was the lack of control he felt when being out of work, and it's really sad to think it might only have been being humbled that did it. Perhaps becoming a mother, with all the fear and crisis of labour, then the soreness and sleep deprivation Wink is our equivalent of being humbled?

Speaking of unhelful fathers, this going back a bit, to Easter, when I fell off the thread, but my father was getting on my nerves with his rosy "recollections" (rosy-arsed collecions of nonsense, more like) of our childhood. Strangely, I wasn't flattered to be remembered as an angel by someone I know didn't do a lot of child-rearing till I was older, as how would he know? He was quite good later: he would take my brother and me camping for weeks at a time, and seems to be planning to do the same with my DC, but this translates into taking DS camping on his own when he's 7 (tho' my father's already 73, so I'm a bit dubious about that... and DD is probably too young to ever benefit Sad). It's as though he is ignoring them till then, though Confused - a bit risky at his time of life, and bloody annoying when he piously repeats the doublethink of both "I'm not going to interfere" and "A grandfather's work is never done" (in his case, it is never even started! Grin).

Sorry about that rant. Anyway, re the extensive discussions about sleep regression, I can definitely confirm that it is not exclusively a boy thing, oh, no. Until she was about 2 months, DD was give me stretches of 9pm to 5am, and I was really with it. However, that's not been working so well ever since, and we regularly have her "gribble" in the daytime as she's refused to sleep, or OR two-hour crying sessions in the middle of the night, because she's tanked herself up, and now is trying to poo it all out, and getting immensely frustrated! She's currently slamming her legs against the cot springs, no doubt trying to make herself poo (see her posts on Babiesnet passim).

How are those of you back at work feeling? And those at home? At the risk of sounding sententious (again; I'm aware of how pompous some of that stuff above about unhelful fathers, sounded), apparently one of the big recent events in US feminism was the "Mommy Wars", which seems to have consisted of women's having massive goes at one another over the effects of being a WOHM/SAHM on children, yet little mention of... again, yes,... unhelful fathers (or any fathers, for that matter. if I were a helpful father, I'd be insulted by that).

Poor boy, seven, can you sign and draw on and put stickers on his cast? Smile Bet he's being brave for his DSis!

Lots of travelling about with the littluns! How are they all liking it? Are they still hypnotised by motion, or only above a certain speed, as a friend of mine once, annoyingly, found with his DS?

What a pity travelling actually brings one to place where one then gets stuck: that was a very shite-sounding trip, NorthernChinchilla*!

DD not taking a bottle either - and after I had opened one of my own! Oops! Blush Bacchic baby alert (well, she has got a Classical name)!

Haddocks to headaches, LMF! Speaking of pains, what about your back. DSM?

Impressed with the crawling. Not even rolling here! She loves to be held. Smile

Had a really lovely playdate today, with "clicks" for DS and the same-aged boy, other Mum and me... and the two babies seemed to tolerate one another, too! Smile

Sorry I have missed our loads of stuff and people and subjects. Trying to follow the FB group is a bit easier, as "a picture is worth a thousand words" - and can therefore be "read" more quickly! Grin

Laying out Brew Brew Brew Brew Brew for the night shift...

plutocrap · 14/05/2012 23:46

x-posts!

Good luck with the house, Oi!

WE have foam jigsaw things, too; they are particularly good as a floor covering as you can put them together to go round furniture. A travel cot can also be a really great playpen, and convert later to a ball pit (really good fun during a toddler party - they don't even realise they're being confined!).

AnAir, I take it you don't mean yodelling... Sad

MimsyBorogroves · 15/05/2012 00:48

I have an old duvet with a bright cover on it on our hardwood floor. Makes a great playmat when covered in a billion toys.

Grr. Not only did DH keep me up for an hour whilst he popped downstairs to make his lunch for tomorrow and get distracted by his phone as sodding usual he is now snoring his head off. DS has fed 3 times in the last 3 hours. Guess I'm getting no sleep tonight.

LittleMissFlustered · 15/05/2012 03:38

Brace yourselves:

7 hours! 20:30 - 03:30

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aethelfleda · 15/05/2012 04:24

Hooray lmf!

Back to two-three hourly here, but he had his jans today sobeas kinda expecting it. , Banbury and so on.....

hawthers · 15/05/2012 05:18

Erm 8 to 5 .....

