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April 2012 newborns: the insomnia continues...

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LaTristesse · 07/04/2012 10:55

Hello fellow April mums. Following on from our lovely ante-natal threads, here's the first of the post-natal ones. Join us as we work out how to handle nappies, feeding, colic, crying and all things newborn, or just to celebrate the joys of a new baby!

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spannermary · 18/05/2012 13:04

Wow - Fliss - that's impressive! Tea, I tend to pre-rub with a vanish stick and then hope for the best. It's usually ok if the wash happens soon-ish, but if the stain dries on then it can be a bit more tricky. By the way, your name makes me so hungry!!

LaTristesse · 18/05/2012 13:15

I started a thread about the stains a while back as I was a bit gutted that all DDs sweet little outfits were tinged yellow! Best replies that worked for us were soaking in Napisan, available in Morrisons baby aisle among others, line dry in sunlight, don't tumble dry if still stained as this sets the stain apparently. Hey ho, stains gone!

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Bearcrumble · 18/05/2012 14:32

I use vanish (the white one) and soak them for a few hours before washing them on a regular cycle with a pre-wash also with vanish in. Obviously only for light coloured baby clothes.

My DD is out of newborn clothes and into 1m - I feel a bit lump-in-throat-ish that I'll never have cause to use them again. Going to put the first thing she ever wore into a keepsake box with her scans and hospital writstband because I am a soppy old moo.

Thaleia I'm sorry you are having such a tough time. Please don't beat yourself up about it. He will poo eventually, you haven't damaged him with a little bit of formula but if you can and you want to BF exclusively then I'm sure that with all the tips from bushy (and local breastfeeding supporters - Breastfeeding cafe, La Leche, NCT?) you'll get there.

Tea - Congrats and welcome. Well done for getting him home so soon. So he's only 35 weeks now? You have done really well. My DS (now a shouty toddler) was born at 35 weeks and had to spend 2 weeks in SCBU. He weighed 4lb 5oz at birth. I remember when we got him home we took him to the GPs after a couple of nights because he was so snuffly and noisy we thought something was wrong with him but apparantly preemies are noisy sleepers. He was also quite a vomity baby until he was 6 or 7 months. Not huge projectiles - just stealthy mouthfuls of cheese over every new change of clothes after about 5 mins of having them on.

DD is doing well. Touch wood I've been really lucky and had no probs BFing. She still shits constantly - periods of wakefulness are getting longer and she's started smiling (big gummy beams) which is heart-melting and wonderful. We had a good night last night and my mum is having DS today so I've had time to sit down and catch up on here whilst she naps in her pram.

Had a bit of a disastrous excursion across town yesterday morning. Took both of them on my own on the train (DS in mclaren, DD in Ergo) to the Museum of Childhood where I'd booked him in for some session for under-5s. Parked buggy in the lobby, still got baby in baby carrier, stifling hot but looking round the museum is going well until the time comes when we have to go downstairs for our session. He doesn't want to leave so he decides to lay on his back on the floor and not move. I finally coax him into the room and he starts playing with the toys while the woman introduces what they're going to do. When she finishes he decides to leave. Just walks out and refuses to come back. I chase him (with baby) but all our bags and coats and baby carrier is in room. Have to get someone to watch him while I go back for them then get someone to hold baby while I go for a wee and get his pushchair. I didn't take any lunch and he's begging sandwiches from other people (I bought him a cheese sandwich but he simply took it apart and looked at it and then continued to harrass the nice lady who was holding the baby for more of hers). I was hot and bothered and mortified - everyone was so nice and helpful but I felt totally out of my depth and like a newbie idiot. Not being able to just pick him up as I had baby strapped to me made me realise that a time will come when he's too big to just pick up and take somewhere if he's refusing, so I need to work on my diplomacy and persuasion rather than relying on me being bigger than him and him being portable. The walk from the station to the museum was half an hour each way - the baby got inconsolable on the train on the way home so had to take her out of Ergo and cuddle her and get it back on again without any help before our station. It was a difficult morning. Luckily DS slept on the way home.

I think I need that double buggy sooner rather than later.