Wtf happened to make that happen I have no idea so unfortunately don't know how to repeat - arse

Figgygal · 15/05/2012 09:02

Well DS didn't sleep from 1-6 yesterday afternoon so when he did sleep it was until almost 7.30 which is almost bed time so stayed up til 9 slept to 2 then bottle and back down to 7. He is back asleep again now so time for dishes, bottles etc

Meeting baby group mums and babies for coffee this am then pm need to email work with a counter proposal about my accrued leave before returning to work. I don't want to take all of it and policy or not legally they can't force me so going to go in nicely (first) and see where it gets me.

Wow plu that was epic!!

mopsytop · 15/05/2012 09:16

Welcome back plu, epic post as ever!!!

Golly, CC on a 4-week old? The poor wee baba :(

Minimopsy only woke up once an hr last night instead of once every half hr, so quite an improvement. Supposed to be going to babygroup at 10 but I feel soooo rough - think might be coming down w sth :(

AWomanCalledHorse · 15/05/2012 09:51

DS did 1930-2330 & then decided to wake up every hour by throwing his dummy out. DH is banbury, but I slept through most of it Grin.

Hello again plu!

OiMissus · 15/05/2012 10:08

I just "won" a door bouncy thing on ebay for 99p (plus £5 postage). I started at Amazon, then thought, no I shall be canny, like everyone else, and peruse the shelves of ebay. Grin
Now I just have to stop myself looking at other stuff...

plutocrap · 15/05/2012 10:17

Banbury will have to be our code word for future "blind" meetups dates. It evokes a rather genteel sort of espionage, not the vulgar underpants-bombing de nos jours. Tsch.

Well done, babies! LMF, I think you said you weren't weaning till 6m, so doesn't that sleep make rather a nonsense of this "feed them up sothey sleep through" old chestnut?!

Ooops, got to go. DD is plucking at me, to tell me she has been engaging in her own underpants-bombing (really? I hadn't noticed) .

Good luck with ypur proposal, figgygal!

KateM77 · 15/05/2012 10:20

8pm-7am Shock Shame DD randomly woke at 5.30

Plu just wow at that post!

We've got wood or tiled floors everywhere too and have rugs in the lounge and playroom. I did the travel cot ball pit in the kitchen for DD too, so I think that may make a re-appearance although at the moment DS is happily sitting in his walker in the kitchen

KateM77 · 15/05/2012 10:25

oh and plu I'm not weaning yet either!

Been to GP and DS' ears are fine so it seems he may have just decided he doesn't like swimming, We'll see how tomorrow goes...

plutocrap · 15/05/2012 10:29

Oh. She wanted more of a feed. Muck-bottomed little terrorist....

Re the babyproofng disussion, I can really recommend Jojo Maman Bebe and Safe Tots. The latter is particularly good for stairgates; they introduced me to the "Y spindle", which goes around the newel post/staircase spindle, so no drilling/screwing. They also do extra narrow gates (good for Victorian houses), wihch you can extend later, e.g. when moving house (Oi). Both v good customer service (no, I don't work for either! Wink)

Rashkakeller · 15/05/2012 10:49

Wow crawling, rolling commando babies! Crikey, ds is so laid back that he literally just lies back! No, I'm doing him a disservice, he can roll on to his side and back shuffle across the floor and 360 degree stylee. Ok ds, you can stop hitting me round the head now!

He slept through 7.20pm-7.00am after 2 nights of one 3/4am wake up. No rhyme nor reason and we're not weaning either. Going to try a bit of food, week after next when we're back from our holibobs.

Can't remember what I've just read...

Anyhoo, it was dd's 3rd birthday yesterday and we all had a great day and dd loved it. After I had read her bedtime stories and was saying goodnight, she said "thank you for a lovely birthday, mummy". Aw, I nearly blubbed... She is such a lovely daughter, very sweet most of the time

She has her party on Sunday so not over yet!

This week:

Tots splashtime, grocery shopping and bit of housework today
Loads of housework, clothes washing and ironing tomorrow
Stuff with friends and kids on Thursday
Housework and packing for holiday on Friday
Maia has a party on Saturday, we all might be going to a BBQ Saturday afternoon then her own party so bob knows when I'll finish the packing etc!!

Hope everyone has good days/weeks

DeterminedandSpecialMum · 15/05/2012 10:51

Epic post as always. My back has been very sore lately Sad top of my spine is a killer too, but never mind.

Sky slept 8:30 to 4:30 - 4:45 to 6:20am.

Missed swimming this morning, due to Sky having a bottle and me having AF visiting. Off to sensory class then work after for lunch, meeting & general chit chat - and to discuss me going back to work in Oct!

Oi Well done on your bargain door bouncer Grin