TeaandHobnobs · 18/05/2012 14:47

Oh Bear, you have really put my mind at ease - we have been worrying today about the snuffling / grunting / odd noises, and the vomit that does indeed appear just after I have put a new babygro on him!
Thank you! Thanks Sorry you had such a tough day yesterday Sad

Bunsouttheoven · 18/05/2012 15:23

Sunlight (if we ever get any) works miracles on yellow poo stains better than any stain remover stuff.

newmummyvicky · 18/05/2012 15:53

Welcome tea to our thread, and congrats on your baby :)

Lyra is gaining weight well she is up 9.2 was 6.5 at birth 6 weeks ago. I had my six week check at the doctors and the doctor only checked my b/p, not down below or tummy and checked over mainly Lyra. Is this right?

Im still breast feeding. I'm gonna book an apointment with a nct feeding councilor, to check latch on because nipples are still sore somedays. I met another breast feeding mum at weight in, she watch me and said im getting ticking, this is bad and means the is milk is hitting the roof of mouth giving them wind.

She Cry's with wind when feeding does anyone else have this?????
My health Visitor suggested Infalcol so been trying it for 3 days not sure if its made a difference?

I made a mistake this morning with feeding. I pumped of 150ml from one side at 5am, and when baby woke at 530 she took all of one side and wanted the other one. This side was empty, and she was still hungry. I had to get 50ml expressed bottle from the day before. Luckily she had that and when back to sleep. She slept from 10pm-530am the longest time so far. I'm trying to get her in her crib at 10ish most nights.

I did post a few days ago's but my phone deleted it! Doh!

Flisspaps · 18/05/2012 16:09

vicky yes, sounds right for 6wk check!

Don't worry about one side being 'empty' either - you can't actually empty a breast as they continually make milk Smile

Good idea about seeing a BF counsellor if you're still sore though. Not heard that about milk hitting the roof of the mouth though. DS 'clicks' sometimes but a quick adjustment stops that. No advice on wind, DS just farts all of his out!

marshmallowpies · 18/05/2012 16:39

Welcome tea & your little one who got here a bit early! I am soaking stained clothes in Vanish & hot water, seems to be fine so far. Also had a lot of blood to get out of a babygro when the cord stump came off (well it SEEMED like a lot at the time...).

Bear you're v brave taking 2 kids all that way! I took my nephew to the museum of childhood when he was about 4 and can remember a similar dispute about lunch - we'd bought him a sandwich & a chocolate biscuit, and he finished half the sandwich and said he was full. I said 'No room for your biscuit then?' & he thought for a minute and said 'I have just enough space left in my tummy for a biscuit'. Grin

I am frantically trying to express 60ml in the next hour or so, as I am going to THE PUB tonight & DH is looking after DD for two hours! I already have 50ml pumped over the last 24 hrs, just got to get a wee drop more...

Pitmountainpony · 19/05/2012 02:39

Tea.....it will stain if you just wash it...the hot water seals it in. Put cold water only oN all stains....soap...I use a laundry soap from Lakeland. It took me one baby to learn this and e Rey garment being stained.
Cold water only.

Boomerwang · 19/05/2012 03:08

I jacked in the lactulose two days ago. Now Anya poops once a day but without any obvious signs of straining. She squirms a bit when she's being fed then farts out a huge amount of poop. Very little farts and more burps now, she also sleeps longer between feeds. Going good :)

HollyPockett · 19/05/2012 11:20

I've just painted my nails! The first time in a month. A small but important thing :)

Flisspaps · 19/05/2012 11:28

Holly if only DS would go down long enough to let me do mine!

spannermary · 19/05/2012 11:32

Congrats, Holly! It's a milestone! I can't wait to shave my legs, and, er, tidy other areas. Because of the rash I've had since wk 39, I've not been able to, because of my super sensitive skin. It's awful!! I just know that the day when I can I'll feel so feminine & lovely.

Right now I feel like the world's hairiest woman...Sad

Quick question: my grandma lives in a care home, & I want to visit with Bill, but know these places are filled with infection, and babies are very vulnerable. How long would you guys wait before taking a small baby somewhere like that? I was thinking after his 1st set of jabs...

SarryB · 19/05/2012 13:19

Well, I posted on here WAY back on the 16th of April...

Dylan arrived at 4.03pm on Sunday 22nd April (my brother's birthday!), 12 hours after my waters broke, and with just ten minutes of pushing.

He'll be four weeks old tomorrow - I can hardly believe it.

I've spent most of today crying. I'm so bloody tired, and have no one to watch baby until OH gets in from work at 5pm. LO has finally gone down for a nap, after fighting it for about an hour. He really does fight sleep sometimes, and he has to be swaddled otherwise his crazy arms wake him up. Having some chocolate and a nice cup of tea just now.

Thaleia · 19/05/2012 14:11

congrats

HollyPockett · 19/05/2012 16:43

sarryb congrats! My DD was born on my brother's birthday too!

There's nothing chocolate can't fix. Try to get some shut eye too while Dylan is asleep.

HollyPockett · 19/05/2012 18:21

Can I ask you all a question about routines for you LO's? In that, do you have one? Do you bath and pj's and bed at regular times?

I can't imagine doing that with Francesca? She's quite happy with her own routine t the mo and goes four hours between night feeds anyway.. And I can't quite get my head around bathing a 3.5 week old baby daily?? I shouldn't read baby rearing books

Flisspaps · 19/05/2012 18:35

Holly DS gets pyjamas on when we remember, and goes to bed when we do at 11pm. He gets bathed if he happens to not be feeding when DD is having a bath (she has one every other night) - so far he's 5wo and has had 4 baths. We won't bother with a bedtime routine until he starts to settle down to snooze earlier on in the evening in a few months time and then he'll just be plonked into
DD's bedtime routine from 6.30 - 7pmish.

Bunsouttheoven · 19/05/2012 18:53

Holly no routine here yet, baby won't sleep on his own anyway & IMO they don't need a daily bath. I did with my dd when she was a bit older but found it aggravated her eczema (disappeared when daily baths stopped). Top & tailing at this age is fine.

I have had a pants day. Had a row with dp, we have dd's b'day party here tomorrow. Lots of tidying, shopping, food prep to be done. Also dp came home last night with a million bedding plants to plant out.

Anyway the skin above my cs scar has become red & puffy so I said I might need to see ooh dr as it might be infected. Dp rolls his eyes & says that I am making a drama out of everything. Also said nxt time we should not have a party at home. I had asked what we should do when arranging it & he had said 'dunno'. That he would have suggested another venue if he'd known I'd get this stressed. Then when I was upset at these comments he said he thinks I have post natal depression & he can't win no matter what he says.

I explained, no I do not have pnd I have:
-Not had more than a few hours sleep in a row for months.
-had a cs
-had mastitis
-had thrush in my breasts
-now have a septic scar
-have a 6 & 3 year old to look after, both of whom have been ill several times since baby was born.
-a baby who must be carried ALL the time
I could go on & on but I think that's enough to warrant feeling a bit stressed, hormonal & tired.

Jesus, men can be dim at times.

Sorry for the rant but I feel sure you lot will understand.

Flisspaps · 19/05/2012 19:23

spanner tbh I'd just go - seeing as DS is just as likely to catch something from someone in the supermarket or out and about I don't see that waiting for the first course of jabs will make much difference. It's unlikely that the residents will have one of the diseases vaccinated against and be well enough to sit in a communal area anyway.

Flisspaps · 19/05/2012 19:24

Buns I hear you. Wine ?

HollyPockett · 19/05/2012 19:49

Right. buns you poor thing. DH are rubbish sometimes aren't they. They just don't get it. They really don't. Get stuck in to the jelly and ice-cream. Oh, and the wine.

HollyPockett · 19/05/2012 19:51

And hurrah to no routines. I should not read baby rearing books. Francesca has been asleep in her Moses basket since 7pm and prop won't wake for another three hours.

Bearcrumble · 19/05/2012 22:00

No, no routine here either. And she wears sleepsuits 24 hours a day really (did put her in dress and tights for the first time today - too cute). Only bath once a week - top and tail other days. Last time, with DS, I introduced a loose routine at 6 months when we started having solids - tried to get him to have 3 naps a day and bedtime at 7ish.

Buns, I'm so sorry your DH is being so clueless and unsympathetic.

Congrats, SarryB.

Jellybellyrbest · 19/05/2012 22:14

Sarry B, Congrats. Love the name Dylan..you get days like that. It is really hard sometimes even though you love your LO (& DP/DH) dearly. Can you meet up with a friend for a walk/coffee? Sometimes when you're at your wits end at home & going out seems too daunting or exhausting it's actually a change of scenery/some company you need to feel better. Hope the chocolate helped.
Buns: really feel for you. You've had such a tough few weeks & I'm not a bit surprised you're stressed. And exhausted. A perfectly normal reaction if you ask me, even without having a baby in your arms constantly.
I cried for the first time on Wednesday: have had DC 2 picked up from school on time, dinners ready lunches made & DH dinner ready at 18.00 every day since he went back to work. Am doing all the housework (all I ever do anyway!!) and all the baby stuff. He is hel